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*** The AMD RDNA 4 Rumour Mill ***

For sure, if people want RT they're already buying nV and it'll have to massively surpass that to change their minds (as XTX is already only 2 tiers behind nV for the price in RT - just below 4070ti)

If they manage to challenge DLSS in any serious way, that'd be more likely to turn some heads (I mostly play ARK:SA, but even that should be getting proper FSR support soon and AFMF already works pretty well there IMO)

Edit: Ok so i was just looking at the combined RT perf graphs, looking at specific games that matter (i.e. CP77), it's more like 3+ tiers! (below 4070S)
 
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This is the unknown quantity of the rumours. The RT in RDNA3 is just OK until you start getting to higher settings. So AMD need to be getting a big improvement there to at least 4070Ti Super levels.

So just about 4080 for £500 is decent but not great. The obvious problem is that if this is indeed AMDs top end RDNA4, then Nvidia absolutely will shaft us on the 50x0 pricing.
 
I would so love it to be good, but native raster isn't the bar anymore (at least not to me). I rely on DLSS to get to where I want to be with my 3080 and even when I upgrade I imagine it'll still be the same. DLSS looks good and enables games to be much more graphically demanding.Native Res in so many titles is just unplayable and I like RT too, everything does look better...even if it just makes things cleaner with no lighting pop-in...but with current prices I'm looking at a 2nd hand 4080 (s if I get lucky) which I reckon I might get for £600-£650 when the new cards come out.

The only joker I can see AMD having is Sony's upscaler - if that works and it's maybe a higher clocked version of the PS5 pro card - and developers get onboard - then it could be something.
 
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