Wasn't your 5080 around that price? I thought that was a bit of a joke, but a 5070Ti at that price? Jesus...
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Wasn't your 5080 around that price? I thought that was a bit of a joke, but a 5070Ti at that price? Jesus...
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I preferred the one on the right, but only after looking at if for a while. I don't think there's much difference between left and right.
I think I prefer it being a bit sharper, but when it's in motion I probably wouldn't notice that.
Lol, you only prefer it because it's DLSST. It has obvious ghosting which would have been a major no no if it was a FSR3.1 vs DLSS argument.
For some people that may be the case, but I had £650 as my limit,..basically the same price my 3080fe my son knicked off me, so really my choise was a 5070 or a 9070/9070xt. Only having nvidia (think before that it was voodoo and 3dfx, and then zx sectrum), you tend to stick with what you know. if the 5070ti had been £100 difference only, maybe I'd still be without a card and deciding, willing myself to pay the extra £100 over my budget, but that's not the case as £750 price for a 5070ti is fantasy land atm
...the 5070ti is faster than the 9070xt, but not by much..4% with my card at 4k raster, which in itself is 16% faster than the 5070
Sapphire Radeon RX 9070 XT Nitro+ Review - Beating NVIDIA
AMD's new RDNA 4 GPUs are launching today. The Sapphire Radeon RX 9070 XT Nitro+ is a fantastic custom design with powerful cooling and whisper-quiet fans. In terms of FPS, the RX 9070 XT offers competitive performance with similarly priced NVIDIA options in both raster and ray tracing.
At ray tracing the 5070ti pulls ahead by 17%, but the 9070xt is basically the same as a 4070ti now(4% behind), and 33% ahead of the 5070 which the similarly priced card...but it also very game dependent..
Sapphire Radeon RX 9070 XT Nitro+ Review - Beating NVIDIA
AMD's new RDNA 4 GPUs are launching today. The Sapphire Radeon RX 9070 XT Nitro+ is a fantastic custom design with powerful cooling and whisper-quiet fans. In terms of FPS, the RX 9070 XT offers competitive performance with similarly priced NVIDIA options in both raster and ray tracing.
So really if going by price we really should be comparing the 9070xt to the 5070, not the 5070ti which is far more expensive...so against a 5070 the 9070XT beats it in every metric (looking at gaming frames, not how much power use etc..saving 30% power wont help if a game is unplayable at my 4k level)
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regarding upscaling, FSR4 is better than dlss3 and just behind dlss4...seeing as dlss3 was more than adequate for everyone with a nvidia card for 4000 series, upscaling is no longer going to be the reason one always goes with nvidia now. AMD have caught up
so then there's frame gen...which I've never used. Looks ok for some games from reviews on 5000 series cards, but amd have frame gen as well i believe...as said, never used it and if card is fast enough without it, wont, so that's not a massive selling point to me
and the amd card has 16gb vram compared to the 12 on the 5070 which is a massive plus point for 4k gaming
so for me, a no brainer in current times. If i was buying 6 months from now, who knows as all goes to price again...current prices and cost of difference are what counts. msrp has become meaningless
I think the fact amd had far higher stock than nvidia and the fact they sold out instantly also probably tells a better story than any forum member musing (we're good at that, keeps us occupied and entertained
) about which way people buy
think i waffle too much..I always get an Oops, seem to be a problem when i try and post and have to cut stuff
regarding upscaling, FSR4 is better than dlss3 and just behind dlss4...seeing as dlss3 was more than adequate for everyone with a nvidia card for 4000 series, upscaling is no longer going to be the reason one always goes with nvidia now. AMD have caught up
so then there's frame gen...which I've never used. Looks ok for some games from reviews on 5000 series cards, but amd have frame gen as well i believe...as said, never used it and if card is fast enough without it, wont, so that's not a massive selling point to me
and the amd card has 16gb vram compared to the 12 on the 5070 which is a massive plus point for 4k gaming
so for me, a no brainer in current times. If i was buying 6 months from now, who knows as all goes to price again...current prices and cost of difference are what counts. msrp has become meaningless
I think the fact amd had far higher stock than nvidia and the fact they sold out instantly also probably tells a better story than any forum member musing (we're good at that, keeps us occupied and entertained
) about which way people buy think i waffle too much..I always get an Oops, seem to be a problem when i try and post and have to cut stuff
yeah if they were selling for lie £800 for a nice model vs nice 9070xt £700 you might have an argument but £240 extra is just wildMine was £938.99
It feels odd to say that tbh like isn't this the way things use to be?
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How is it an amazing achievement?
It would be really odd.....if it wasnt as fast as a 7900xtx!
New releases are supposed to make improvements in price/perf or there is no point in them.
You could pick up an XTX for under £800 last year (under £700 if you got one during some Asus cashback deals). Based on that it isnt that vast an improvement at all, espeically as its lost 8gb of vram in the process.
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Nope, that's the decision I came to before I saw the answer.
Maybe you're projecting the fact that you can't be unbiased on to me.
I notice you didn't have a go a humbug for only preferring the left because it's AMD...
How is it an amazing achievement?
It would be really odd.....if it wasnt as fast as a 7900xtx!
New releases are supposed to make improvements in price/perf or there is no point in them.
You could pick up an XTX for under £800 last year (under £700 if you got one during some Asus cashback deals). Based on that it isnt that vast an improvement at all, espeically as its lost 8gb of vram in the process.
I should have clarified my point. The 9070XT only has 64CU's similar to a 7800XT but almost matches a 7900XTX which has 96CU's. The improvement in architecture is pretty good.
Even I preferred the left one before knowing the result and thought it was DLSS4. The ghosting on the right pic is not good imo so find it a bit strange that you prefer that.
Here's another shot from the same source...still prefer the one of the right?
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These stills from one game in scenes that aren't exactly the same don't really tell you much.
There are much better comparison videos that cover pretty much everything you can look out for with upscaling and across different titles.
There are much better comparison videos that cover pretty much everything you can look out for with upscaling and across different titles.
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Depends on which bit of the image I look at really, but to me the left one looks more blurry. Although I think the previous screenshot was worse in that regard.I should have clarified my point. The 9070XT only has 64CU's similar to a 7800XT but almost matches a 7900XTX which has 96CU's. The improvement in architecture is pretty good.
Even I preferred the left one before knowing the result and thought it was DLSS4. The ghosting on the right pic is not good imo so find it a bit strange that you prefer that.
Here's another shot from the same source...still prefer the one of the right?
on my first quick test my Hellhound was using about 320w on full loadfrom vid, 9070xt pulse uses 314W(my nitro chugs 351W
If new releases beat EOL pricing every generation then eventually manufacturers would be paying us to take GPUs. You have to compare launch MSRPs for apples to apples, otherwise it's disingenuous.How is it an amazing achievement?
It would be really odd.....if it wasnt as fast as a 7900xtx!
New releases are supposed to make improvements in price/perf or there is no point in them.
You could pick up an XTX for under £800 last year (under £700 if you got one during some Asus cashback deals). Based on that it isnt that vast an improvement at all, espeically as its lost 8gb of vram in the process.
7900xtx was $999 at launch, 9070xt $599.
Not really. If they can't release something that is better in price/performance than what is currently for sale, what is the point in releasing it? Especially so if what you are releasing doesnt actually beat the performance of your previous card. When that is the case, the only thing that matters is that it comes in at a lower price point than what is currently being offered.
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It's an "amazing achievement" considering the nonsense the competition is offering in terms of model-to-model uplift and price/performance. It's also impressive that they were able to a) improve power/performance materially while b) reducing compute units while c) delivering the same general performance as their previous flagship.How is it an amazing achievement?
It would be really odd.....if it wasnt as fast as a 7900xtx!
New releases are supposed to make improvements in price/perf or there is no point in them.
You could pick up an XTX for under £800 last year (under £700 if you got one during some Asus cashback deals). Based on that it isnt that vast an improvement at all, espeically as its lost 8gb of vram in the process.
amd has frame gen used it myself it was ok tbh maybe not as extreme as mfg but its still there in the settingsso then there's frame gen...which I've never used. Looks ok for some games from reviews on 5000 series cards, but amd have frame gen as well i believe...as said, never
They have released something that is better in price/perf.