Poll: ** The AMD VEGA Thread **

[TNA]

Gif of the pcper test. Frontier is not doing Tiled rasterization

Well that would certainly help with extra performance together with better drivers. If the rumour is true of a newer steeping, then RX Vega will definitely be much better at gaming than the FE.

Right, I am all pumped again!

 

[TNA]

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/6kdwea/vega_fe_doesnt_seem_to_be_doing_tiled/djld98t/

Drivers will sort out performance.

Hype! Hype!

 

[TNA]

Way to use something completely irrelevant to try and slate AMD.

+1

 

[TNA]

Because that's a good thing? You want higher prices and no innovation?

Some seem to like that company so much that they would be willing to pay more and get less performance and see AMD dead. It is bizarre. Lol

 

[TNA]

Is the rollercoaster on the way down at the moment? The pages are moving to fast to keep up

I still hold on to hope. RX Vega cannot be as bad as the FE. If so RTG are doomed until Navi comes out. They would have to sell it for £300 if they wanted my money for such performance.

If they price Vega wrong, they will lose out on a lot of sales and miss the change to improve their market share. I would rather wait another 5-6 months and buy 1080Ti performance for £400 or less from a brand new card with Volta.

 

[TNA]

so its a smaller die than the FE, must be different then, also still saying, it is faster than the FE at gaming, and also has extra goodies the FE doesn't, so im presuming, these extra goodies, are for gaming.

AMD’s Raja Koduri Confirms Vega 10 Die Size At 484mm² – RX Vega To Be Faster In Gaming Than Frontier Edition



http://wccftech.com/amds-raja-koduri-confirms-vega-10-gpu-is-484mm²-large-rx-vega-gaming-cards-july-launch-confirmed/


http://wccftech.com/amds-raja-kodur...e-rx-vega-gaming-cards-july-launch-confirmed/

Hype?

Time to hop back on the train? Lol

 

[TNA]

Freesync G-sync whatever.... that's why I won't buy a monitor that makes me stick to either AMD or Nvidia.

My point still stands releasing a card 15 months after a 1080 and only matching it's performance is pathetic imo.

But freesync is free, you are not buying into anything when you get one. It is there if you happen to have an AMD card, if not then you don't get that feature.

I have a Freesync monitor, I have no problems buying an Nvidia card if AMD fail to deliver with Vega. I do not feel locked in. But had I paid the huge premium with G-Sync, I would maybe feel locked it. Not that that is a bad thing these days with the lack of competition from AMD to be honest.

 

[TNA]

Double the TFLOPs, and 50% smaller process, 4x the VRAM that's faster than Fiji, and is 50% slower than TitanXp, and losing to its own previous engineering sample demos.

+1

This is my reaction also. But this is not a gaming card, so I am still not judging until the RX Vega cards come out.

 

[TNA]

Freesync is not really free it is just cheaper than G-Sync.

For someone like me who does not use either of the systems above, I would still have to pay the extra for the circuitry built into the monitor if I decided to get a Freesync or G-Sync monitor.

The only plus point for me is the Freesync version would be the cheaper of the two.

Not sure about that. LG for example do some really cheap decent Freesync monitors. Even if it is not free, it ain't far off it when you consider G-Sync being £200+ more. If you looked at that from a percentage point of view the difference would be huge.

I am like you though, had G-Sync, had Freesync and happy to go back to no sync.

 

[TNA]

The free in freesync doesn't refer to money but licensing.

The monitor has to support the appropriate vscaler and have appropriate firmware.

The actual physical cost of a decent freesync and gysnc screen are going to be very similar. The gsync screen might be 20-30 more at most with license and module. The difference in retail pricing is almost entirely down to market conditions. People will pay more for a gsync monitor and so that is what companies charge.


Adaptive sync is only optional, not required, so monitors can be made cheap not supporting freesync.

The actual cost of them manufacturing it is pretty much irrelevant. What it costs us paying customers is what matters.

 

[TNA]

Lol thats what i call quality gaming drivers

Bodes well for RX Vega doesn't it?

 

[TNA]

Yeah, and AMD should die (as you said before)

The guys first GPU architecture that he worked from the start is Navi, at least give him a chance until it comes out imo.

 

[TNA]

All together now

WE BELIEVE!

I thought you believed 1070 performance with the rest of the forum?

 

[TNA]

My prediction is RX Vega will trade blows (i.e. equal or marginally behind) with the GTX 1080. However, won't overclock anywhere near as well. AMD will have maxed out the clocks.

1070/1080 do not overclock well anyway and I have had both. They hit ~1900MHz out of the box; when you OC to 2100MHz you do not even get 10% extra fps...

 

[TNA]

I've tested overclocks. Whilst it doesn't scale perfectly, it does scale reasonably.

1900mhz consistent boost on a reference car isn't likely. What you may be seeing is a result of factory OCd versions of the card which have power limits increased for you already over the reference version. That would be why you don't think it isn't scaling properly because it is boosting so high. Boost clocks is as much a function of power limits as it is actually setting higher clocks.

10%+ performance is easy to get on any Pascal card and should be pushing closer to 15% over reference for clocks.

Do people really still buy reference cards unless water cooling anymore? Founders Edition is a joke; pay more for less edition card. For cards with proper coolers, you won't likely get more than 10% extra performance from an OC unless watercooling or something.

10% real performance gain is pretty good.

I can't remember there being much more room historically (Maxwell was good, that was about it). The main benefit in the past was that cards were also segmented by clock speed rather than just number of shaders (similar to CPUs now). This meant you could for example overclock certain X850 cards to X850XT PE cards, 6800 to 6800 Ultra etc..

That is if you are lucky to get 10%. Plus as I recall I would get a hell of a lot more than that on my 8800 GTS back in the day.

7950 got a lot more boost from OC then 10% did it not? At least if you was lucky with silicon anyway.

 

[TNA]

This thread is getting really silly !!!

We have not seen a gaming card yet

We therefore have not seen drivers for it yet

We really do need to wait for a proper review of the actual gaming card, anything else is irrelevant.

Testing a professional card for gaming is a bit like driving a Rolls Royce off road, totally pointless.

Its almost as good as the last thread

+1

 

[TNA]

Still 200 pages short though. More ****posts required.

I have been waiting a long time for VEGA, but I have to admit that it's not looking too promising. Looks like I might be waiting for Volta next

This is how I am feeling also. Does not bode well, but I am still hopeful, they just need to price it right.

But if not will wait for Volta. I like the idea of getting 1080Ti performance for under £400 brand new with a 2070/1170, not to mention it will run a lot cooler

 

[TNA]

Plus you've got Crossfire so you're laughing

Your comment got me laughing

 

[TNA]

This wait is killing me, and my bank balance. The longer I wait the more expensive GPU's get. I can pick up a 1070 now for £355, but what if VEGA turns out good and £400 at the end of the month... it's only a few weeks wait to see, but if I wait it's almost certain that all the 1070's will be £400+...

At this point for £400 I would be either waiting for Vega or Volta. Pascal is old news now and Volta is not far away.

 

[TNA]

@FoxEye
Less of the raging character assassinations please. Again, all i said was i didn't think the FE was vega...

Pretty sure it is Vega

Does not mean RX Vega will be that bad.