Which is an oddity as we've already seen single Vega's running Doom and Sniper Elite 4 at 60fps, 4k. This new demo doesn't make any sense, Prey has similar performance to their other demo titles.
That's what I think too. The wait is on... again.
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Which is an oddity as we've already seen single Vega's running Doom and Sniper Elite 4 at 60fps, 4k. This new demo doesn't make any sense, Prey has similar performance to their other demo titles.
That's what I think too. The wait is on... again.
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No wonder the 580 was released instead of VEGA....
LOL. You cracked me upTNA gone into hiding?
Makes me happy I went NVIDIA.
I just finished catching up with all the news. Very disappointing indeed from AMD. The least I was expecting was for them to mention all the different cards and their price points. Maybe some of their usual AMD graphs where it shows it beating the competition in best case scenarios. But they could not do this as the card is still far away...
That video of the guy just playing Prey, what the hell was that about exactly? It proved nothing and was cringeworthy to watch as it was so pointless. Don't understand why AMD marketing is so bad. They would have been better of showing nothing than showing that in my opinion.
Edit: Will update the OP with the release date and link to the presentation when I can later on.
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Yep TNA it's embarrassing how wrong AMD get these events, time and time again.
Nvidia waking this morning with massive grins knowing they've just secured the sale of another couple thousand 1080tis. I'm literally one click away from purchasing now.
Nvidia waking this morning with massive grins knowing they've just secured the sale of another couple thousand 1080tis. I'm literally one click away from purchasing now.
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It's definitely not simple a case of "not enough HBM2" or "Driver issues". It's something more serious.
In the above two instances you would still create a lot of hype surrounding your product. Hell Lisa couldn't have said less about Vega if she tried. I think they are trying to bury it.
It could be a purely financial reason. There is a LOT more money to be made from having dell in your back pocket in the CPU market than releasing a high end GPU.
Thing is, AMD have just come from a very dark place financially. And they can't come out all guns blazing on all fronts. They are clearly pouring 95% of their resources into their CPU business (sensible) and very little into the volatile GPU market.
Honest, From what I saw as a marketing perspective, Lisa effectively came on at the end and said "Sorry guys. Might as well go buy that 1080Ti now".
I mean I can run prey on ultra easy at 1080p on my 480. It takes 2 Vegas to do it at 4k? That means High end Vega is only twice as fast as my card. I'm pretty sure the 1080Ti is more than twice as fast as the 480.
Sorry guys. The nvidia milking will continue.
In the above two instances you would still create a lot of hype surrounding your product. Hell Lisa couldn't have said less about Vega if she tried. I think they are trying to bury it.
It could be a purely financial reason. There is a LOT more money to be made from having dell in your back pocket in the CPU market than releasing a high end GPU.
Thing is, AMD have just come from a very dark place financially. And they can't come out all guns blazing on all fronts. They are clearly pouring 95% of their resources into their CPU business (sensible) and very little into the volatile GPU market.
Honest, From what I saw as a marketing perspective, Lisa effectively came on at the end and said "Sorry guys. Might as well go buy that 1080Ti now".
I mean I can run prey on ultra easy at 1080p on my 480. It takes 2 Vegas to do it at 4k? That means High end Vega is only twice as fast as my card. I'm pretty sure the 1080Ti is more than twice as fast as the 480.
Sorry guys. The nvidia milking will continue.
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Wrong? lol. They didn't get it wrong. They got it SPOT ON.
Showcasing their CPUs and most importantly their partnership deals with PC and laptop manufacturers. That was perfect from AMD. (Just watch their share price over the next day or so).
You only think it was wrong because you didn't get your new GPU release. Yeah that sucks for us. Doesn't mean AMD got the event wrong. From a business perspective they got it spot on.
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No it's wrong because Conputex was said to be RX Vega unveiling. Some unveiling that was.
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I've been thinking about getting a dog, I may do that seeing as the summers here.
Which in turn means the old thread should have stayed open as this thread is going to be just as bad.
It something AMD do time and time again. They let everyone get all hyped up (intentional or not) and then disappoint everyone when they hand out a few crumbs of nothing. They should have said there would be nothing on Vega at Computex (even if they did these few small demos) and let everyone know the date for the actual launch event. There's no quicker way to lose customers than to hype them up and then disappoint them with nothing. It's like they've never heard the number one rule of "manage your customers' expectations". I wonder how many customers AMD has pushed to purchase a Nvidia card from this one event failing to deliver. People who have had enough of waiting for the promised reveal (implied or not) and simply go buy elsewhere so they don't have to keep waiting on a "maybe product".
Spot on? Are you high? Not showcasing your high-end GPUs in a manner that wouldn't cause a major loss in sales, and not setting a price or release date for threadripper after Intel basically handed them the spotlight for free - definitely isn't what anyone would call "spot on". Also no further details on their APUs which are the products that are possibly going to change the hybrid landscape. This was one of the worst presentations I've seen and that goes for both the business and consumer side of things.
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I don't really mind, as long we have a competent option!
Yeah and a G-Sync monitor to go with it, meaning there is a good chance AMD can kiss goodbye any graphics cards sales for Vega, Navi and likely beyond.
They should not even mentioned Vega at all for computex as they said nothing. They actually made it worse with what they showed with Prey. They just let a bunch of people down and annoyed them.
Lol I did say that chances are nothing would be revealed
Oh well, I am in no rush, **** all games and hardly any gaming time now so I can wait even longer
Same here, as I said before, I have played all the big titles I want for this year and last year after owning a 1080 and 1070 before that so my Nano is more than good enough for the things I am playing now. My next card will likely come sometime in 2018 once some of the big games I am waiting for get released. It may even end up being a Volta card if the power is needed and AMD do not have anything again.
I haven't been able to see the stream, but how possible are the following propositions?
1. Vega was shown dual only to show off EPYC's pcie lanes rather than an accurate reflection of Vega?
2. The tearing was actually a difference between camera and monitor --> then gets put to stream?
3. They still, considering we know Vega is 2 months away, want to keep performance hidden from the competition. Think about it, if you had a good or bad product, and told nvidia 2 months out, you'd want to hide what you have either way right?
Just some possibilities for people to discuss.
1. Vega was shown dual only to show off EPYC's pcie lanes rather than an accurate reflection of Vega?
2. The tearing was actually a difference between camera and monitor --> then gets put to stream?
3. They still, considering we know Vega is 2 months away, want to keep performance hidden from the competition. Think about it, if you had a good or bad product, and told nvidia 2 months out, you'd want to hide what you have either way right?
Just some possibilities for people to discuss.
1- wouldn't you want to show 4 of them in unison (I would assume they'd have 4 cards by now).
2-beyond me
.3-if it's bad yeah but if it's good you may make people who were about to buy hold off(probably over simplifying it).
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Well that's a bit disappointing. I was hoping for some charts, graphs or something but well, I will definitely have to review my options.
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1. It was a 60 second demonstration, if anything the event was showing of their processors more. we also got to see how tiny Ryzen mobile is (raven ridge) https://youtu.be/WK9z6NO1qyU?t=2189
2. The tearing was on the monitor, there were multiple tears at times but the gameplay appeared smooth compared to the rest of the stream. So it was likely running well over the monitors refresh rate.
3. could be likely.
Be that as it may, they could have handled that presentation much much better as far as Vega is concerned. I did not have a problem with the CPU side of things, that seemed okay.
What point is there in hiding anything when nvidia won't change their plans just because of Vega anyways as was already proven by the early Volta announcement? It just cost AMD some potential customers which isn't ideal this late in the game and hurt the brand overall (check if you can find any positive article about AMD after the event).
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