***THE BF4 BENCHMARKS THREAD***

[Ian Evey]

Even though i get no noticeable stutter or cpu spiking the game is still soooooo frustrating when you die behind a 2 foot thick wall, I started thinking there were special armour piercing rounds on some gun that went straight through walls that only i did not have

Although i only play for fun i just cannot be bothered anymore.

 

[LtMatt]

Much cheaper to just uninstall bf4.

But in all seriousness, aside from this niggle the game isnt too bad.

Even so, we'd love to have you. We're building a team of awesome friendly people and you'd fit the bill wonderfully.

 

[pgi947]

All in all its been alright for me lately, hit detection still waaay out in some instances (getting shot while 10m around a corner) but besides that not bad for a game nearly a year old.

CZ-3A1 = close quarters carnage, brilliant gun, a shame the bulldog and deagle are hand held nuclear warheads. The most unbalanced weapons I've seen in a Bf game.

 

[LtMatt]

All in all its been alright for me lately, hit detection still waaay out in some instances (getting shot while 10m around a corner) but besides that not bad for a game nearly a year old.

CZ-3A1 = close quarters carnage, brilliant gun, a shame the bulldog and deagle are hand held nuclear warheads. The most unbalanced weapons I've seen in a Bf game.

Fair shout that Monsieur tips. Always getting spanked by Bulldogs and Deagles on pistol only servers.

 

[setter]

Played a round just now, still the odd laggy spike, but reg was absolutely spot on. Dropping people with a few rounds at pretty long range with the ACE21 cqb carbine. That and a few craftily placed SLAM's, (i only thought mines in bf3 were a great laugh).

 

[Woodsta888]

This problem has only manifested itself since the Dragons Teeth DLC and was fine before. Game was great before that on 7990 with Mantle. Doesnt need 2 series card to enjoy mantle. The game is borked and like Setter was seeing if there was a fix. Only thing I havent tried is going back to Direct X...or have I? Setter?

Really is no need to shout "change hardware" when it is the game that has never really worked. Anyone can chuck money at a problem and I can't chuck money at the game.I don't think it's just AMD users either.

Only way to make a game work due to patches/DLC updates etc is to have a set of cards from the latest and previous gen and both AMD and Nvidia - that's the amount of coin you need to chuck at the BF4 problem. Then maybe you'll always get the game to work. Though my ability for my wallet to open for another title on Frostbite 3 and later has ceased. They havent delayed hardline because it worked properly.

Also I read (maybe here) that the community test environment folk recieved a 30+ GB version of Dragons Teeth. New BF4 game with that? Anyone know?

 

[humbug]

Fair shout that Monsieur tips. Always getting spanked by Bulldogs and Deagles on pistol only servers.

Look at the patch notes for Dragons Teeth, they nerf'd every single weapon outside of the Dragons Teeth DLC, one can only assume so that you get owned by anyone with a Dragons Teeth weapon to encourage you to go and buy the DLC or Premium.

Every weapon now that i'm used to has a noticeable difference, they all have the power of pea-shooters and i get owned by someone with a Bulldog every single time because it takes 4 times as many bullets to kill compared to it.

BF4 has just become properly pay to win.

 

[Rusty0611]

Look at the patch notes for Dragons Teeth, they nerf'd every single weapon outside of the Dragons Teeth DLC, one can only assume so that you get owned by anyone with a Dragons Teeth weapon to encourage you to go and buy the DLC or Premium.

Every weapon now that i'm used to has a noticeable difference, they all have the power of pea-shooters and i get owned by someone with a Bulldog every single time because it takes 4 times as many bullets to kill compared to it.

BF4 has just become properly pay to win.

All nonsense.

 

[Yaayuh!]

Look at the patch notes for Dragons Teeth, they nerf'd every single weapon outside of the Dragons Teeth DLC

Where can i see the patch notes online?

 

[humbug]

Where can i see the patch notes online?

Hang on, i need to find them again, they are not in the normal battle log

Its in CTE. shouldn't effect normal and yet my Friend the AWS which i have been using for about 50 hours was noticeably less effective after the last patch, i seem to be spraying twice as long into the chest or head at all ranges, unless the last patch has introduced yet another hit box / tick rate problem. tho i'm pretty sure its gone down from what was 35 to 30, though i could be wrong.

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/forum/threadview/2955064782153988776/

 

[Yaayuh!]

I found this list. It doesn't mention nerfing.

PC Game Update Jul 8 Patch Notes

COMMANDER APP:
-Various bug fixes

GENERAL:
-Fix for an issue where players were able to duplicate Battle Pickups by repeatedly picking up a kit
-Fix for an issue where field upgrades would stop working after one round when players had reached the max field upgrade level
-Fix for a crash that could occur when a player left a round
-Added a 15 seconds warm-up timer for all Official games Additional note, we added the warm-up for PC due to different client spec loading the map fairly, to create a more balanced start of the game.
-Created a user interface for tweaking the joystick dead zone on PC because the lack of it was preventing some players to use their joysticksNote: This fix was included by mistake, already released months ago.
-Fix for an issue that prevented players to issue squad order around capture points during the sandstorm on Gulf of Oman
-Option added for double tap forward to sprint (when on foot)

GRAPHICAL:
-Fix for an issue where the player would get a water splash effect on the screen after crashing an EOD/MAV/SUAV into the water
-Fix for an issue where Mantle users would receive a low frame rate when running the default Mantle multi-GPU settings

MODES:
-Added a competitive Obliteration game mode Note: Server admins has to set this up to get it running. Can only be used non-official servers.

SERVERS:
-Fix for an issue where server administrators couldn’t ban players that had clan tags

USER INTERFACE:
-Added total team experience points to the end of round screen for the Capture the Flag game mode
-Added user interface options for tweaking the ADS aiming sensitivity
-Fix for an issue where the kill card wasn’t displayed in some cases in Hardcore modeNote: Fixed, but will be included in the next patch release.
-Dog tags are rearranged in the kill cards so the right one is not obstructed

VEHICLES:
-Fix for an issue where the flag would occasionally float in mid-air when players got out of vehicles while carrying the flag
-Removed the boost button press to turn off boost for vehicles, boost should be turned off by releasing the accelerator, this makes it consistent with soldier sprint and helps using vehicle boost easier (for joystick)
-Adjusted the PWC physics so it drives/controls more nicely in all water levels
-Option added for double tap forward to boost (when driving a vehicle)

WEAPONS:
-Fix for an issue where a weapon would flail wildly after a player would die
-Removed the 2nd set of shell that are visible in the speed loader when reloading the M412 revolver
-Fix for the Hawk Shotgun missing “pump action” animation in 3rd person while crouching
-Fix for RPG-7 rocket remaining visible in the launcher after the last shot is fired while zoomed in
-Fixed the bipod animations for MTAR-21
-Foregrip in 3rd person now has hand in the correct position on M416/M417Note:This was a typo, M417 does not exist in BF4
-Fix for a broken animation when switching to AWS as main weapon

 

[humbug]

Hang on, i need to find them again, they are not in the normal battle log

Its in CTE. shouldn't effect normal and yet my Friend the AWS which i have been using for about 50 hours was noticeably less effective after the last patch, i seem to be spraying twice as long into the chest or head at all ranges, unless the last patch has introduced yet another hit box / tick rate problem. tho i'm pretty sure damage has gone down from what was 35 to 30, i could be wrong.

Bulldog is OP though. that thing is insane.

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/forum/threadview/2955064782153988776/

 

[Rusty0611]

It's not OP at all really. It just seems so because everybody THINKS it is OP and is therefore using it. The gun doesn't do anything the SCAR-H doesn't already do. In fact the SCAR-H kicks about less and has less spread. It's a better gun for pure aiming.

The Deagle is a bit too strong though... if you can aim (which the mass majority of the BF population can't aim for peanuts) then you will have a lot of fun with it. I am having a lot of fun with it . May as well until it gets toned down a bit. I think they'll change the hip accuracy and increase the vertical recoil a bit. It doesn't noticeably kick until the third quick shot. Two shots go dead straight and the mild recoil can be countered with pretty basic adjustment with the mouse.

 

[humbug]

It's not OP at all really. It just seems so because everybody THINKS it is OP and is therefore using it. The gun doesn't do anything the SCAR-H doesn't already do. In fact the SCAR-H kicks about less and has less spread. It's a better gun for pure aiming.

The Deagle is a bit too strong though... if you can aim (which the mass majority of the BF population can't aim for peanuts) then you will have a lot of fun with it. I am having a lot of fun with it . May as well until it gets toned down a bit. I think they'll change the hip accuracy and increase the vertical recoil a bit. It doesn't noticeably kick until the third quick shot. Two shots go dead straight and the mild recoil can be countered with pretty basic adjustment with the mouse.

I do like the SCAR-H, it's lethal with good aim, short aimed bursts. i have not used it for a long time, i have been unlocking other weapons since last using it to give me some variety.

At the moment i'm addicted to Locker, the AWS is just awesome for Locker, that and if your Base Raped; a Sniper Rifle....

Locker is the new Metro

 

[pgi947]

Bulldog is OP though. that thing is insane.

http://battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4/forum/threadview/2955064782153988776/

The weapon I've found most effective against bulldog users at short to med range is the CZ-3A1, only kicks out 20 damage per shot but packs a 1000 rate of fire vs the bulldogs 700 and has next to no recoil at all.

A little math helps on weapon selection:

Rate of fire / damage = true powah

Bulldog: 700 / 40 = 17.5
CZ-3A1: 1000 / 20 = 50
Deagle: howeverfastyoucanrepeatedlytapLMB / 85 = 1000 megaton nuclear arsenal.

 

[humbug]

The weapon I've found most effective against bulldog users at short to med range is the CZ-3A1, only kicks out 20 damage per shot but packs a 1000 rate of fire vs the bulldogs 700 and has next to no recoil at all.

A little math helps on weapon selection:

Rate of fire / damage = true powah

Bulldog: 700 / 40 = 17.5
CZ-3A1: 1000 / 20 = 50
Deagle: howeverfastyoucanrepeatedlytapLMB / 85 = 1000 megaton nuclear arsenal.

Thanks for the tip

 

[Ayahuasca]

SCAR-H with muzzle break and angled grip is my usual choice, didn't get on with the bulldog. I only play CTE atm though as the netcode and game itself feels far better than the normal client. If DICE had decided to wait 2 years between games and released it with all the planned CTE fixes, the game wouldn't have received anywhere near as much criticism as it did.

 

[scotsdragon]

Close lads ill be on tonight for some practise for tomoz's games,

PGI have you sorted out some of the other chosen admins powers and such?

 

[Rusty0611]

Don't mind Paul he's still sore about being Deagle sniped by me on locker a few times lol.

 

[setter]

This problem has only manifested itself since the Dragons Teeth DLC and was fine before. Game was great before that on 7990 with Mantle. Doesnt need 2 series card to enjoy mantle. The game is borked and like Setter was seeing if there was a fix. Only thing I havent tried is going back to Direct X...or have I? Setter?

Really is no need to shout "change hardware" when it is the game that has never really worked. Anyone can chuck money at a problem and I can't chuck money at the game.I don't think it's just AMD users either.

Only way to make a game work due to patches/DLC updates etc is to have a set of cards from the latest and previous gen and both AMD and Nvidia - that's the amount of coin you need to chuck at the BF4 problem. Then maybe you'll always get the game to work. Though my ability for my wallet to open for another title on Frostbite 3 and later has ceased. They havent delayed hardline because it worked properly.

Also I read (maybe here) that the community test environment folk recieved a 30+ GB version of Dragons Teeth. New BF4 game with that? Anyone know?

Ive had the spiking issue since bf4 was released. At that time i was running an i7 3770k and sli gtx 670's. Those cards were carried over to my spec in sig for a while before getting the gtx 780. Get it at stock speed or oc'd on gpu's and cpu's, (3x haswell i7's). Few things ive tried, unparking cores, user.cfg file tweaks, various changes in the nv control panel, experimenting with multiple setting configurations in the game graphics menu, ports on router, even been as far as uninstalling the game, reinstalling it and a format and reinstall of windows. All i can think of is that its a server issue, CTE is a lot better. But i havent played it in a while and need to download the 30gb update.