***THE BF4 BENCHMARKS THREAD***

[Rusty0611]

I can't wait to see you noobs on a hardcore server. Lambs to the slaughter.

Hardcore is way more newby... let's sit in a corner and wait for somebody playing the game to walk past . One burst, dead.

It's a better concept but with the dribblers you tend to get online sometimes it ruins it.

 

[LtMatt]

Hardcore is way more newby... let's sit in a corner and wait for somebody playing the game to walk past .

Doritos, regenerating player health, crosshairs, regenerating vehicle health. Rusty, don't even get me started.

 

[Gregster]

I love the battlefield friends cartoon series on youtube. Everyone they have done is spot on and very apt for battlefield

If anyone hasn't seen these, they are a must

 

[Rusty0611]

Doritos, regenerating player health, crosshairs, regenerating vehicle health. Rusty, don't even get me started.

Neither are perfect by any means but hardcore allows people who can't aim to still get kills. That annoys me personally more than anything else.

All about aiming for me .

 

[LtMatt]

Neither are perfect by any means but hardcore allows people who can't aim to still get kills. That annoys me personally more than anything else.

All about aiming for me .

I find normal mode considerably easier where as hardcore is more of a challenge as you can't Rambo it and you have to be careful because of your health. A good medic is essential, especially if you take damage from your previous firefight. No good waiting in a corner for your health to increase. It also promotes good team work for reasons like this. Same with engineers and vehicles.

 

[Besty]

I think people should be more worried about the ultra specs for watchdogs then bf4, recommended ultra spec = as many threads as you can lay your grubby little hands on and a 2gb vram minimum

Since Nvidia paid Ubisoft $5m the VRAM requirements for AMD based systems have doubled to 4GB, meaning it won't run well on the 290x as it only has....

....oh no wait...

 

[MyBrainz]

If you have a 2nd monitor, why not just use that instead of a 3rd? Are you playing over 2 screens?

Problem is when monitors 1 and 2 are in extended desktop mode i get some stutter in games while in full screen on monitor 1. So if i disable monitor 2 and use the 3rd monitor from the HD 3000 graphics it runs fine. Hope that makes some sense

My monitor set up is like this..

[23" 1080p] - [23" 1080p] - [19" 1360x768] < I usually use this one for Sky Go & Virgin TV Anywhere when i'm sitting @ my comp

I will test BF4 fullscreen in monitor 1 while 1 & 2 are extended sometime tomorrow

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Regarding the memory usage can some of u guys take a look at these stats in GPU-Z?

Memory Usage (Dedicated): graphics memory pages occupying the GPU's memory (memory on the graphics card)

Memory Usage (Dynamic): graphics memory pages occupying the system memory

Any chance the 2GB cards will be using more Dynamic Memory in BF4 Beta compared to BF3?

Just a thought

 

[Rusty0611]

I find normal mode considerably easier where as hardcore is more of a challenge as you can't Rambo it and you have to be careful because of your health. A good medic is essential, especially if you take damage from your previous firefight. No good waiting in a corner for your health to increase. It also promotes good team work for reasons like this. Same with engineers and vehicles.

That's the good bits of hardcore and the bad bits of normal. Missing half the equation there .

Each to their own though.

 

[LtMatt]

That's the good bits of hardcore and the bad bits of normal. Missing half the equation there .

Each to their own though.

There are no bad bits to hardcore. You still have to aim to kill someone, there is no auto aim feature. All it means is it takes 1-5 bullets to kill instead of 2-20.

 

[Rusty0611]

There are no bad bits to hardcore. You still have to aim to kill someone, there is no auto aim feature. All it means is it takes 1-5 bullets to kill instead of 2-20.

There are plenty of bad bits in hardcore you just aren't seeing them or they aren't bad bits for you, which is fair enough.

You need zero tracking skills and far less aim to kill somebody in hardcore. That is a bad thing. 20 is a slight exaggeration, isn't it Matthew?

 

[LtMatt]

There are plenty of bad bits in hardcore you just aren't seeing them or they aren't bad bits for you, which is fair enough.

You need zero tracking skills and far less aim to kill somebody in hardcore. That is a bad thing. 20 is a slight exaggeration, isn't it Matthew?

Does it aim for you then? I could have sworn you still have to aim to shoot at someone in either mode. You must be playing a different game Rusty.

 

[GoogalyMoogaly]

Bit late to this, but...

It was Tone who said he'd buy me a copy if it used more than 2gb and was playable. I never agreed to anything i just gave my prediction and was told i was wrong.

So you're now saying there is no bet as you didn't agree to anything?
The way I see it you either both agree to a bet and put something up or there's no bet.
The goalposts of this seem to change all the time. Also there was no mention (as far as I'm aware) of what results were being used to determine the outcome. It now appears that results are only valid from LtMatt approved sources, where as this wasn't stated up front. I've also seen you mention a POV of 90, which wasn't mentioned up front.

Kaaps tests don't count because he used 2 690s thus 4 GPUs instead of 2 and apparently 2GB VRAM only bottlenecks 2 GPUs and not 4?

I think a lot of use will know that you can get score variations when running Heaven 4. How did Sweclockers run the same test so many times and eliminate any variances? Why are their results so infallible?
It's also been said that the whole of the internet agrees with Sweclockers, so maybe this thread needs a few hundred more graphs from the rest of the internet backing this up?

 

[GoogalyMoogaly]

Does it aim for you then? I could have sworn you still have to aim to shoot at someone in either mode. You must be playing a different game Rusty.

"Spray-and-pray" - mostly a hardcore tactic due to not needing to hit the enemy many times. Not a massive amount of aiming required.

And yes, I do tend to play hardcore...

 

[pgi947]

Hahaha, I was laughing a goodun as I see it coming down (with my parachute)

Played with Pgi last night and let him stick his head out to act as cannon fodder while I cleaned up

Team game???? yer right

I like to play my part

Need to unlock some other weapons though, really can't get to grips with the stock weapons.

Since Nvidia paid Ubisoft $5m the VRAM requirements for AMD based systems have doubled to 4GB, meaning it won't run well on the 290x as it only has....

....oh no wait...

What's more interesting is the recommendation of 8 or more threads/cores, seriously heavy on the cpu by the sounds of it.

 

[Rusty0611]

Does it aim for you then? I could have sworn you still have to aim to shoot at someone in either mode. You must be playing a different game Rusty.

"Spray-and-pray" - mostly a hardcore tactic due to not needing to hit the enemy many times. Not a massive amount of aiming required.

And yes, I do tend to play hardcore...

Exactly as this man said. It allows people who can't aim to get kills from spraying and hoping for the best. If you can aim and you play hardcore then you're even more sorted. But it enables bad players to sit in rancid positions mowing you down before you can react due to the bullet damage modifier.

You don't need good aim and you don't need to track to kill anybody. Not to say that everyone who plays hardcore can't aim or anything but it enables people who wouldn't otherwise kill me.

 

[Gregster]

Nvidia or AMD...Pfffft

CPU FTW with newer games.

 

[Mei]

I love the battlefield friends cartoon series on youtube. Everyone they have done is spot on and very apt for battlefield

If anyone hasn't seen these, they are a must

its the best thing about bf

hehe!

 

[LtMatt]

Bit late to this, but...



So you're now saying there is no bet as you didn't agree to anything?
The way I see it you either both agree to a bet and put something up or there's no bet.
The goalposts of this seem to change all the time. Also there was no mention (as far as I'm aware) of what results were being used to determine the outcome. It now appears that results are only valid from LtMatt approved sources, where as this wasn't stated up front. I've also seen you mention a POV of 90, which wasn't mentioned up front.

Kaaps tests don't count because he used 2 690s thus 4 GPUs instead of 2 and apparently 2GB VRAM only bottlenecks 2 GPUs and not 4?

I think a lot of use will know that you can get score variations when running Heaven 4. How did Sweclockers run the same test so many times and eliminate any variances? Why are their results so infallible?
It's also been said that the whole of the internet agrees with Sweclockers, so maybe this thread needs a few hundred more graphs from the rest of the internet backing this up?

I was told i was in the wrong for saying the 2gb limit might be exceeded. That is how all this started. It was Tones idea, nothing to do with me. You'll have to take any issues about specifics up with him. I'm not going over it all again, sorry. Its been shown to exceed the limit now we wait for the final build and take it from there.

Swe clockers are the only gameplay centric recorded benchmarks we have from the game. The gamegpu benchmarks are not gameplay benchmarks. Its ok for a rough indication but will not be accurate to reflect actual gameplay performance. Its like taking a benchmark of GTA V but not leaving the safe house.

Exactly as this man said. It allows people who can't aim to get kills from spraying and hoping for the best. If you can aim and you play hardcore then you're even more sorted. But it enables bad players to sit in rancid positions mowing you down before you can react due to the bullet damage modifier.

You don't need good aim and you don't need to track to kill anybody. Not to say that everyone who plays hardcore can't aim or anything but it enables people who wouldn't otherwise kill me.

Clap trap. If anything you need a better aim in hardcore because as you say, anybody can kill you. That encourages you to get better and aim better, as you like to put it.

 

[Rusty0611]

Its been shown to exceed the limit now we wait for the final build and take it from there.

But this hasn't been shown... it's been hinted at but proof is a long way away. Especially as it's only a beta as you say.

Clap trap. If anything you need a better aim in hardcore because as you say, anybody can kill you. That encourages you to get better and aim better, as you like to put it.

I hope you genuinely don't believe that and you're pulling my leg .

 

[Neil79]

UPDATE!!!!!!!!!!

BATTLEFIELD 4 is SUPER SUPER smooth on Windows 8, Ive just tested it myself and it's like a completely new game.

Windows 7 IS the cause.

Oh and I have Windows 8 looking like Windows 7 with Start Button