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Don't understand why home lander didn't destroy soldier, and why was he so weak in that fight?

Why did he hold back? Why don't we get to see some proper evil, not some crappy snippets. Not excited about s4 at all.
 
Have they removed the Herogasm episode from Prime?? Cant get episode 6 to show, I can view all the other episodes but ep6 just says Something went wrong, please try again later

Edit : Weird..I can watch it on my prime app on my mobile but cant watch it on my prime app on the tv
 
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Yes, disappointing ending.

I honestly didn't understand the motivation of any of them.

Homelander is still and has always been the biggest threat, yet they seemed intent on stopping soldier boy at all costs.

I still like the show and will watch season 4 but the writing was definitely sloppy at the end there.

It seemed to me like they obviously needed Homelander still as the main bad guy going forward, but how they did that was awkward.
 
Jono8 said:
Yes, disappointing ending.

I honestly didn't understand the motivation of any of them.

Homelander is still and has always been the biggest threat, yet they seemed intent on stopping soldier boy at all costs.

I still like the show and will watch season 4 but the writing was definitely sloppy at the end there.

It seemed to me like they obviously needed Homelander still as the main bad guy going forward, but how they did that was awkward.
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Makes sense no?

Soldier boy is amoral, explodes and kills a lot of people quite often and generally has a complete lack of control in every aspect of his life.

Homelander is a man child who is desperate for affection and approval and wants to keep up the appearance of "the good guy", the "superman" character. One of those is much more dangerous in the short term.
 
fez said:
Makes sense no?

Soldier boy is amoral, explodes and kills a lot of people quite often and generally has a complete lack of control in every aspect of his life.

Homelander is a man child who is desperate for affection and approval and wants to keep up the appearance of "the good guy", the "superman" character. One of those is much more dangerous in the short term.
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No, not really.

Soldier Boy was only out for revenge against his team. Other than that, he seemed content with smoking weed and banging old women.

Homelander had been identified by all of them as a massive threat to the whole world as it was obvious to them that he is a complete psychopath.

The whole season has been about Butcher and the team trying to get Homelander.

If they didn't think there would be some collateral damage from doing so , then they are stupid.

At no point was it shown that Soldier Boy was going to be more of a long term threat than Homelander.
 
Jono8 said:
No, not really.

Soldier Boy was only out for revenge against his team. Other than that, he seemed content with smoking weed and banging old women.

Homelander had been identified by all of them as a massive threat to the whole world as it was obvious to them that he is a complete psychopath.

The whole season has been about Butcher and the team trying to get Homelander.

If they didn't think there would be some collateral damage from doing so , then they are stupid.

At no point was it shown that Soldier Boy was going to be more of a long term threat than Homelander.
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I disagree. They worked with soldier boy and slowly realised that he was just as dangerous but without the constant fear of being exposed for the nasty piece of work he was. Soldier boy would 100% have become a menace if they took out Homelander. He was an egotistical maniac back in the day and the only reason he had some narrow focus was because he wanted revenge on his old team. After that he would probably have gone back to being an ego maniac but wouldn't have cared who knew.

That was my take on the season. Homelander was the big bad but they slowly realised that they had unleashed an equally bad monster. Until the very end of the last episode the veil of respectability was still there with Homelander.
 
fez said:
I disagree. They worked with soldier boy and slowly realised that he was just as dangerous but without the constant fear of being exposed for the nasty piece of work he was. Soldier boy would 100% have become a menace if they took out Homelander. He was an egotistical maniac back in the day and the only reason he had some narrow focus was because he wanted revenge on his old team. After that he would probably have gone back to being an ego maniac but wouldn't have cared who knew.

That was my take on the season. Homelander was the big bad but they slowly realised that they had unleashed an equally bad monster. Until the very end of the last episode the veil of respectability was still there with Homelander.
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What? I feel like you didn't even watch it.

Homelander specifically said if he did not get adulation, he would just kill everyone.

Soldier boy was definitely never shown to be as big a threat to the world as Homelander.
 
Jono8 said:
What? I feel like you didn't even watch it.

Homelander specifically said if he did not get adulation, he would just kill everyone.

Soldier boy was definitely never shown to be as big a threat to the world as Homelander.
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We're never going to agree on this so i'll leave it at that.
 
Allnamestaken said:
His son was there and there was a mutual interest to save him too, there was a lot of things happening at once.
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Oh I know the son was there and that was the given reason for Butcher doing a 180 on his series long plan.

However, the lines aren't clear as to what Soldier Boy's power does to the supes. Meave was hugging him as he went nuclear and survived. Kamiko survived. Odds are Ryan shielded by Homelander would have been fine.

I still don't quite get why the plan was to fight Soldier Boy, instead of have someone take Ryan away and then get to Homelander.

It just seemed a bit contrived and not very well written.
 
Jono8 said:
Oh I know the son was there and that was the given reason for Butcher doing a 180 on his series long plan.

However, the lines aren't clear as to what Soldier Boy's power does to the supes. Meave was hugging him as he went nuclear and survived. Kamiko survived. Odds are Ryan shielded by Homelander would have been fine.

I still don't quite get why the plan was to fight Soldier Boy, instead of have someone take Ryan away and then get to Homelander.

It just seemed a bit contrived and not very well written.
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His power explodes and burns off the V in their blood. If you are super close to him when it happens and you are not uber resilient then you will probably die. They don't really explain how instantaneous the loss of powers is, perhaps so they could save Maeve for the next series.

He killed a load of supes and randoms at Herogasm.

I don't think many people would risk "probably would be fine" with their kid or any kid they cared about. Ryan is also a super power kid who probably wouldn't be really easy to remove and might flip and kill the person doing it.

Its also a TV show, it doesn't follow impeccable logic. If it did, 90% of the stuff wouldn't happen.
 
I'd rather see a redemption arc than the incredibly telegraphed losing of everything (son, powers, adoration, life) that is set up for next season.
 
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