Hi dave, sounds like some serious modding going on
, one problem i can think of if you been playing skyrim with mods installed then you cleaned them in TES5edit doing the master files that what ever was there before is still stuck into your save files, i would suggest either restarting a new game or try this program to clean your save game up
http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/31724/?
Just incase you didnt know check out your log file for anything unusual in there that can point out a lot of problems with mods, goto skyrim ini file (not skyrim prefs) and change these
[Papyrus]
fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0
bEnableLogging=1
bEnableTrace=1
bLoadDebugInformation=1
After a while a log file will appear where you ini and save are and you can open it and have a look at whats going on while the games running, should look something like this
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:12AM] Papyrus log opened (PC)
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:12AM] Update budget: 1.200000ms (Extra tasklet budget: 1.200000ms, Load screen budget: 500.000000ms)
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:12AM] Memory page: 128 (min) 512 (max) 76800 (max total)
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:39AM] Cannot open store for class "dlc1scwispwallscript", missing file?
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:39AM] Cannot open store for class "DLC2BenthicLurkerFXSCRIPT", missing file?
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:41AM] Cannot open store for class "SIC_SpiderUnsummonExp", missing file?
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:41AM] Cannot open store for class "SPEElementalFuryScript", missing file?
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:41AM] Cannot open store for class "SPEHasteEffectScript", missing file?
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:42AM] Error: Unable to bind script DLC2WaterScript to (0401AAD8) because their base types do not match
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:47AM] Warning: Property FSMQ01PortalISM on script FSKR_SF_FSMQ01MeetGuardScene_0113E2D6 attached to (0513E2D6) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:47AM] Warning: Property Discussion on script FSKR_FSMQ04PlayerChairSCRIPT attached to (0504320C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:47AM] Warning: Property Meeting on script FSKR_FSMQ04PlayerChairSCRIPT attached to (0504320C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:47AM] Warning: Property PlayerRef on script FSKR_FSMQ01PedestalScript attached to (0502815C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:48AM] Warning: Property pTG05KarliahInvisibilitySpell on script QF_TG05_00021551 attached to TG05 (00021551) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:48AM] Warning: Property TG05KarliahInvisibilitySpell on script tg06questscript attached to TG06 (00021552) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:48AM] Warning: Property DGIntimidateQuest on script FSKR_BrawlSetupScript attached to FalskaarUniqueDialogue (05022334) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:48AM] Warning: Property PlayerRef on script FSKR_FSMQ01PedestalScript attached to (05025059) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:48AM] Warning: Property DoorLook on script FSKR_SF_FSMQ08AgnarGoodbye_0107855F attached to (0507855F) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:48AM] Warning: Property Merchant on script FSKR_SF_FSMQ04GoranOpenGateS_010415EB attached to (050415EB) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:48AM] VM is freezing...
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:48AM] VM is frozen
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:48AM] Reverting game...
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:48AM] Error: Unable to bind script DLC2WaterScript to (0401AAD8) because their base types do not match
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:48AM] Warning: Property FSMQ01PortalISM on script FSKR_SF_FSMQ01MeetGuardScene_0113E2D6 attached to (0513E2D6) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:48AM] Warning: Property PlayerRef on script FSKR_FSMQ01PedestalScript attached to (0502815C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:48AM] Warning: Property PlayerRef on script FSKR_FSMQ01PedestalScript attached to (05025059) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:49AM] Warning: Property pTG05KarliahInvisibilitySpell on script QF_TG05_00021551 attached to TG05 (00021551) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:49AM] Warning: Property TG05KarliahInvisibilitySpell on script tg06questscript attached to TG06 (00021552) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:49AM] Warning: Property Discussion on script FSKR_FSMQ04PlayerChairSCRIPT attached to (0504320C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:49AM] Warning: Property Meeting on script FSKR_FSMQ04PlayerChairSCRIPT attached to (0504320C) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:49AM] Warning: Property DGIntimidateQuest on script FSKR_BrawlSetupScript attached to FalskaarUniqueDialogue (05022334) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:49AM] Warning: Property DoorLook on script FSKR_SF_FSMQ08AgnarGoodbye_0107855F attached to (0507855F) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:49AM] Warning: Property Merchant on script FSKR_SF_FSMQ04GoranOpenGateS_010415EB attached to (050415EB) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:57AM] Loading game...
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:57AM] VM is thawing...
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:58AM] ========== Auto Unequip Ammo: Scanning for supported plugins...
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:58AM] ========== ERRORS RELATED TO MISSING FILES SHOULD BE IGNORED!
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:58AM] InitWidgetLoader()
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:58AM] Error: File "XFLMain.esm" does not exist or is not currently loaded.
stack:
<unknown self>.Game.GetFormFromFile() - "<native>" Line ?
[AUA (1300C6C2)].AUAQuestScript.GameLoaded() - "AUAQuestScript.psc" Line 40
[AUA (1300C6C2)].AUAQuestScript.OnUpdate() - "AUAQuestScript.psc" Line 73
[08/06/2013 - 11:04:58AM] ========== Auto Unequip Ammo: Scan complete.
Thats what it looks like when master files been cleaned with TES5edit and using unoffical patches, if your logg file is 100kb and over there is something not right tbh
. I can recommend a few mods which work great and improve the game a lot if your interested