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Participant said:
I've got absolutely no problem with what Carey did and I'm really surprised that people think this is off.

Firstly Carey threw it when Bairstow was still in his crease. Secondly you can't leave your crease for obvious reasons until the ball is dead, otherwise you'll get fielding teams missing run outs for singles because they 'felt bad' upsetting Stuart Broad's feelings.
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Yeah it was just a shock to see.

Bairstow at fault though. Again, like the catch yesterday, you learn not to leave the crease until the ball is dead pretty much the first time you pick up a bat and put one pad on.
 
Participant said:
I've got absolutely no problem with what Carey did and I'm really surprised that people think this is off.

Firstly Carey threw it when Bairstow was still in his crease. Secondly you can't leave your crease for obvious reasons until the ball is dead, otherwise you'll get fielding teams missing run outs for singles because they 'felt bad' upsetting Stuart Broad's feelings.
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What? Whats it got to do with when he threw it? Why was he throwing it other than to get a run out. If a routine ball goes through to the wicket keeper and you haven't tried to play it down the wicket it is considered dead. The batsman doesn't give it a second thought. Next ball.

Your argument sounds like McGraths argument about the dropped catch yesterday. Hyperbole and weird false equivalence. There is a huge difference you are ignoring. If you run then you are active. You are trying to score runs and the ball is still in play. No one has ever contested a run out on the grounds of "I ran but I thought the ball was dead. Why was he trying to get me out".

What point is the ball dead btw? Can it go to another fielder from the wicket keeper who then stumps you? Is that cool?

There is a reason the vast majority of people think its scummy...

Its awful sportsmanship but its the Aussies so they won't care. That has probably won them the match.
 
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fez said:
What? Whats it got to do with when he threw it? Why was he throwing it other than to get a run out. If a routine ball goes through to the wicket keeper and you haven't tried to play it down the wicket it is considered dead. The batsman doesn't give it a second thought. Next ball.

Your argument sounds like McGraths argument about the dropped catch yesterday. Hyperbole and weird false equivalence. There is a huge difference you are ignoring. If you run then you are active. You are trying to score runs and the ball is still in play. No one has ever contested a run out on the grounds of "I ran but I thought the ball was dead. Why was he trying to get me out".

What point is the ball dead btw? Can it go to another fielder from the wicket keeper who then stumps you? Is that cool?

There is a reason the vast majority of people think its scummy...

Its awful sportsmanship but its the Aussies so they won't care. That has probably won them the match.
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The wording of the rules is that the ball is dead when it is finally settled in the wicket keepers gloves.

What 'settled' means....

Regardless, it's definitely not in the spirit of the game. It's a bit unlikely Stokes can stick it to them and rescue the game but I would be delighted to see them lose for that action alone.
 
BBC site has some of what the wicket mic picked up from Broad:
To Alex Carey: "That's all you'll ever be remembered for that."
To Pat Cummins: "That's the worst thing I've ever seen in cricket."
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:cry:
 
fez said:
What? Whats it got to do with when he threw it? Why was he throwing it other than to get a run out. If a routine ball goes through to the wicket keeper and you haven't tried to play it down the wicket it is considered dead. The batsman doesn't give it a second thought. Next ball.

Your argument sounds like McGraths argument about the dropped catch yesterday. Hyperbole and weird false equivalence. There is a huge difference you are ignoring. If you run then you are active. You are trying to score runs and the ball is still in play. No one has ever contested a run out on the grounds of "I ran but I thought the ball was dead. Why was he trying to get me out".

What point is the ball dead btw? Can it go to another fielder from the wicket keeper who then stumps you? Is that cool?

There is a reason the vast majority of people think its scummy...

Its awful sportsmanship but its the Aussies so they won't care. That has probably won them the match.
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Carey threw it in case he had a stumping chance, like any other stumping. Turns out he did.
 
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