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Interesting. I hadn't realised that Caesar, Pompey and Crassus had used a time machine...
Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (June Poll)
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Interesting. I hadn't realised that Caesar, Pompey and Crassus had used a time machine...
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Interesting article from a very good source for those of you that think we can leave and do what Norway do.
http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...s-seduced-by-norwegian-model?CMP=share_btn_fb
http://www.theguardian.com/commenti...s-seduced-by-norwegian-model?CMP=share_btn_fb
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Is it wrong to have voted stay in, simply for the fact it appears the vast majority of outers appear to be scumbags? Nigel Farage, EDL types, BNPs Nick Griffin, Britain First etc and most of the vocal outers in this thread could be described as stormfront members.
I don't mean that in an offensive way, not really paid much attention to the referendum, just seems like people I despise want out. So maybe I should just vote in.
I don't mean that in an offensive way, not really paid much attention to the referendum, just seems like people I despise want out. So maybe I should just vote in.
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Your mates are very sensible, the type of migrants we want. The ones that embrace our culture. Shame people who didn't have to apply are clueless enough to vote IN.
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Danish referendums on Maastricht, Irish referendums on the Treaty of Lisbon...
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Lol. So they get over here and then vote to lock the door and that is 'embracing our culture'?
What a stupid post.
Its not wrong to dislike those people - BTW Britain first, BNP and the EDL haven't been involved in this campaign as far as I can see - but it is wrong to make a choice over our membership of the EU because of that dislike.
Look at the issues, read the debates, and make up your own mind.
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I think he meant that he wants the kind of people who come over and votes the same way as him
They choose to do that that's the difference we will not pay them diddly
Come on Moses, this has been said several times.
Ireland for one and Greece having elected officials removed.
No their is no other terms... The EU offers the terms agree or agree... Those are your only options.
Both of those referendums was effectively after a renegotiation with very different terms. Opt-outs and guarantees.
You also leave out other referendums where there wasn't a second one.
Denmark and Sweden aren't in the Eurozone. The European Constitution fell through.
Greece is the only one where i can see the referendum result being ignored. That is only because Greece wasn't in a position to reject the deal (accept the money being handed to you, or go into economic oblivion on your own), a referendum was silly to begin with.
How many times do people need to be spoon-fed the details about the referendums in Ireland and Denmark before they stop parroting the idea that the EU made them re-run them until the 'right' answer was reached? If you get corrected on something and keep spouting it to support an argument then we're pretty much in the "facts don't matter to me" Boris Johnson territory.
The people said no, the EU was eager to bring more capital or rather a bigger capital base into the fold. This is evidenced by Irelands economic crash that required multiple bailouts.
The EU is not what it claims to be and the evidence is all around. The most glaring is that of Greece, it has assets leveraged to a bank!
Greece should have left the EU when it had the chance and forged ties with other nations that would have been willing to help. Russia I am sure would have been one such nation.
Because Germany is going to come cup in hand to ensure that they can keep selling to their 3rd biggest export market?
Do you even know what you are talking about? What does capital base mean to you?
Greece instead of being helped by the EU should have gone to Russia for help? You think Russia would have given anything like the money the EU has on such favourable interest rates over such a long term?
Oh dear. You really don't have a clue.
Greece had the choice of accepting the deal, or defaulting and the government having no money overnight.
I do know exactly what I am talking about thanks. Its not my job to bring you up to my level. It will be a hard climb but you'll get there.
Do you know what Russia's terms would have been? No thought not. But we do know some of the parameters of the Greek bailout conditions... Do you know what they are? No didn't think so.
What don't you understand about Greece was bankrupt! Greece have borrowed €303bn which is more than it was possible to pay. As Yanis Varofoukis said he looked at the offer knowing Greece was bankrupt. Watch his Oxford Union address you will learn more about the Greek situation in that 1hr than in a week of research.
This loan is looking likely to cave in and will only be met with assets leveraged against the debt.
Go learn something other than having the news tell you what is happening and what to think.
If it's so bad, why are the Norwegian people not champing at the bit to join up? I've seen no evidence that there is much support for that notion. I have seen evidence that Norwegians aren't too happy at their government for signing up to Schengen.
Duh! Greece never was able to go bankrupt. Its not that difficult to follow
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