Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (June Poll)

[Glaucus]

so you want an unobtainable position and due to that are voting for something that will get you even further away from your goals.


that's sensible. the world is not perfect. being ideological to the core is not sensible, it will never happen. people think differently and thus you have to compromise in a democracy.

 

[Avenged7Fold]

So Remain you are siding with

Nick Clegg
Tony Blair
Nicola Sturgeon

Good job !!

We aren't supporting a mates football team or cheering on your daughters netball match. This is a referendum, we are not siding with anyone, we are casting our votes for the choice we prefer.

If you are looking for a popularity contest, xfactor is more your game than politics

 

[Glaucus]

Which "standards" are you talking about here? Give me specifics

for a start

let alone consumer law of which there are many dozens, environmental rights again of which there are many.
https://www.tuc.org.uk/sites/default/files/UK employment rights and the EU.pdf

very few of which any uk government has interest in providing.

awaits you to list a tiny handful where we were first or go above, but they are swamped by what the eu has introduced.

 

[County]

so you want an unobtainable position and due to that are voting for something that will get you even further away from your goals.


that's sensible. the world is not perfect. being ideological to the core is not sensible, it will never happen. people think differently and thus you have to compromise in a democracy.

Again. The EU is a Neoliberal capitalist ideology. It absolutely destroys democracy and imposes austerity never before seen.

It will continue regardless of whether we remain or not. We have no chance of reformation and the true left MPs (who i have named) all know this to be the case.

We therefore have to look after our own people in a truly socialist society. You think the austerity is bad from the Tories???? Just look at Greece, all due to this political ideology you seem to hail.

 

[Glaucus]

So Remain you are siding with

Nick Clegg
Tony Blair
Nicola Sturgeon

Good job !!

and on the leave side are a massive list of even worse people
putin and trump as the top two...

what an utterly stupid statement.

 

[Glaucus]

Again. The EU is a Neoliberal capitalist ideology. It absolutely destroys democracy and imposes austerity never before seen.

It will continue regardless of whether we remain or not. We have no chance of reformation and the true left MPs (who i have named) all know this to be the case.

We therefore have to look after our own people in a truly socialist society. You think the austerity is bad from the Tories???? Just look at Greece, all due to this political ideology you seem to hail.

oh dear.
because we are like Greece?
Greece brought it on themselves by not paying taxes.
hail is far to strong, however on balance they have been a verty good thing.

look after our own, again read the political landscape, that isn't going to happen. how can you even think that is even a remote outcome of that.
far to many people in this country don't care about looking after anyone, just want to punish criminals, and are well far from enlightened. until that changes you have no chance and blindly following your ideology with no compromise isn't going to help your course and lead to you achieving your goals.

 

[muon]

The austerity Greece has now is nothing compared to what would have happened if it defaulted outside of the EU. The IMF would not have given anywhere near the same amount of money.

Why don't people get that the EU has literally handed hundreds of billions to Greece in return for showing that they will eventually pay it back, far in the future.

Germans are somehow "harsh" for not giving more money at even lower rates of interest.

 

[estebanrey]

Say what you like about his divisive "Rivers of blood" speech, but Enoch Powell is scarily prophetic here

 

[Skunkworks]

So effectively you're complaining that we don't have a disproportionate level of influence in the European Parliament?

Our influence should be proportional to amount of money we put in.

 

[ukxenon]

I will vote leave but odds on polls will be close and we will end up staying in

 

[Nate--IRL--]

Our influence should be proportional to amount of money we put in.

As opposed to putting money in and have no influence if Joining the EEA?

Nate

 

[John40]

I will vote leave but odds on polls will be close and we will end up staying in

We may have an Austrian magic postal vote "correction"

 

[w1lliam]

Our influence should be proportional to amount of money we put in.

So you're OK with millionaires in this country getting more than a single vote in the referendum, general and local elections?

After all influence should be proportional to what money we put in...

 

[Tenuous]

Our influence should be proportional to amount of money we put in.

So the EU parliament should be run as some kind of feudal aristocracy? Only the rich get a vote? Much democracy, such progress, wow.

 

[w1lliam]

Again. The EU is a Neoliberal capitalist ideology. It absolutely destroys democracy and imposes austerity never before seen.

It will continue regardless of whether we remain or not. We have no chance of reformation and the true left MPs (who i have named) all know this to be the case.

We therefore have to look after our own people in a truly socialist society. You think the austerity is bad from the Tories???? Just look at Greece, all due to this political ideology you seem to hail.

Uhm... The Tories are pushing the austerity ideology in this country and afaiak the EU and leading economists believe that increasing government spending will lift us out of recession.

 

[ReltonBFD]

We may have an Austrian magic postal vote "correction"

Thats only if it's looking like a leave victory, it'd be raining postal boxes

 

[Delvis]

So basically, if leave don't win it's a magical fix and they'll cry like there is no tomorrow?

But if they win it's a different story?

Again. Hilarious

 

[muon]

So basically, if leave don't win it's a magical fox and they'll cry like there is no tomorrow?

But if they win it's a different story?

Again. Hilarious

They don't really believe in democracy. They just want it all their own way.

I could show you several dozen posts across these EU poll threads indicating as such. Excuses around fixes have already been lined up.

 

[John40]

Unfortunately I expect Remain to win by at least 10-15 points simply because the undecided are afraid of change.

 

[ReltonBFD]

Unfortunately I expect Remain to win by at least 10-15 points simply because the undecided are afraid of change.

I'm getting more confident of a leave win, but realistically Remain are going to win but I think it may be in single figures %wise