Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (June Poll)

[Skunkworks]

I wondering if anyone’s changed their vote, or heard a reliable account of someone changing their vote due to the murder of Jo Cox?

Please note, any of the ideologues claiming they know loads will be disregarded, so save the wear & tear on your keyboard.

 

[StriderX]

I wondering if anyone’s changed their vote, or heard a reliable account of someone changing their vote due to the murder of Jo Cox?

Please note, any of the ideologues claiming they know loads will be disregarded, so save the wear & tear on your keyboard.

I don't see what actual bearing it has on the vote, but I'm sure people's tiny brains won't let that stop them from going either way with her murder.

 

[phil675]

I wondering if anyone’s changed their vote, or heard a reliable account of someone changing their vote due to the murder of Jo Cox?

Please note, any of the ideologues claiming they know loads will be disregarded, so save the wear & tear on your keyboard.

There was a tweet somewhere saying polls before and after have not changed much, but polling data is usually at least a week old anyway.

 

[Six6siX]

I wondering if anyone’s changed their vote, or heard a reliable account of someone changing their vote due to the murder of Jo Cox?

Please note, any of the ideologues claiming they know loads will be disregarded, so save the wear & tear on your keyboard.

Not heard anything like that myself.

I'd hope most people would be sensible enough to realise that it's a tragic isolated incident even if it does have political implications. I just hope it doesn't start to get used in any campaign or media to push any agendas.

 

[scorza]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/13018...es-with-polish-only-job-ad-for-building-firm/

A WEALTHY Labour donor has sparked outrage after his building firm advertised jobs for Polish workers only.

Dr Anwar Ansari’s AA Homes and Housing has won lucrative government contracts and boasts assets totalling £80million.
...
Under the firm’s name it read: “A big construction company in South London is looking for Polish kitchen fitters, plumbers, tilers, carpenters and labourers.”

 

[Deleted member 66701]

I hope people are aware that even a leave result for the referendum probably wont lead to us actually leaving the EU.

Leaving the EU requires an act of parliament - I can't see the Tories getting it through with a majority of 14, especially as the party is undergoing a civil war.

http://www.standard.co.uk/business/a...-a3272621.html

 

[Mr Jack]

I hope people are aware that even a leave result for the referendum probably wont lead to us actually leaving the EU.

Leaving the EU requires an act of parliament - I can't see the Tories getting it through with a majority of 14, especially as the party is undergoing a civil war.

You said this in the other thread; it's not true. A vote to Leave will mean we leave and leaving the EU does not require an act of parliament, the government can simply activate article 50 and then we're on a one way street to leaving the EU. There will need to be some votes to remove/amend laws that refer to the EU but these will pass easily, MPs will not vote against the expressed will of the British people in any numbers. At most, the nationalist MPs will vote against arguing that "their country" voted to Remain. Tory and Labour MPs will be triple line whipped to vote through the laws and only the tiniest handful of them would even think of voting another way anyway.

 

[McBain]

I hope people are aware that even a leave result for the referendum probably wont lead to us actually leaving the EU.

Leaving the EU requires an act of parliament - I can't see the Tories getting it through with a majority of 14, especially as the party is undergoing a civil war.

http://www.standard.co.uk/business/a...-a3272621.html

Garbage.

 

[Skunkworks]

I hope people are aware that even a leave result for the referendum probably wont lead to us actually leaving the EU.

Leaving the EU requires an act of parliament - I can't see the Tories getting it through with a majority of 14, especially as the party is undergoing a civil war.

http://www.standard.co.uk/business/a...-a3272621.html

Don't worry, if we leave I doubt it'll affect all those Syrians you housed last year.

 

[ReltonBFD]

Don't worry, if we leave I doubt it'll affect all those Syrians you housed last year.

 

[Insanties_birth]

I hope people are aware that even a leave result for the referendum probably wont lead to us actually leaving the EU.

Leaving the EU requires an act of parliament - I can't see the Tories getting it through with a majority of 14, especially as the party is undergoing a civil war.

http://www.standard.co.uk/business/a...-a3272621.html

That would only make me more likely to vote out anyway. It'd still act as a form of protest against the EU that helps them wake up and recognise we don't want them to take away our sovereignity and glue all the nations together with rigid, top-down polciies that they enact and then just leave to us to pick up the pieces but it'd still give us more chance to voice it without having to necessarily leave. It'd give ministers a clear indication of the lack of support and boost there current 'euro sceptic' support with many claiming to be euro sceptic while just trying to push through everything the EU does *cough cameron cough*.

After all, if there's plenty of real anti-EU politicans and hundreds who think we should stay regardless but know the EU has lots of flaws and they need to be sceptical of it then what better way to reaffirm that than with a loud message like our referendum?

 

[Six6siX]

That would only make me more likely to vote out anyway. It'd still act as a form of protest against the EU that helps them wake up and recognise we don't want them to take away our sovereignity and glue all the nations together with rigid, top-down polciies that they enact and then just leave to us to pick up the pieces but it'd still give us more chance to voice it without having to necessarily leave. It'd give ministers a clear indication of the lack of support and boost there current 'euro sceptic' support with many claiming to be euro sceptic while just trying to push through everything the EU does *cough cameron cough*.

After all, if there's plenty of real anti-EU politicans and hundreds who think we should stay regardless but know the EU has lots of flaws and they need to be sceptical of it then what better way to reaffirm that than with a loud message like our referendum?

So is your vote more in protest rather than based in what the outcome will bring and what the positives and negatives are?

 

[Insanties_birth]

So is your vote more in protest rather than based in what the outcome will bring and what the positives and negatives are?

No, my vote is based on the positives and negatives of two key points. Those are the economy and the political situations surrounding staying in the EU and I choose to vote out. Looking at what I said it is additional, I'm just mentioning the scenario wouldn't make me likely to change my existing position.

'That would only make me more likely to vote out anyway'

I view the EU as a better future for us economically and it's not without merit so hence I give the idea of voting in some thought but my overall view is that they are politically stifling, take away our sovereignity, outsource democracy away from the local population, take top down policy approaches that they give no help in implementing (and in situations like public services simply don't care about the impact of their policies) not to mention there inability in situations like crimea, south china sea, syria etc. only highlights they don't really have much voice in the world to enhance ours. Politically it's a mess and I don't think a union should work in reverse and make us feel subjugated to something we should be joining for benefit. As many pro EU politicians have to regularly point out quite a few of the policies need a bit of work but it's had 40 years and it's only bungling up more and more. The economy can be brought back together and we might lose out a bit but overall it's better than becoming a political tool to a weak union that is seemingly more intent on breeding subservience within the EU than having much real impact in the world.

 

[Rilot]

I'm still thinking that a 'Leave' vote will result in the EU giving us some concessions and then us being asked to vote again.

 

[StriderX]

I'm still thinking that a 'Leave' vote will result in the EU giving us some concessions and then us being asked to vote again.

Still wouldn't change my mind, the EU is fundamentally in need of a top down review into everything it does and how it does it.

It needs a new goal.

 

[Six6siX]

No, my vote is based on the positives and negatives of two key points. Those are the economy and the political situations surrounding staying in the EU and I choose to vote out. Looking at what I said it is additional, I'm just mentioning the scenario wouldn't make me likely to change my existing position.

'That would only make me more likely to vote out anyway'

Fair enough It was just this wording:

It'd still act as a form of protest against the EU

That suggested it was a protest vote and would still be the case.

 

[Skunkworks]

I'm still thinking that a 'Leave' vote will result in the EU giving us some concessions and then us being asked to vote again.

Vote Leave, kill the EU, create a new trading bloc without the baggage, us in charge.

 

[Panos]

I received today a letter from Lord Sugar!
Begging me, as per wording, to vote for remain. And on the side it had people's comments like Branson, who spends his time to his private island in the Atlantic, while most his businesses are on the unregulated USA.
FYI Branson made his money, when Britain was out of the EU.

That made me even more determined than ever to vote for Leave.

And an FYI why Lord Sugar sends the letters

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/67...n-Sugar-Government-business-job-David-Cameron

 

[Six6siX]

I received today a letter from Lord Sugar!
Begging me, as per wording, to vote for remain. And on the side it had people's comments like Branson, who spends his time to his private island in the Atlantic, while most his businesses are on the unregulated USA.

That made me even more determined than ever to vote for Leave.

And an FYI why Lord Sugar sends the letters

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/67...n-Sugar-Government-business-job-David-Cameron

What were the points (if any) made in the letter? Other than 'begging' you to vote remain.

 

[Insanties_birth]

I'm still thinking that a 'Leave' vote will result in the EU giving us some concessions and then us being asked to vote again.

This is how I feel, the EU is also linked in with the migration argument now thanks to the migration crisis and freedom of movement so it's another way to protest the failure of the government to meet there target to lower migration. I don't care about the 10's of thousands number since we should take in what we need skills wise and some migration is linked with education which is temporary but beneficial for our universities due to higher tarriffs but we could do with some level of control, it's clear it's already lighting a fire unde labour to revisit the migration debate and to be honest I think the EU will rethink some stuff and possibly offer just a little more to keep us as well. It's hard to guarantee and I'm not banking on anything from them as they are not good at compromise overall but it'll help locally anyway and that's the best chance to get local peoples issues resolved anyway.