Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (June Poll)

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

  • Remain a member of the European Union

    Votes: 794 45.1%

  • Leave the European Union

    Votes: 965 54.9%
  • Total voters
    1,759
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Osprey said:
It's going to be a remain win on the back of the Jo Cox killing. Some of the undecided and less committed leave voters will make the difference.
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Agreed, you cannot open a paper or turn on the TV without hearing about it. It always ends in a referendum connection.

The murderer hasn't even been tried yet, who knows what his real reason was.
 
Phil99 said:
You're almost right. In fact, it's subtly different: it's tax payers living in Britain, which incidentally includes EU and non-EU migrants

https://fullfact.org/immigration/do-eu-immigrants-contribute-134-every-1-they-receive/

Interestingly, the studies cited in that link suggest that, at the moment, the only group that comes with a net cost to the UK tax payer is the group we have full control over :)
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My local dentist\doctors are refusing people from the EU because their country won't pay the bills.

The people from the EU who come here for a operation on the NHS are causing waiting queues.

"In what one MP described as a "scandalous failure", it has emerged that the UK pays more than £670m to EU countries for Brits' healthcare abroad, while claiming back less than £50m from the EU, even though there are significantly more EU citizens in the UK than UK citizens in the EU."

http://news.sky.com/story/1652305/nhs-scandal-as-uk-pays-millions-to-eu
 
deuse said:
My local dentist\doctors are refusing people from the EU because their country won't pay the bills.

The people from the EU who come here for a operation on the NHS are causing waiting queues.

"In what one MP described as a "scandalous failure", it has emerged that the UK pays more than £670m to EU countries for Brits' healthcare abroad, while claiming back less than £50m from the EU, even though there are significantly more EU citizens in the UK than UK citizens in the EU."

http://news.sky.com/story/1652305/nhs-scandal-as-uk-pays-millions-to-eu
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It's a scandalous failure of our own government/health system, I agree.

"We are paying our bills and they are not paying theirs - because the British NHS is not recharging them.
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Every argument about immigration I hear comes back down to our very own government.

Why do people think leaving the EU will make the same government change anything when they have the ability to do just that right now, but don't?
 
I felt a sense of desperation from the remain camp last week, since the killing of Jo Cox that seems to have disappeared...
 
The best option would to be in a reformed EU.

If we remain there will be a huge voice from the nearly 50% of voting Brexit supporters plus the leave Conservative MPs to keep the pressure of the UK government on Brussels.

How likely do you think further reform would be? There are also grass roots European organisations like DIEM25 pushing for more transparency.
 
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MookJong said:
The best option would be to be in a reformed EU.

If we remain there will be a huge voice from the nearly 50% of Brexit supporters plus the leave Conservative MPs to keep the pressure of the UK government on Brussels?

How likely do you think further reform would be? There are also grass roots European organisations like DIEM25 pushing for more transparency.
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Well my concern is that due to how poorly the campaigns have been run, a remain vote will now see the EUtake carte blanche to push on for further integration. After all, why reform when a flimsy majority (which either winning vote will surely be) have said to stay in? There's no real incentive there.

If, on the other hand, the UK had not been forced into this stupid situation we would have been in a much stronger position to negotiate along side the growing unrest across the EU.

The irony of it is that Farage, in forcing this referendum, might well get further EU integration if we vote to remain. It is, at least, a distinct possibility.
 
MookJong said:
The best option would be to be in a reformed EU.

If we remain there will be a huge voice from the nearly 50% of Brexit supporters plus the leave Conservative MPs to keep the pressure of the UK government on Brussels?

How likely do you think further reform would be? There are also grass roots European organisations like DIEM25 pushing for more transparency.
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Wasn't this tried by Cameron? He came back with very little even though Britain's membership was at stake.
 
Metallifux said:
Last few times I have heard it it has been quantified as the gross figure then backed up by the net one.
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But it's not even a gross figure, it's a figure thrown up at an early point in the calculation. The gross figure is about £100bn or so lower.
 
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