Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (June Poll)

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

  • Remain a member of the European Union

    Votes: 794 45.1%
  • Leave the European Union

    Votes: 965 54.9%

  • Total voters
    1,759
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Umm, no? Because like I said, if she wanted to do that she would have campaigned for Remain to begin with.

You see there are other explanations than the paranoid ones you have.

A bit like Corbyn, he has been very quiet on the Remain side because, imo, he personally doesn't want to Remain but that is his position being in charge of the Labour party, so he isn't putting a lot of effort into it.

Maybe Warsi was a Leaver, but she obviously didn't like who she was having to cosy up with, so hasn't been that pro-active. Now with that poster being the last in a long list of things that have upset her about the Leave campaign, she has finally had enough and changed sides.

Or she is a super secret plant from the start, just biding her time to leap out and announce she was changing sides at the end to put a final blow into Leaves camp :D

I read Umm, no? and got immediatley bored.

Oh yea, and see what, like others have posted on here that 'they know' the vote will be rigged and that we won't be 'allowed' to leave

They use pencils don't you know for the vote...I mean, all those EU shills are going to be behind the scenes rubbing out the Leave X's and replacing them with Remain X's :D

I think it's you guys who need to get your head out of the delusional world it lives in

Same again.
 
I must admit I almost spat my coffee out with this Baroness Warsi thing.

Good Morning Britain with Peers Morgan were describing her as a big hitter. At the time I must admit I never heard of her.

Then to hear at lunchtime that the Leave camp had no idea she was even supposedly on their side was hilarious.

I suppose she fits in well with Europe and politics, another person nobody knows who the **** they are or what they do.

Correct sir.
 
Yes I believe it will be resolved, after about 10 years, which seems to be average length of time to negotiate a Trade deal.

Nate


We'll likely negotiate from within EFTA, under which we'll have no economic disadvantages compared to being in the EU.

When we leave, its going to cause all sorts of chaos.

Ireland might well leave too - seeing as 70% of their trade is with the UK, and they're just as eurosceptic as we are, and feel pretty disgruntled with the EU after the austerity and lisbon shambles.

The Netherlands are looking more eurosceptic than ever, and will probably hold a vote when we leave as might Denmark. These could well join with the UK in negotiating our relationship with the EU.

In fact, take away ireland alone, and our proportion of trade that we do with the EU drops dramatically. Our trade is mostly with Ireland, France, Germany and the Netherlands.
 
So you don't think an unusually quiet MP (Warsi) has just been rolled out to say what she has said to suddenly pull some more ethnic voters because the remain camp are getting scared?

It is politics smart arse, anything can and will happen and anything can and will be said by either side, especially today and the few days before voting.

Take your head out the sand.

IT'S ALL A CONSPIRACY!!

Here an article from May where she confirmed to a paper she was a Brexit supporter;

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news...ff-uk-coast-says-yorkshire-academic-1-7938724

And here's one from two weeks ago in the Sun where she was also described as an exiter but was already uncomfortable with Farage's language.

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12425...putting-brit-women-at-risk-of-sexual-assault/

I suppose though this was all planned from the start, right?
 
Source: Daily Telegraph.

"Migration watch UK today claims that migrants cost Britain up to £17 billion more than they pay in taxes.
The campaign group says migrants cost the Exchequer £46.5 million a day, reflecting the fact that migrants who arrived in the sixties are now pensioners with higher health care costs.
Migrants from the eu cost £1.2 billion last year,according to the research, which is calculated by deducting the cost of benefits and public services such as the NHS from tax payments."
 
You think that will not be immediately resolved? After all we are the 2nd biggest buyer of German cars. After the motherland itself.

Can't imagine the Germans finding that demand elsewhere?

Trade deals are in everyone's best interests whether we are in or out.

This video has been linked to loads, but here it is at the relevant time for Trade issues and why it's not as simple as you think it is https://youtu.be/USTypBKEd8Y?t=998
 
We'll likely negotiate from within EFTA, under which we'll have no economic disadvantages compared to being in the EU.

When we leave, its going to cause all sorts of chaos.

In fact, take away ireland alone, and our proportion of trade that we do with the EU drops dramatically. Our trade is mostly with Ireland, France, Germany and the Netherlands.

And Denmark will be in the pig manure, they are too reliant on UK trade.
 
We'll likely negotiate from within EFTA, under which we'll have no economic disadvantages compared to being in the EU.

When we leave, its going to cause all sorts of chaos.

Ireland might well leave too - seeing as 70% of their trade is with the UK, and they're just as eurosceptic as we are, and feel pretty disgruntled with the EU after the austerity and lisbon shambles.

The Netherlands are looking more eurosceptic than ever, and will probably hold a vote when we leave as might Denmark. These could well join with the UK in negotiating our relationship with the EU.

In fact, take away ireland alone, and our proportion of trade that we do with the EU drops dramatically. Our trade is mostly with Ireland, France, Germany and the Netherlands.

Not a hope Ireland will leave - Ireland is currently the most positive country about the EU, in the EU, not eurosceptic at all. EDIT:- Source

Also EFTA will be politically impossible after a leave vote. There is no politician on earth that could sell any deal with freedom of movement to the public in the event of leaving.

Nate
 
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Been a confirmed outer ever since Brown signed the Lisbon Treat 8 years ago, thereby accelerating the EU into the bureaucratic monstrosity it is today. It has become one hugo quango full of overpaid politicians thinking up ways to protect and further German business. The bureaucrats in Brussels don't care about small UK business (<£1m turnover), which make up 96% of all companies. And as a business owner and employer this is my perspective on the issue. Either way I'll be glad to see the back of this referendum so we can get back to work and get on with our lives!
 
This video has been linked to loads, but here it is at the relevant time for Trade issues and why it's not as simple as you think it is https://youtu.be/USTypBKEd8Y?t=998

Thanks for the efforts. I will have a look when I have sound.

However I never claimed it was easy? Just think the scaremongering (from both sides) is excessive. I think too many countries have too much to lose whatever the outcome, so why would they cut off their nose to spite their faces so to speak?

I get perhaps they want to make an example of us if we do leave, but I think they will still try to make an example of us even if we chose to stay... which normally creates discomfort amongst members of groups that employ such tactics. With talk of a Frexit on the cards I think the EU has to tread fairly carefully. It might be able to withstand a Brexit, but a Brexit and a Frexit? It will start to wobble big time.
 
Oh no that's it, we should stay because they can't drive there cars around Europe.

This really effects my life and my children's life.



Anybody who is into modifying cars for improved performance, or whose business is based upon such work should be voting OUT as the EU would just love to have a blanket ban on modified cars. Given motorsport engineering and smaller businesses modifying and selling parts for performance road cars is a huge industry in the UK they would be suicidal to vote to Remain.
 
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