Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (June Poll)

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

  • Remain a member of the European Union

    Votes: 794 45.1%

  • Leave the European Union

    Votes: 965 54.9%
  • Total voters
    1,759
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Chris Wilson said:
I ask again, what happens to VAT paid and payable to and from current EU states if we leave the EU?

I'll leave it 12 hours before asking YET AGAIN what status the children "refugees" in Germany will acquire, after their birth, I am left with the statement that most of the parents will remain "refugees" with no chance of becoming EU citizens. Zero information as to how long for, given their sheer number, and what their children will be, status wise....
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Very few countries have birth right citizenship so a child born in Germany to refugee parents does not become a citizen.

I don't know why you need to 'ask again ' - this information is freely available.
 
Chris Wilson said:
I ask again, what happens to VAT paid and payable to and from current EU states if we leave the EU?
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Seems like the kind of question your side should be answering to me? Or are we back to Leave and get this mystery box? I would guess that it would become like other countries.

I'll leave it 12 hours before asking YET AGAIN what status the children "refugees" in Germany will acquire, after their birth, I am left with the statement that most of the parents will remain "refugees" with no chance of becoming EU citizens. Zero information as to how long for, given their sheer number, and what their children will be, status wise....
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Or you could take 10 seconds to Google it and find out yourself.
 
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Chris Wilson said:
Not sure, no one I have asked seemed to know. Would it be an immediate change as of the day after the referendum, should we get a Leave vote, or protracted?
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Nothing will change immediately, that's the point of article 50 and has been discussed at length here.

Also remember that the referendum isn't legally binding and the Government needs to first notify the EU that they are intending to leave.
 
Chris Wilson said:
Not sure, no one I have asked seemed to know. Would it be an immediate change as of the day after the referendum, should we get a Leave vote, or protracted?
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Our exit process is governed by Article 50 of the Lisbon Treaty. Nothing will change on the 24th June, Cameron will simply give the notification to leave. We then continue to be subject to the treaties until we leave, most likely in a negotiated manner, but possibly by simply being dumped out on June 24th 2018, or by the UK parliament passing an act removing the EU from UK law.
 
Quick question, I know we had a timetable recently with a few video / tv events leading up to the referendum. Can it be reposted? I'm looking mainly to just watch presentations / debates / question sessions rather than reading news articles from tabloids at the moment so wouldn't mind seeing a few more to watch before I make my final decision.
 
Burnsy2023 said:
To summarise, because getting rid of trade tariffs are easy, but dealing with regulatory barriers is much harder. Also, we don't have the civil service capacity to negotiate more than a couple of trade deals at any one time and increasing that would be expensive and time consuming.

Also, I highly doubt there is any substantial will for France to exit the EU.
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Yeah it's not like they've suffered horrendous terrorist attacks partly due to their inability to correctly monitor who's coming into their country
 
Moses said:
Only if they activate it straight away, which obviously isn't a forgone conclusion. I'd suggest pre-negoitiation might be sensible... so negoitiate and say you're working out the deal for when you leave. Otherwise you start a two year timer and give all the other states a strong bargaining position (they can just say, 'lol, you'd better take the deal or on the cut off date you're out of the club without one. Take it or leave it, yo'.
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It should be pointed out that the Article 50 negotiation isn't a negotiation for the future relationship with the EU, it is solely for the orderly exit of a member.

Negotiations for the Future Relationship are separate and will take a lot longer.

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Moses said:
Only if they activate it straight away, which obviously isn't a forgone conclusion. I'd suggest pre-negoitiation might be sensible... so negoitiate and say you're working out the deal for when you leave. Otherwise you start a two year timer and give all the other states a strong bargaining position (they can just say, 'lol, you'd better take the deal or on the cut off date you're out of the club without one. Take it or leave it, yo'.
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Cameron has repeatedly said that he will trigger article 50 the day after the referendum and I believe he will; possibly immediately before tendering his resignation. He's said it publicly too many times to go back and on it, and doing anything else would instantly provoke the rage of large sections of the Leave camp.

I also don't think the rest of Europe would engage in "pre-negotiation" any more than the UK government was willing to engage in "pre-negotiation" with the Scottish government prior to the referendum. If we're to leave, we need to trigger article 50 soon.
 
Nate--IRL-- said:
From what I've read it will take a Herculean effort to do this, given how intertwined the EU is in the legal system.
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It depends on what you mean by this. Removing EU regulations would be insanely complex but I don't think we'll do that. I think we'll "snapshot" all current EU regulations at the exit date and bring them into UK law, and also all prior EU court judgements pertaining to the UK, and leave them as they are until challenged or changed. This is similar to how other common law countries have diverged their law from UK law.

Removing the EU's authority is a relatively simple matter - at least for England - but the devolution treaties may be tricky and the Irish peace deal is going to be an absolute nightmare.
 
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