Soldato
Good honest article on Boris always had my suspicions.
http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=85992
http://www.eureferendum.com/blogview.aspx?blogno=85992
Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (March Poll)
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Soldato
Yes you still will but it will be points based system depending on how much cash you have you will NO LONGER have the right to live there.
Unless the UK sign up to the EEA and freedom of movement of people in the EEA as they do at present (btw just in case you don't know the EEA IS NOT THE EU)
Oh and you might have to find houses for some on the lower income Ex-pats who currently live there but may find they no longer have the points (money) to stay
still that's what the majority want isn't it! Isn't it?
Caporegime
Yes you still will but it will be points based system depending on how much cash you have you will NO LONGER have the right to live there.
Unless the UK sign up to the EEA and freedom of movement of people in the EEA as they do at present (btw just in case you don't know the EEA IS NOT THE EU)
Oh and you might have to find houses for some on the lower income Ex-pats who currently live there but may find they no longer have the points (money) to stay
The immigration system following a Brexit is still TBD - it's true I favour a points-based system at the moment however no-one has said the EU would reciprocate that, or indeed that such a system would be in the UK's negotiation wish list. You realise however that British retirees who go abroad generally have a lot of money and don't join the workforce so are pretty much welcomed around the world - even the USA makes it easy to retire to Florida.
I think it'd be pretty crummy of the EU to start forcibly evicting and deporting UK citizens who are already living in the EU. While we in the UK could retaliate and do the same for EU citizens living in the UK who don't meet the new criteria, I'd hope we wouldn't because of the UK's tradition of fairness and human rights.
Man of Honour
It would be good to gauge opinion again.
Are you going to put up a new poll at the beginning of each month?
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It would be good to have a monthly poll up until the actual vote.
Just to see if opinion changes much here, or if closer to the time more people actually vote.
Just to see if opinion changes much here, or if closer to the time more people actually vote.
Man of Honour
And with the previous months' results at the end of each month as part of the OP, so you can see at a glance what the trend is/has been since the referendum was announced / discussed.
Soldato
Who cares? They aren't going to say no to money. It much like the talk by the remain people that think everything is going to be slapped with large tariffs and we will cease to trade with Europe. We know a lot about getting trade deals and the US has proven that deals are easily achievable. The US not just with Europe but also in Asia create many tariff free trade deals. It is a mutual agreement. Germany definitely would not want tariffs on their cars coming to the UK so there are many opportunities to use to make it tariff free. Free movement of people will end unless you are highly skilled which is the case if you want to go to any other country in the world. Free trade will happen. UK will avoid losing its sovereign rights to Brussels. Brexit will be a great opportunity for the UK as they can actually start to help the economy rather than watching it erode way by the EU. The EU stifles innovation and prevents countries stepping in to help industries (like the recent Redcar steel plant, blame the EU as we had to watch it sink).
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You're welcome to jump under the bus, just don't insist on taking us all with you.
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As a definition of naivety that interview takes some beating. Doubt the NUT will be using it in class though, somehow
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-business-35892818
The SNP managed it in Scotland. Something tells me the Conservatives wouldn't step in regardless of any rules over what you do or how you do it.
The electoral commission hasn't even chosen the official remain and leave campaigns yet. You won't hear a cohesive argument from either side until then.
For me the, stay campaign is very negative.
Soldato
Status-quo campaigns are generally uninspiring. Politicians like to campaign on change, because only change has the potential to radically improve peoples lives.
Change campaigns oversell the possible benefits, whilst underplaying the possible risks. The opposite is also true. However, the later is always going to be seen as more negative that the former.
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http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/mar/26/nhs-under-threat-from-brexit
That is just one example of scaremongering, it isn't hard to find others from the stay campaign.
Yet this list, which is factual has been branded as scaremongering.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics...t-of-serious-crimes-by-eu-citizens-in-britain
Not from the designated campaigns... but we've already heard the best arguments, no? What magically hat will things be drawn out of after the official designation?
As I said, I would expect a cohesive argument rather than a scattergun of opinions.
Caporegime
Another poll from Ipsos Mori showing a remain lead of 49%-41% but with an interesting subpoint: if you take into account likelyhood to vote (and take respondents at their direct word) you end up with just a 2% remain lead.
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