Poll: The EU Referendum: How Will You Vote? (May Poll)

[Tunney]

God bless the EU.

 

[robfosters]

God bless the EU.

Only reason I watched Eurotrash was to see a bit of fanny. I'm sure that even if we leave the EU, I'll still be able to see a bit of fanny.

 

[Hades]

I'm calling it here. Announced by Cameron tomorrow... "Brexit would mean much less fanny..."

 

[Mr Jack]

Great new Boris speech

If you don't fancy watching a 40 minute video, the transcript is here.

 

[Skunkworks]

Wait ing for a more reliable source, but:

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepag...nd-he-let-them-explosive-claims-from-IDS.html

 

[Mr Jack]

Wait ing for a more reliable source, but:

Man in negotiations in had to compromise with people he was negotiating with shocker?

Cameron has been breath-takingly incompetent in Europe from before he was even Prime Minister. It's no great surprise that he had to scale back his ambitions to something with a faint hint of reality. Freedom of movement is one of the fundamental grounding principles of the EU; the other 27 nations aren't going to abandon it because Cameron made a silly promise he can't keep.

In reality, the fact that Cameron had the sense to run his demands past some of the other EU leaders before embarrassing himself on the international stage is to his credit. It shows at least a basic understanding of international diplomacy.

(Incidentally: is it IDS or the Sun you're describing as an unreliable source? Or both?)

 

[[TFU] Thegoon84]

Ya know what.... I was an in as i've said. But all i hear from the government is why we should be scared if we leave. not once have i heard the reasons to say!

Sod it i am voting out! Just concerned at a right wing agenda popping up in the mean time!

 

[[TW]Fox]

Ya know what.... I was an in as i've said. But all i hear from the government is why we should be scared if we leave. not once have i heard the reasons to say!

The much maligned leaflet was full of them..

 

[Narj]

Sod it i am voting out! Just concerned at a right wing agenda popping up in the mean time!

Left or Right Wing doesn't matter. There are equally valid arguments on both "sides" for and against in all honesty and it's a matter of perspective.

I'm now convinced that CMD is secretly a Brexiter.

I've also had a pang of anguish given a recent trip to France & Switzerland re: leaving the EU but I still think the inevitable inconveniences are worth it for having a locally accountable, mostly transparent democracy that we can actually do something about come election time, not to mention the bonus of getting away from the train wreck that the EU is likely to become 5 years down the line. Sad but I think the EU could be a great thing, I just don't like the political and fiscal union parts of it.

 

[413x]

It's Cameron a secret Out campaigner ? He seems to be doing a good job of turning undecideds to his cause
I've swung from out to undecided to out again

 

[Woden]

Ya know what.... I was an in as i've said. But all i hear from the government is why we should be scared if we leave. not once have i heard the reasons to say!

Sod it i am voting out! Just concerned at a right wing agenda popping up in the mean time!

My issue with the Brexiteers is that not only is it just as much scaremongering (UK will be forced to turn over our military to a muslamic EU army and house 5.6 trillion refugees), but it's the Scottish independence campaign all over again.

A lot of hopes and promises with nothing to back them up.

 

[Uther]

And on the flip-side, some people refuse to believe anything the government says even if it's as simple as 'Tomorrow is Tuesday' simply because it's the Government.

If the government told me water was wet I would still want to check for myself...
Surely you can't believe the **** coming out of Camerons mouth lately?

 

[Zethor]

If the government told me water was wet I would still want to check for myself...
Surely you can't believe the **** coming out of Camerons mouth lately?

The Government's stance is similar to that of almost every other world leader, including now even NATO leadership.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-nato-idUSKCN0Y028V

I suppose the whole world (minus Putin and Trump) is conspiring to 'do Cameron a favour', eh?

 

[Uther]

I suppose the whole world (minus Putin and Trump) is conspiring to 'do Cameron a favour', eh?

No, but they're certainly thinking about their own interests, and couldn't care less about the interests of the UK. And why should they.

 

[[TW]Fox]

No, but they're certainly thinking about their own interests, and couldn't care less about the interests of the UK. And why should they.

But if its in, say, Japan's interests for us to be in the EU we benefit from that when the result is Japanese car factories in the UK, no?

 

[PlacidCasual]

I'm not sure IDS's intervention really tells us anything new, the treaty for the new reformed relationship with the EU is practically homeopathic. I'm actually slightly concerned that our commitments not to impede Euro integration might give away more than our meagre gains.

 

[Chris Wilson]

This breaking news may do the remain campaign no great favours :

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016...bar-seriously-injures-four-at-munich-station/

 

[Zethor]

No, but they're certainly thinking about their own interests, and couldn't care less about the interests of the UK. And why should they.

Our allies don't care about our interests, our own government doesn't care either. Here's an idea(quote):

If one person tells you you're a horse , they are crazy. If three people tell you you're a horse, there's conspiracy afoot. If ten people tell you you're a horse, it's time to buy a saddle.

 

[Efour]

This breaking news may do the remain campaign no great favours :

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016...bar-seriously-injures-four-at-munich-station/

Yeah Iean leaving the eu will Deffo protect the UK from a stabby nutters

 

[413x]

Agree, of course USA etc want us in Europe. No body wants instability, which will obviously be caused by out. Not to say it will be as bad as what people are saying.