Poll: The EU Referendum: What Will You Vote?

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?

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Mynight said:
This is conservatives were talking about maybe he's supposed to fail in his negotiations to try and tip the balance to an out vote. Thus allowing them to enact whatever diabolical plans they have without EU interference.
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I think Cameron's naturally pretty pro-EU, as are his inner circle, but he's allowed himself to be outflanked by the Tory's Euroskeptic wing repeatedly as he lacks the steel to stand up to them.

Leaving the EU would let them slash worker's rights but the really nasty stuff is subject the ECHR and leaving that is a separate issue to leaving the EU and I don't see much prospect of that happening despite the sabre rattling. There's still too many sensible Conservatives left to push it through on his narrow majority.
 
Judgeneo said:
I'm soon to go through the process of getting a partner visa for my GF. Its cheaper for me to apply for an Irish passport (Grandparents from there) and apply for an Irish partner visa that it would be to apply for the British partner visa alone. Its a joke.
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Not only that but thanks to Theresa May, you might even find she has more rights to come here as a result after the Tories made it so that non-UK EU residents have greater right to bring their partners to live in the UK than UK residents!
 
A couple more polls out from Ipsos MORI and ComRes, both showing big leads (56-35 and 58-32) for the Remain side. Interestingly, these are both telephone polls (which did better at the general election) where the recent online polling from YouGov, ComRes and Survation are showing a narrow Remain lead (43-40) but with some recent polls showing a Leave lead. Another interesting comparison is between a general question on Europe and the actual referendum question which shows that the actual question gives a slightly larger Remain lead.

Given what happened at the General election it's tempting to ignore this kind of polling data entirely, especially since there's no baseline with referenda to work against, but polling has (mostly) proven a good - if not perfect - guide to outcomes. Mind you, one of the major causes of inaccuracy in the General seems to have been a failure to poll older voters and since older voters skew Tory and also skew Euroskeptic there is good reason to think perhaps these polls will suffer from the same issues.
 
I do wonder though, how is "leave" a neutral term (leave certainly has some emotion attached)?

Wouldn't "Stop being a member of the European Union" be more neutral?
 
I really don't think the average person, myself included, can make an informed decision about this. In the forum poll here I voted for leave, but I shouldn't have.

I'm leaning more towards the idea that we're damned if we do and damned if we don't. Our standard of living is going to fall either way, because of globalisation. You can't stop the poor nations becoming richer in a global economy (even ignoring the ethics of trying to), and as we increasingly compete with emerging economies, and growing world population, I think this country has peaked a while ago.

In other words, in or out, I'm pretty sure it's all downhill from here.

My primary concern is the continual increase in supply of labour. Whether that's from the EU or from India does not matter. The supply of labour is increasing and so is competition for jobs. Either way, we're ****ed.
 
StriderX said:
I'm simply voting out because it's hilarious and unlikely to actually occur.
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Lol good point. Even if we were out we would still be in the EU in all but name as we would have trade with EU partners still. Besides if they don't get the result they want in likelihood they will just hve another vote down the road and another oneuntil they get the result they want.
 
Well, Cast Iron Dave was told he couldn't cut benefits claimed by EU nationals last night, so he's managed to get UK PLC zero concessions in the last 6 years.

Time to stop being the EU's cashcow and seeing how the Germans like paying for it on their own.
 
Mynight said:
Not that I care about the numbers but doesn't that response fall foul of the freedom of information act?
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No, it can be refused if considered currently "active" or sensitive information.

Can also be refused if it will cost more than £450 (£600 for central government) to find and extract the information.
 
Terminal_Boy said:
LOLDEMOCRACY.
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Seems sensible to me. Why allow release of information that could prejudice an on-going investigation for example?

In this particular case it could be seen as an abuse of legislation sure, but that's always going to happen. The reasons for the overall legislation seem to be pretty clear, and necessary, to me though.
 
platypus said:
No, it can be refused if considered currently "active" or sensitive information.

Can also be refused if it will cost more than £450 (£600 for central government) to find and extract the information.
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Argh right. I thought it was anything unless it was classified or personal. My bad.
 
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