Poll: The EU Referendum: What Will You Vote?

Should the United Kingdom remain a member of the European Union or leave the European Union?


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Do you not think our infrastructure is under enough strain as it is? Or was that a veiled attempt at trying to suggest something else?

I don't do veiled also not really sure what the something else is.

As long as people pay taxes then the infrastructure should increase. If it doesn't then we don't have enough net earners or the governments mismanaging funds.
 
You will be very much disappointed if you think voting out will reduce immigration.

The government target is around 50,000 net per year. That can only be done with border controls that focus on skills to entry and doesn't discrimate against those from outside Europe.
 
There is no hope.

Instead of the condescending edit and reply why not say why?

As far as I can tell turkeys biggest problems of joining the EU is their links with isis(like a few hundred Londoners) and rather a different culture. They're a strong economy aren't they?
 
Because there are lots of poor people that would flood over to Europe, legally, making problems that we already have, worse.

Also it borders some dodgy places and if you had a Turkish passport you'd have a European passport. Keep them as a buffer state.
 
They've been reforming it for decades.

It's now in the worst state it's ever been.

I think with the current debate/referendum there is room for reform that hasn't been on the table in the past. But even without reform, the principle of the EU would be a net loss for the UK if we exit.
 
As far as I can tell turkeys biggest problems of joining the EU is their links with isis(like a few hundred Londoners) and rather a different culture. They're a strong economy aren't they?

Turkey has too many human rights and democracy issues to be admitted into the EU any time soon.
 
As far as I can tell turkeys biggest problems of joining the EU is their links with isis(like a few hundred Londoners) and rather a different culture. They're a strong economy aren't they?

Depends on how you define strong, their growth is below the UKs at the moment and they have GDP per person on par with the poorest countries in Europe. They have a radically culture, record on human rights, and (relatively overtly) corrupt political class - The current president has been accused of election rigging and of running an increasingly authoritarian regime, prior to the EU going cap in hand to him on immigration issues, the west was very critical of him.


Turkey currently acts a relatively friendly buffer between the middle east, the baltic states, and the west, admittance into the EU would turn that buffer into a border.


Oh, and only around 5% of Turkey is actually in Europe.

No issues at all.
 
I would be fine with the EU, but immigration is a big issue for me. The powers that be want immigration as they can cut spending on the training of Nurses, teachers etc and get this talent from free from another nation that has spent money training them up.

It is purely greed that want us to stay in the EU, greed that has twisted the EU into a massive horrible beast that can no longer change or react to the the will of the people in general.

**** em lets get out while we still can.
 
Don't exaggerate; this isn't a decision as to whether I go to the shops today or not.

I am happy to make a decision on something if I have data available. I will also make a decision if I don't have the data if there is not someone who is better placed to make the decision, after all as that is 'life'. However for this decision, there are people far better qualified than my self who would have a much more informed judgement on the decision.

I will doing some thorough googling over the coming months.



This contradicts Deuse's view and surely is an oversimplification of the matter?

I would prefer an independent, unbiased professioal / qualified body to make a much more informed decision for us although this is impossible

Because people aren't children.

You cant just make desicions for them you have to give them the choice.

Then its up to us to face the consequences of our choice.


But at least we will have chosen
 
I was there regularly for years until September, never had a problem. Perhaps I'm just more tourist trusting?:p
I live next to Westminster Bridge and there's nothing I'd be particularly concerned about, but those three cup peeps are there. It's a scam game but I don't think they are directly stealing. The most annoying thing about them is that they block the path!

That said, this is the sort of immigration that we don't want.
 
Because people aren't children.

You cant just make desicions for them you have to give them the choice.

Then its up to us to face the consequences of our choice.


But at least we will have chosen

Except democracy produces results that aren't fair, and the minority, no matter how significant have to pay for the consequences they don't vote for as well. I don't think the general population is well informed enough to be making a decision like this.
 
The same sob story was mooted when Romania and Bulgaria joined. The populations of these countries didn't suddenly turn up in the UK, what's different about Turkey?

They did in my town! Nothing against them but driving up the housing/rent market and jamming up doctors appointments is getting irritating.
 
The same sob story was mooted when Romania and Bulgaria joined. The populations of these countries didn't suddenly turn up in the UK, what's different about Turkey?

Well approximately 200,000 people from those two countries alone did come here after 2014 - that's more than the government's target of cutting immigration to the "tens of thousands" on its own. In any case, wasn't the argument from the regressive left that it was different this time because Romanian/Bulgarian people didn't have any links with the UK unlike Polish people (though tbf, no-one knew of the Polish link until 1m Poles came over here). There are plenty of links between the UK and Turkey.
 
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The same sob story was mooted when Romania and Bulgaria joined. The populations of these countries didn't suddenly turn up in the UK, what's different about Turkey?

If you care to check how many of these are now here you will find that you're talking rubbish.
 
Stay in and reform it.

And this is the result...well done

EU deal would mean hundreds of thousands British workers would miss out on tax-credits

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...est-Britons-banned-receiving-tax-credits.html

Honestly i just put my head in my hands when i read this story, i just couldn't believe what i was reading, so the renegotiations have resulted in the removal of tax credits to the very poorest in the UK, and this is the EU you want to be a part of? No thanks, time to leave before the EU tears itself apart and takes us with it.

Has Cameron just handed the Out campaign a win all wrapped up with a bow on top?
 
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