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The first "proper" Kepler news Fri 17th Feb?

haha yeah i did have nvidia before the 7970 and literally showed off metro 2033 on max settings to about 20 people and they were all like ''oh my god!!!! gaming has moved up a level!!! this is like real life!!! jesus look i can see the dust blowing all around me in front of my eyes i want to touch it!!!!'' The 3d effect on that game is just unlike anything i've seen cinema/3ds/any other 3dvision game. Just incredible.

graphics isn't that important, it's the quality of the shooter.....Crysis being the prime example of this
 
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Whether its mid end or whatever doesnt matter really, youre not going to get a faster nvidia card until september by the looks of it. Nvidia have confirmed this is the flagship card, so all those waiting for big kepler are in for a long wait by all accounts.

and by then AMD will have another one out, so it looks like Nvidia have goofed here.... they will always be playing catch up.

they should only have released a new card if it was way more powerful... or, the same but miles cheaper, but definitely not similar and more expensive

the economy has collapsed too much in the last year, for this cheap trick to work anymore, i'd rather settle for less power and less money than a card that's only 8FPS faster, but over 100 quid more!
 
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I am going to repeat the following post again!

What do you chaps think? If you look at the power consumption chart,it really looks like the boost only works for a very short time and then drops. Or is it an artifact of the scene rendered??

I was on XS and just saw this post about the power consumption chart and the variable clockspeeds:

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums...orce-GTX-780&p=5070263&viewfull=1#post5070263

What do you chaps think?? Is the boost temporary??

Another thing which might be useful to look at is the test systems used.

Will Kepler gain more from PCI-E 3.0 than Tahiti?? How would if fare on a PCI-E 2.0 based system and will any review sites use a PCI-E 2.0 system??
 
No they cannot. 1200MHz is possible for many 7900's, but it is certainly not easy and far from defacto. 1125-1150MHz is probably much more realistic. 1150MHz may also be unralistic for GK104, but it may give an indication of top-end limits (like 1200 is for the 7900's).

+1

I hope the OC is that, pretty much as standard on the 680. This will be the reason I either buy or wait.
 
and by then AMD will have another one out, so it looks like Nvidia have goofed here.... they will always be playing catch up.

they should only have released a new card if it was way more powerful... or, the same but miles cheaper, but definitely not similar and more expensive

the economy has collapsed too much in the last year, for this cheap trick to work anymore, i'd rather settle for less power and less money than a card that's only 8FPS faster, but over 100 quid more!

Come June time, cards will be cheaper (probably)

I will not kick off about the high prices, purely because it is new tech from both AMD and Nvidia. You either buy it or don't buy it.
 
I am utter crap at overclocking, but the best I managed to get out of my 7970 without crashing 3Dmark11 was 1000mhz. It is completely stable there.

I haven't touched the voltage.
 
checking the 680SLI 3DM11 results out again, it seem 680SLI at 1150 core is a good match for 7970 at 1075 core.

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Sounds like you got a really poor chip. Theres some 7970's out there that dont need any voltage to reach 1200mhz.
It is luck of the draw, but if you don't overclock it doesn't really matter. Other things such as PSU and cooling make a difference, but 7970 performance @ stock is more than enough for most mortals.
 
checking the 680SLI 3DM11 results out again, it seem 680SLI at 1150 core is a good match for 7970 at 1075 core.

The clock is 7% higher for a performance bump of 3%. But the 7970 memory clock is OCed really high th ere. 6600MHz.

I wonder whether the GPU score is. Not as useful to compare overall system score.
 
checking the 680SLI 3DM11 results out again, it seem 680SLI at 1150 core is a good match for 7970 at 1075 core.
Clock for clock both cards appear to be almost identical. There is likely to be zero noticeable difference between them. Sure, some games will favor the red or green team, but overall it will be a tie. GK104 may have taken two months longer to arrive, but perhaps that delay was spent on R&D, and that maybe why a card with seemingly inferior specs performs so well?
 
Now it's time to see how this new shader design compares to previous designs in GPGPU loads. 1536 cores which operate barely faster than 512 in CUDA is gonna suck for some of us who want to use it.
 
Sucks to be immortal right now

:D

I obey the law. No God shall interfere in the affairs of man, unless the Titans are released. If we are to expect mankind to have faith in us, then we must have faith in them. We must allow them to use their own free will.
 
I don't want it to match it, I want it to beat/smash it:(

The only hope I can see now is if its cheaper than a 7970.

My thoughts exactly, I'm not comfortable paying 400+ for a card that really is not that much better than a 580, yes nice design regarding power draw and such but I expected much better performance. Then again this is the mid part boosted to high end status.
 
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My thoughts exactly, I'm not conformable paying 400+ for a card that really is not that much better than a 580, yes nice design regarding power draw and such but I expected much better performance. Then again this is the mid part boosted to high end status.

Nor I, but the GTX 680 will be priced based on 7970 performance. The 7970 should've never been priced as it was. There is no reason to price it against the GTX 580 because that is old EOL tech and the prices are the old prices. But AMD went ahead and did it, perhaps because they felt they couldn't match sales with production, or they just wanted to rip us off, and NVIDIA followed suit. You're not going to find the GTX 680 for cheaper than a 7970. Not until AMD drops they price.

And drop the price they should, but anyone expecting 680s to come out magically priced much lower than similarly performing current-gen AMD is living in cloud cuckoo land.
 
The score when overclocked... is virtually identical to the 7970. But the 7xxx series has some problems with Crossfire, while the 680 is possibly going to be bottlenecked at 1440/1600p due to only 2GB VRAM. And based upon the Euro pricing it's going to cost... exactly the same.

This reminds me of when I walked through ASDA the other day and noticed that virtually all the washing powder was priced exactly the same... to the penny. Where is the meaningful choice? Where is the competition?
 
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