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The first "proper" Kepler news Fri 17th Feb?
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Let me get this straight.
The 680 card released soon from Nvidia is actually a lower spec card which was originally the 660 or something, and for whatever reason Nvidia decided to remame it to a 680 and placed it deliberately to compete with AMD's 7970?
If this all true then why are people calling it a failure already? The real top end simgle gpu card hasn't been released by Nvidia yet.
The 680 card released soon from Nvidia is actually a lower spec card which was originally the 660 or something, and for whatever reason Nvidia decided to remame it to a 680 and placed it deliberately to compete with AMD's 7970?
If this all true then why are people calling it a failure already? The real top end simgle gpu card hasn't been released by Nvidia yet.
Caporegime
I found another HD7970 3GB score from the same website with a 1.235GHZ overclock using the same settings(1920X1080,4XAA,very high settings):
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/powercolor_lcs_hd7970/6.htm
The RAM was running at 1.76GHZ though and the HD7970 scored 111FPS.
The scores look similar but I am wondering how much the 1GHZ overclock is helping the overclocked HD7970 3GB at 1920X1080.
Caporegime
http://www.forum-3dcenter.org/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=9215593&postcount=6815
Stock 7970+2600K = 1439 at the same settings.
Stock 7970+2600K = 1439 at the same settings.
Soldato
That's the general belief, based on the GPU code number (GK104) as historically the Gx104s have been the GTX x60 cores.
The theory goes that nVidia were surprised by the somewhat lacklustre performance of 7970 (at their 925MHz stock speeds) and realised they could match the performance of AMD's flagship with their mid range product. Add to that that nVidia were seemingly having big troubles with the Kepler flagship part (GK100 was scrapped to be replaced by GK110, which isn't scheduled for release until later this year, a LONG way behind AMD) and it appears they've decided to rebrand the mid range part as the new flagship (it seems to compete well) giving them some breathing space to get the kinks ironed out of GK110 and come back later in the year with a GTX780(?) and blow the socks off of everyone.
Mine from 5 hours ago
Stock 7970 i7 with 2 cores disabled at stock speed 3.4ghz (best I could do!)
Not going to bother with the overclocked results as they were at least 10fps more
Caporegime
No HD7970,HD7950 or GTX580 owners with a Core i7 have the Batman game to run a few benchmarks??
So far it seems a 1.235GHZ HD7970 3GB is more or less equal to the 1.3GHZ GTX680 in the game but the former has a 1GHZ higher clocked Core i7 in its favour.
So far it seems a 1.235GHZ HD7970 3GB is more or less equal to the 1.3GHZ GTX680 in the game but the former has a 1GHZ higher clocked Core i7 in its favour.
Soldato
This "round" of Kepler was supposed to be a couple of mid ranged cards. That was when Nvidia had a clear lead over AMD and could take things in their stride.
Then AMD come along with their 28nm and pretty much make buying most of Nvidia's existing cards pointless. I'm referring to the 3gb 580 which was replaced by the 7970 3gb at the same price, and the 7950 3gb which replaced the 580 1.5gb at the same price.
Battlefield 3 also made it harder to choose Nvidia's mid ranged and low end solutions as they are all a bit tight on vram, making the 6950 and 6970 remaining stocks a good buy.
The 680 was originally apparently supposedly rumoured to be called a 670ti, with a 660 coming out at the same time depending on what rumours you listened to.
However, apparently there was this "magical 40% bios" that made the 670ti a far faster card, and thus it got the name 680 and is now being presented as a high end part.
Other rumours include Nvidia saying that AMD's 28nm is "underwhelming" and that AMD basically have a Fermi on their hands due to the way they have combined some stuff into the GPU that they never had before. This could indeed back up Nvidia's "underwhelming" quote.
Since then an Nvidia employee posted on a forum to say that GK104 *IS* the high end part, but no one really believes him.
Basically it would seem that AMD are having problems with their 28nm, whilst Nvidia have a set of golden gonads and lucked out, thus, will take a slight lead and buttrape people with prices.
Thankyou for reading "This thread in two minutes" and have a nice day now
Edit, just to add...
Apparently the 670ti was a "smoke screen" and Nvidia were actually pretending to release a mid ranged card. Apparently the 680 was being shrouded in absolute secrecy and being hidden under the name 670ti.
Depending on what you believe I feel that basically they just got lucky with some overclock testing, and realised it could actually perform a lot more than they thought, thus they renamed it 680 and will now commit mass sodomy.
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So we've established that the guy running the GTX680 knows nothing about computers. I mean, why would you be running a GTX680 with a Core i3 and a 20" monitor... in windowed mode? Good grief.
Even IF the results were good it still gives us no idea how the card will perform in games, which is a lot more relevant that synthetic benchmarks.
Even IF the results were good it still gives us no idea how the card will perform in games, which is a lot more relevant that synthetic benchmarks.
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I have to agree, its probably worth just sitting tight intill REAL benchmarks are released later this week.
Caporegime
Yeah, no problems.
Might take a while, need to download it again.
Lets see if those pair of GTX470 cards will give those younger whippersnappers a clear set of heels!!
Soldato
Yeah this is what I am waiting for now.
Caporegime
The guy who got the massive GTX680 Unigine score ran it windowed and he had a Core i7 2600K. The chap with the Core i3 ran it full screen.
Everyone who contributed a score in the last few pages ran it full screen.
Lets see if those pair of GTX470 cards will give those younger whippersnappers a clear set of heels!!
Get 74fps with the settings in that "GTX680" benchmark with GTX470 SLI - tho I'm not using the most uptodate drivers which I think give another 5% or so in heaven.
Soldato
Window mode won't have much impact on the result, someone with a 7970 try it.
Soldato
Mine from 5 hours ago
Stock 7970 i7 with 2 cores disabled at stock speed 3.4ghz (best I could do!)
Not going to bother with the overclocked results as they were at least 10fps more
1600x900 and FSAA on?
Why don't people just leave it completely as it comes? makes it impossible to really compare them otherwise.
Soldato
If gibbos right about that four screen faster than red green card I can see my student loan disappearing fast. Especially if there's a phantom or decent twin frozr version... Thinking at the moment though, based on needs I'd probably go for a 660/670 phantom...
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Soldato
What 660 and 670?
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