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The first "proper" Kepler news Fri 17th Feb?

Also who would buy a gtx680 if you knew there was a "gtx680x2" with the GK110 with double the amount of cudacores, and all that jazz, coming in september(Q3 2012).

Depending on a lot of things, I'm going to wait a see how good the gtx680 really is.

If its mediocre then I don't mind waiting for the GK110.
 
thezakarum said:
Also who would buy a gtx680 if you knew there was a "gtx680x2" with the GK110 with double the amount of cudacores, and all that jazz, coming in september(Q3 2012).

Depending on a lot of things, I'm going to wait a see how good the gtx680 really is.

If its mediocre then I don't mind waiting for the GK110.
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I'm waiting for Kepler as I need to upgrade from a dated GTX285.

If Kepler fits the bill with it's first card I can invest and it should last me a long time, irrespective of what is coming out in 6 months.

Why invest in a "GTX680x2" when there is a GTX780 coming in Q2 2013.

Why invest in a GTX780 when there is a GTX880 coming in Q2 2014.

Why invest...

You have doubts as you already have 470 SLI....why do you need to upgrade that? You do not, really. So of course you think it's pointless. Not everyone is coming from hardware that is more than respectable for todays titles.
 
ALXAndy said:
Killjoy !
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Heh :p

Okay fine - just for you, here are my own personal speculations:




* The top GK104 part will be called GTX680.

* It will come with an RRP of either $449 or $499, and the cheapest models will cost around £350-£375 in UK shops on release.

* The cut-down part will be called the GTX670, will come with a $399 pricetag, and will appear in UK shops for around £300-£325 on release.

* The transistor count of the GTX680 part will be around 3.9Bn, comprising 1536 shaders which will perform two FP-operation per base-clock (either via a single FP-op at hot-clocked frequencies, or two at base-clock)

* Base clockspeed will be 750Mhz, increasing to 850Mhz during "dynamic overclocking" ('turbo mode')

* Floating point performance will be rated at "up to 2.6TF" (single precision), with Nvidia using the "turbo mode" as the basis for this calculation.

* The power draw of the GTX 680 will be similar to that of the stock 7970, coming in at around 225W in most gaming benchmarks. It may draw slightly more power than the 7970 on average.

* Performance of the GTX680 will exceed that of the 7970 in *most* real-world benchmarks, by around 10% at 1920*1200. At 2560*1600 the two cards will be very similar in performance (the GTX680 suffering more from memory bandwidth, particularly in games with heavy post-processing effects).

* The GTX680 will NOT have the same overclocking headroom as the 7970, and will lose out to a 1150Mhz 7970 in most circumstances.

* The GTX680 die will be smaller than the 7970, coming in at around 325mm^2.

* The card will use a two-slot vapour chamber cooling system, with a traditional "blower" type fan to vent hot exhaust gasses directly out of the case.

* The card will natively support Nvidia surround, up to three screens.

* The GPGPU features will have been heavily stripped from the GPU, in contrast to the upcoming GK110. Geometric throughput (and so tessellation performance) may suffer, leading to only slightly better than GTX580 performance in tessellation-heavy benchmarks.




Okay, those are my guesses. I don't care if any of you disagree - we will all find out in a week or so :)
 
Duff-Man said:
Heh :p

Okay fine - just for you, here are my own personal speculations:




* The top GK104 part will be called GTX680.

* It will come with an RRP of either $449 or $499, and the cheapest models will cost around £350-£375 in UK shops on release.

* The cut-down part will be called the GTX670, will come with a $399 pricetag, and will appear in UK shops for around £300-£325 on release.

* The transistor count of the GTX680 part will be around 3.9Bn, comprising 1536 shaders which will perform two FP-operation per base-clock (either via a single FP-op at hot-clocked frequencies, or two at base-clock)

* Base clockspeed will be 750Mhz, increasing to 850Mhz during "dynamic overclocking" ('turbo mode')

* Floating point performance will be rated at "up to 2.6TF" (single precision), with Nvidia using the "turbo mode" as the basis for this calculation.

* The power draw of the GTX 680 will be similar to that of the stock 7970, coming in at around 225W in most gaming benchmarks. It may draw slightly more power than the 7970 on average.

* Performance of the GTX680 will exceed that of the 7970 in *most* real-world benchmarks, by around 10% at 1920*1200. At 2560*1600 the two cards will be very similar in performance (the GTX680 suffering more from memory bandwidth, particularly in games with heavy post-processing effects).

* The GTX680 will NOT have the same overclocking headroom as the 7970, and will lose out to a 1150Mhz 7970 in most circumstances.

* The GTX680 die will be smaller than the 7970, coming in at around 325mm^2.

* The card will use a two-slot vapour chamber cooling system, with a traditional "blower" type fan to vent hot exhaust gasses directly out of the case.

* The card will natively support Nvidia surround, up to three screens.

* The GPGPU features will have been heavily stripped from the GPU, in contrast to the upcoming GK110. Geometric throughput (and so tessellation performance) may suffer, leading to only slightly better than GTX580 performance in tessellation-heavy benchmarks.




Okay, those are my guesses. I don't care if any of you disagree - we will all find out in a week or so :)
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Sounds about right :)
 
Duff-Man said:
Heh :p

Okay fine - just for you, here are my own personal speculations:




* The top GK104 part will be called GTX680.

* It will come with an RRP of either $449 or $499, and the cheapest models will cost around £350-£375 in UK shops on release.

* The cut-down part will be called the GTX670, will come with a $399 pricetag, and will appear in UK shops for around £300-£325 on release.

* The transistor count of the GTX680 part will be around 3.9Bn, comprising 1536 shaders which will perform two FP-operation per base-clock (either via a single FP-op at hot-clocked frequencies, or two at base-clock)

* Base clockspeed will be 750Mhz, increasing to 850Mhz during "dynamic overclocking" ('turbo mode')

* Floating point performance will be rated at "up to 2.6TF" (single precision), with Nvidia using the "turbo mode" as the basis for this calculation.

* The power draw of the GTX 680 will be similar to that of the stock 7970, coming in at around 225W in most gaming benchmarks. It may draw slightly more power than the 7970 on average.

* Performance of the GTX680 will exceed that of the 7970 in *most* real-world benchmarks, by around 10% at 1920*1200. At 2560*1600 the two cards will be very similar in performance (the GTX680 suffering more from memory bandwidth, particularly in games with heavy post-processing effects).

* The GTX680 will NOT have the same overclocking headroom as the 7970, and will lose out to a 1150Mhz 7970 in most circumstances.

* The GTX680 die will be smaller than the 7970, coming in at around 325mm^2.

* The card will use a two-slot vapour chamber cooling system, with a traditional "blower" type fan to vent hot exhaust gasses directly out of the case.

* The card will natively support Nvidia surround, up to three screens.

* The GPGPU features will have been heavily stripped from the GPU, in contrast to the upcoming GK110. Geometric throughput (and so tessellation performance) may suffer, leading to only slightly better than GTX580 performance in tessellation-heavy benchmarks.




Okay, those are my guesses. I don't care if any of you disagree - we will all find out in a week or so :)
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You missed the most important feature which will probably sway most people to the Nvidia card.....




































.....the backlit GEFORCE GTX logo on the top of the card!!


:p
 
Shayper said:
Sounds about right :)
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Yeah, those were some pretty good guesses. :p

Sin_Chase said:
I'm waiting for Kepler as I need to upgrade from a dated GTX285.

If Kepler fits the bill with it's first card I can invest and it should last me a long time, irrespective of what is coming out in 6 months.

Why invest in a "GTX680x2" when there is a GTX780 coming in Q2 2013.

Why invest in a GTX780 when there is a GTX880 coming in Q2 2014.

Why invest...

You have doubts as you already have 470 SLI....why do you need to upgrade that? You do not, really. So of course you think it's pointless. Not everyone is coming from hardware that is more than respectable for todays titles.
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And yeah, I spose you're right.

Sorry for my ignorance. :o
 
Fairly sure if GPGPU/CUDA is neutered on this card over the GK110 (not directly slower because that's expected if you have half the shaders or whatever it ends up with) but somehow slower disproportionately I'll be very sad panda.
 
I still reckon less than £300 will get the GTX670TI. The most expensive previous GTX x70 launches were the 470 @ $349 and the 570 @ £349. Taking into account that the 670TI will have a much smaller die and cheaper 256bit PCB, I reackon $349 to $399 (£270 to £300 incl VAT). I (and probably many other GTX480/580 owners) will not pay above £300 unless performance is significantly above GTX580 levels.

Usually, the previous generations top card performance can be had for £200 or less. The 5850 and GTX460 both managed that, as did the 4850 and GTX260 etc. Anything north of £300 will see me finally giving up on PC gaming.
 
wolvers said:
I wish you lot would stop thinking that things like die-size will effect the price. It's all about performance vs the AMD range.
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Yea if you look at the 7870 which has a die size of 212mm2 you would expect pricing to be really low but infact people are talking prices around £250-£280. The gk104 is rumoured to have a die size similar to that of tahiti if not a little smaller so its obvious die size means little compared to performance where launch prices are concerned. If it is cheap to produce though it does mean they could lower prices more if needed.
 
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