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The first "proper" Kepler news Fri 17th Feb?

Johannes Kepler: Born 1571 - Died 1630

Johannes Kepler was born to a poor family, whose father finally settled to become a tavern keeper. He was a sickly child, and was withdrawn from school to help in the tavern and as a laborer in the fields. Because his family was Lutheran, Kepler was destined for the ministry. He was sent as a charity student to a protestant seminary, and later to a college where he received a Bachelor's Degree. His evident intelligence earned him a scholarship to the University of Tubingen, where he studied theology and mathematics, and earned a Master's Degree in Philosophy.

Kepler learned privately of the heliocentric view, which is the belief that the sun is the center of the planetary system, and other Copernican theories at the university. Kepler was forced to study this view privately because the church, as well as society, was adamant in its belief of the Ptolemaic Theory of a geocentric universe. This theory states that the earth is the center around which the heavenly bodies move. Eventually, he became an outspoken supporter in defense of the Copernican system.

After his studies at the university, Kepler became a professor of mathematics. In 1600 he left the teaching profession to work as an assistant to Tycho Brahe, in Prague. It was in Prague, during his tedious study of the orbit of Mars, where Kepler developed his first two laws of planetary motion.


THE FIRST LAW

The first law was announced in 1605. The law states that, planets move in ellipses with the sun at one focus. Earlier astronomers and mathematicians defined the ellipse as a regular curve with easily defined properties much like those of a circle. Through his study of the orbit of Mars, Kepler discovered that the simple ellipse would succinctly define it's orbit. The geometric definition of an ellipse helped Kepler disprove the theories of the circular or spherical motion of heavenly bodies, which was believed for over 2,000 years. He, like Copernicus, believed that God had a simple, mathematical plan in his creation of the universe. Kepler's first law exemplified this belief.


THE SECOND LAW

The second law states that, the radius vector describes equal areas in equal times. Through his observation of the ellipse, Kepler discovered that the planets did not move at a constant speed. A planet closer to the sun in its orbit, moves faster and farther along its elliptical arc. The same planet farther from the sun in its orbit moves slower and covers a smaller distance along the arc of its ellipse.The time, however, is the same for both distances. In Kepler's search for mathematical simplicity, a constant velocity would have been easier to understand, but God clearly chose a less obvious mathematical law to determine the velocity of the planets. This law was published, along with the first, in Kepler's book Astronomia Nova.


THE THIRD LAW

His second law proved that the distances of the planets varied greatly in their orbits. The third law resulted as a searched for a principle with that in mind. The third law states that, the squares of the periodic times are to each other as the cubes of the mean distances. Kepler announced this law in 1619, fourteen years after the first two laws. It took him years to find the law to describe the distances of the planets to the sun. After much deliberation, Kepler arrived at the law that if T is the period of revolution of any planet and D is its mean distance from the sun, then T squared is equal to k multiplied by D cubed, where k is a constant, which is the same for all the planets. This third law was published in his book, The Harmony of the World.


OTHER KEPLER FACTS

1) Kepler formulated eyeglass designs for nearsightedness and farsightedness.
2) He was the first to explain the use of both eyes for depth perception.
3) He explained the principles of how a telescope works.
4) Kepler was the first to explain that the tides are caused by the Moon(Galileo scoffed at him for this belief).
5) He was the first to derive the year of Christ's birth, that is now universally accepted.
 
I think we will have to put up with a lot more rumour and speculation before Kepler lands ..... so i might as well have my 2 penneth worth ....
Kepler will land on the shelves between April 1st and 3rd the gtx670 will be priced at or around £429 for the most pricey version but we might get lucky and see lesser brands willing to forego a huge markup and sell for £379 ...... and i have my fingers crossed for the release of Bioshock Infinite at the same time :)

Blimey make that gtx 680 at £499 for pricey version and £445 if we are lucky for the more sensibly priced .... my wallet is in pain allready :(

**Edit** Just an afterthought before the day shift clocks in :)

 
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£500 for a card that's not much better or even equal to a 7970?
Think I will wait until end of year to upgrade my 580.No wonder nvidia have been so quiet if their struggling to match ati's cards.
So called high end kelper card will probally cost + £600 when it launches at end of year.
Not good times for us looking to upgrade.
 
Ouch £400+ for a mid-high part disguised as the thecreme de la creme? Well I'm out, me no mug this time.


GTX680 in the flesh below.

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For me i.dont care if this card is low end, high end, back end or *******, all i care about is performance and price. Dont understand why people get so hung up about what "end" the card is for.
 
For me i.dont care if this card is low end, high end, back end or *******, all i care about is performance and price. Dont understand why people get so hung up about what "end" the card is for.

Everyone thinks the same as you mate, if this 660 gives +40% over a 580 we're in.

The issue is the above scenario isn't at all likely with a GK104 part (as it would be if this part were GK100)

So, if the rumours are true, all Nvidia have done is seen that kepler 660 is roughly equal in performance to 7970 and breathed a huge sigh of relief as it lets them release a '680' rather than embarrassingly releasing a 660 with their true high end part nowhere in sight
 
For me i.dont care if this card is low end, high end, back end or *******, all i care about is performance and price. Dont understand why people get so hung up about what "end" the card is for.
Performance and price,the most important aspects of any purchase.Will have to wait and see,hope its not the ******* card lol.
Can't see the 7970's dropping in price anytime soon to combat this launch.
Have been offered €350 for my gtx580 yesterday,but don't think the gtx680 or whatever it's called it gonna be worth it,which means if I hold onto it for another while my 580 will decrease in value.Im in a no win situation.
 
Everyone thinks the same as you mate, if this 660 gives +40% over a 580 we're in.

The issue is the above scenario isn't at all likely with a GK104 part (as it would be if this part were GK100)

So, if the rumours are true, all Nvidia have done is seen that kepler 660 is roughly equal in performance to 7970 and breathed a huge sigh of relief as it lets them release a '680' rather than embarrassingly releasing a 660 with their true high end part nowhere in sight


Fair enough. But regardless, whatever card they release, if it is fasterthan gtx580 it is their high end card. Of course they will have something faster in the pipeline, both companies always have. Anyone care to speculate why they wouldnt release a 680 full blown card if the 104 card is ready? The photos on this thread look like a high end card to me.
 
Johannes Kepler: Born 1571 - Died 1630

Johannes Kepler was born to a poor family, whose father finally settled to become a tavern keeper. He was a sickly child, and was withdrawn from school to help in the tavern and as a laborer in the fields. Because his family was Lutheran, Kepler was destined for the ministry. He was sent as a charity student to a protestant seminary, and later to a college where he received a Bachelor's Degree. His evident intelligence earned him a scholarship to the University of Tubingen, where he studied theology and mathematics, and earned a Master's Degree in Philosophy.

Kepler learned privately of the heliocentric view, which is the belief that the sun is the center of the planetary system, and other Copernican theories at the university. Kepler was forced to study this view privately because the church, as well as society, was adamant in its belief of the Ptolemaic Theory of a geocentric universe. This theory states that the earth is the center around which the heavenly bodies move. Eventually, he became an outspoken supporter in defense of the Copernican system.

After his studies at the university, Kepler became a professor of mathematics. In 1600 he left the teaching profession to work as an assistant to Tycho Brahe, in Prague. It was in Prague, during his tedious study of the orbit of Mars, where Kepler developed his first two laws of planetary motion.


THE FIRST LAW

The first law was announced in 1605. The law states that, planets move in ellipses with the sun at one focus. Earlier astronomers and mathematicians defined the ellipse as a regular curve with easily defined properties much like those of a circle. Through his study of the orbit of Mars, Kepler discovered that the simple ellipse would succinctly define it's orbit. The geometric definition of an ellipse helped Kepler disprove the theories of the circular or spherical motion of heavenly bodies, which was believed for over 2,000 years. He, like Copernicus, believed that God had a simple, mathematical plan in his creation of the universe. Kepler's first law exemplified this belief.


THE SECOND LAW

The second law states that, the radius vector describes equal areas in equal times. Through his observation of the ellipse, Kepler discovered that the planets did not move at a constant speed. A planet closer to the sun in its orbit, moves faster and farther along its elliptical arc. The same planet farther from the sun in its orbit moves slower and covers a smaller distance along the arc of its ellipse.The time, however, is the same for both distances. In Kepler's search for mathematical simplicity, a constant velocity would have been easier to understand, but God clearly chose a less obvious mathematical law to determine the velocity of the planets. This law was published, along with the first, in Kepler's book Astronomia Nova.


THE THIRD LAW

His second law proved that the distances of the planets varied greatly in their orbits. The third law resulted as a searched for a principle with that in mind. The third law states that, the squares of the periodic times are to each other as the cubes of the mean distances. Kepler announced this law in 1619, fourteen years after the first two laws. It took him years to find the law to describe the distances of the planets to the sun. After much deliberation, Kepler arrived at the law that if T is the period of revolution of any planet and D is its mean distance from the sun, then T squared is equal to k multiplied by D cubed, where k is a constant, which is the same for all the planets. This third law was published in his book, The Harmony of the World.


OTHER KEPLER FACTS

1) Kepler formulated eyeglass designs for nearsightedness and farsightedness.
2) He was the first to explain the use of both eyes for depth perception.
3) He explained the principles of how a telescope works.
4) Kepler was the first to explain that the tides are caused by the Moon(Galileo scoffed at him for this belief).
5) He was the first to derive the year of Christ's birth, that is now universally accepted.

Best read on this entire thread. :D
 
I think selling a 580 now would not be wise (although at 350 euro go for it!), all rumours point to the 680 not being a worthwhile upgrade at the moment.
Just after taking my 580 off an Irish auction site,was just testing the water.
Afraid to sell until I see proof of a significant performance increase on the 580.
Will have to wait another few weeks to see if there is gonna be a Gigabyte windforce gtx680 edition.Bloody love the windforce,the quietest card I have ever owned.
Now to wait for ''real'' specs and benches of the new card.
 
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