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The first "proper" Kepler news Fri 17th Feb?

well... if you think it's overpriced, don't buy one

it's quite simple

if Nvidia have gotten the pricing wrong they will pay where it hurts, in their bottom... line

(see what I did there)
 
well... if you think it's overpriced, don't buy one

it's quite simple

if Nvidia have gotten the pricing wrong they will pay where it hurts, in their bottom... line

(see what I did there)

If it does what we suspect it does (based on what people have said around here, IE the guy from Georgia) and that is basically trade blows with the 7970 then it's worth £440 or there abouts.

Which is what I suspect it will cost at launch, the same as the 7970.
 
Disappointing TBH, for a 1000 core card it's not exactly beating the 7970 by a significant amount. Interesting to see how far the 680 clocks, if it's a bad clocker then I can only see me going with the higher spec 7950 especially if the 680 comes in at £400+.

I am not dissapointed however if there is not a lot to the OC, then this could be dissapointing. I will hold judgement till I see what is what.

But 8x AA is being used in BF3 at Ultra?

It shows me, the game I am enjoying at the moment, will be VERY playable :D

yea but below 3GB you only have 1.5 GB, so that's the same as you quote, so this is what they mean..... a 1.5 GB card is right on the limit now, but will not be enough for next year.

Source?
 
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If it does what we suspect it does (based on what people have said around here, IE the guy from Georgia) and that is basically trade blows with the 7970 then it's worth £440 or there abouts.

Which is what I suspect it will cost at launch, the same as the 7970.

I think you mean "faster than a 7970" and yeah it probably will be £440ish which is correspondingly more than the 7970 which is around £380-390 from most places now
 
HKEPC is one of the better know Chinese websites although I don't check it that much,but I find Inpai tends to be relatively unbiased last time I looked.

Look man I'm not being funny here but let me explain something to you, and any one else here.

When you sign an NDA it contains a good couple of pages of small print. In that small print it clearly states that if you give out any information whatsoever or any technical details about the product/service you are signing it for then you leave yourself wide open to have your ass sued off.

That is just fact. So how come those benchmarks are up? is some one truly brave enough to go against that and risk their lives being ruined?

The only answer is no. No one who resides upon this earth would so much as dare to go against an NDA. Not unless they were clearly mentally retarded and did not know how to read.

So why are those benchmarks and a clear photo of the card up?

Marketing propaganda that has been given the go ahead by Nvidia.

It's kind of the same as when Gibbo posted early Heaven benchmarks for the 7970. He would absolutely not have done so unless he was allowed to and had been given the go ahead.

So what we do know is that based on history and how an NDA works that those figures are either clearly all out BS, or, they have been sanctioned by Nvidia.

So which one do we go on? BS? sanctioned by Nvidia?

The very fact that they are completely and utterly biased and loaded (and they are) and don't even (in a couple of cases) show the whole story leads me to believe that Nvidia clearly gave its permission for those benchmarks to be posted.

Right now the marketing staff at Nvidia want to make people believe one thing. And that is obviously that the 680 is better than the 7970, and thus will be worth a stupid price.

So how do you prepare people for such a high price? you simply show them your card conclusively beating the rival part, and thus you justify the price you are about to charge, and make people truly believe that they have waited for a better one, because in all of the benchmarks it is faster.

Right?

Well, no.

Nvidia have a very long and proven track record of bullying, lying, covering things up and giving out biased information that works in their favour.

IE - they are only showing what their card wins at, trying to build up a consensus that their card is clearly better and faster at everything than AMD's card.

But, any one with half a brain can figure it out as nothing more than buttered up biased benchmarks.

People are already beginning to spot the clear flaws. IE -

Why only 1080p? why 8XFSAA? why is there just a simple FPS score for Heaven and not the overall scores, averages or maximum frame rates?

Why are all of the titles tested Nvidia proven titles that they have backed and stood behind? IE -

Battlefield 3. When you install a Nvidia driver they are loaded with adverts for the game. The game is also widely known to underperform on AMD cards for whatever reason.

Modern Warfare 3. Another game that was heavily backed and endorsed by Nvidia. There were even limited edition Nvidia cards from certain OEMs that came packaged as so.

Lost Planet 2. A demo that came packed with my GTX 470.

Batman Arkham City. As you load up the game you get Nvidia adverts, then find out the game uses Nvidia Physx.

And so on. Basically all those benchmarks show are the 680 winning.

Looking at them I would say it is clear that the 680 will not win at everything, so they have simply chosen the things it does win at and let out some pictures to fool complete idiots into thinking that they absolutely must have the 680 because it's going to be the fastest card on the market.

Which I would strongly doubt is true.
 
I think you mean "faster than a 7970" and yeah it probably will be £440ish which is correspondingly more than the 7970 which is around £380-390 from most places now

Oh dear. It would seem you have already been brainwashed.

Before you make such bold statements I would wait for the truth. IE - the whole story, and not some Nvidia hand picked loaded BS.

Might be because thats the most popular resolution used by everyone?

At £450 there are plenty of cards on the market that can already handle games perfectly well at that resolution.
 
It wasn't well said at all. Plasma TVs have been around for bloody years. The first one out cost US $14999.

Since then hardly anything has changed, so thanks to mass production they are now cheaper.

GPUs on the other hand change all the time. For example Kepler is a completely new technology from Nvidia like nothing before. Thus, they need back all of the money they have put into inventing it, researching and developing it and so on.

Thus, as I pointed out before comparing various inanimate objects to something completely different is not well said at all.

Let's say a TV came out next week that runs on fart gas. Then you would have a point comparing it to a GPU running new technology.

Plasma is far from new technology, and like many things in the world of TV and so on changes very infrequently as it needs to become a household standard.

Really? So Gpu's have changed so much in the last 20yrs have they, Mmmm.......... and of course Tv's havn't changed at all have they. You sir seem to think you know everything about everything because you sold Pc parts. Well so do the salesmen with the purple shirts and they know very little. I sir was comparing the price of a relatively new tech monitor to a current gpu and saying what good value it was and how much enjoyment I get from it. My £140 GTX 470 can do everything I need to enjoy Skyrim in 3D. How much better will the current £400-£500 cards do it and would it change my enjoyment, no I dont think so. So you go on and enjoy your little delusions and I will continue to live in the real world where we know the true value of the money in our pockets. I have to go to work now so I will be unable to respond to any comments. Sorry. :p
 
Really? So Gpu's have changed so much in the last 20yrs have they, Mmmm.......... and of course Tv's havn't changed at all have they. You sir seem to think you know everything about everything because you sold Pc parts. Well so do the salesmen with the purple shirts and they know very little. I sir was comparing the price of a relatively new tech monitor to a current gpu and saying what good value it was and how much enjoyment I get from it. My £140 GTX 470 can do everything I need to enjoy Skyrim in 3D. How much better will the current £400-£500 cards do it and would it change my enjoyment, no I dont think so. So you go on and enjoy your little delusions and I will continue to live in the real world where we know the true value of the money in our pockets. I have to go to work now so I will be unable to respond to any comments. Sorry. :p

OK. So how has the actual plasma gas and the way it works changed?

Where has any one said that you absolutely must go out and buy the very latest technology?

Because that is what the 7000 series and Kepler are.
 
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