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The GTX Titan X owners thread.

Gerard said:
12 gig might be needed for 4k + 8xmsaa plus some stupidly hi res texture pack, but thats about it. :)
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Agreed, or 3 x 4K screens with all the AA options you can get. That's like the 0.01% of PC gamers though.

As a high-end card, a Radeon with 8GB HBM is a very attractive prospect, especially if price is similar to a 6GB GDDR5 GTX 980 Ti. 8GB is the sweet spot imho.
 
Boomstick777 said:
I expect Nvidia considered 8GB for the Titan X but that would have meant a memory config like the 970 3.5GB + 0.5GB, no doubt Nvidia wanted to avoid a lynching..

6GB / 12GB works perfect on GM200 without compromising the chip, but they couldn't of justified only 6GB as well as nerfed compute on the Titan X (The reason for OG Titan price).

So now we have 12GB which let's face it is just massive overkill but goes some way to justify it's high price tag. By the time we need 12GB Titan X will be lacking in GPU grunt compared to newer cards.

It will be interesting to see how many people claim 12GB is needed but then go onto praise the 980 Ti with only '6GB'. It's a fickle thing the graphics card forum :p

8GB will be absolutely fine for gaming for a long time, and by the time it's not those type of buyers will have upgraded anyway :D



+1 cost is what will motivate me to make the switch beyond anything else, if performance is on par but costs much less I will sell up and go Radeon. If performance is a lil better but very expensive I may just stay put with my TX for now. Depends on how much I could get back on my card.

The Titan X is a beast, no probs with the card at all. I just don't want it's value to be lost, so keeping my eye on 390X release to see if I need to sell up..
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TBH if performance is on par with the Titan X i'd guess selling yours and buying a new 390x will result in not making much at all. I can see the second hand value of Titan X dropping a reasonable amount if the 390x is as good
 
triss said:
I can see the second hand value of Titan X dropping a reasonable amount if the 390x is as good
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Yeah this is what would worry me, I'm not as minted as Kaap etc so can't afford to take a massive hit on the card when passing it on.

I guess the other thing to do would be to use the TX for a couple of years and get value out of it that way.. That's not likely though I like to get the latest tech.. Yes it's an addiction :D.. An expensive one lately :p
 
I have already used more than 8gb on several occassions hence my previous comment.

For two cards 6gb/8gb is fine but for 3 or 4 cards for gaming 12gb is the way to go.

If i can use more than 8gb now, in 6 or 12 months time games will be even more demanding.
 
Kaapstad said:
I have already used more than 8gb on several occassions hence my previous comment.

For two cards 6gb/8gb is fine but for 3 or 4 cards for gaming 12gb is the way to go.

If i can use more than 8gb now, in 6 or 12 months time games will be even more demanding.
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Yeah but Kaap you're not representative of the typical gamer. Much less the typical gamers budget.

If the 970 (3.5GB) 980 (4GB) and upcoming 980 Ti (6GB) can sell well, there is no reason an 8GB HBM Radeon can't do the same.

8GB will be fine for years in most usual gaming scenarios. For people with triple 4K monitors and 3/4 cards maybe more than 8GB is useful, but that's a very small market.

For us mere mortals an 8GB high end card that's affordable would be spot on. I'll switch if the price is right and I can re-coup some value on my TX. That thought would likely not cross the mind of a triple screen 4K gamer, hence why 3/4 Titan X's would seem ok to that type of buyer. For everyone else a cheaper high end card with 8GB would be great.
 
Kaapstad said:
I have already used more than 8gb on several occassions hence my previous comment.

For two cards 6gb/8gb is fine but for 3 or 4 cards for gaming 12gb is the way to go.

If i can use more than 8gb now, in 6 or 12 months time games will be even more demanding.
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What games, settings and res are you using?

Is it required or just caching?

As a rule I usually tend to agree with you,

but saying that 8Gb cards will be obsolete b4 launching is a little extreme.:eek:

With Windows 10 and DX 12 about to launch, the way we think/presume things will work are about to be turned upside down IMHO.:)
 
Knowing Kaap probably 2160p with 8X MSAA.

The VRAM arguments never get anywhere. But I will say that people tend to brush off the way Direct X 11's magic driver handles memory. I don't agree with the way people say "Yeah but that's just caching, it's using everything it can" as if it's nothing to see or take note of. 'Just over consuming' type of affair. Not being funny, but, there are plenty of reasons why this memory is getting allocated. What is so unimportant about drawing 'all the buildings' or 'all the cars' without having to migrate data else where or make room. If you have that memory available you want to be using it.

Buffer management is key to a smooth experience and when we say 'buffer' it doesn't really cover it, as it's a huge topic. You do tend to get these stereotypical groups of people - like the ones with less VRAM and the ones with more VRAM. The people with less VRAM tend to look at their frame buffer hovering near the capacity and think the games just using 'as much as it can'. However more often than not there needs to be room for canned affects or temporary buffers. Using all available VRAM is not simply caching for the sake of caching. In the event there isn't enough available memory on allocation, it will release the current buffer and create a system memory copy, which will cause a stall regardless of whether this stall is noticed. However, using all allocated memory in the frame buffer as a gauge for how much is required is futile, this serves no purpose other than to fuel arguments.

VRAM doesn't get as much credit as it should - yes 12GB is a fairly sizeable amount of memory. Do I need 12GB? No, probably not. Do I need more than 4GB? If you're gaming above 1080p I would say yes for the best experience. In fact, the more the better - however 8GB is plenty for games to cope with even at 4K.
 
Rossi~ said:
You'll be surprised what you can get away with, with only 2Gb VRAM without stumbling into problems where in the same situation with a 4GB card would use 3GB VRAM+
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Exactly this, huge difference between a card caching all data that's been thrown at it since the start of a game and a card suffering a material degradation in frame rate due to a lack of vram once all unneeded cached data has been removed.
 
It's quality of life thing and there will be differences. 2GB VRAM isn't really an option for a high end experience any more.

I can get away with walking to work in the rain, that doesn't necessarily mean I want to. There's two sides to the argument but there is no chance I agree with saying that 8GB is not enough. 8GB should be plenty for any given situation besides the extreme.

Gregster said:
I showed over 10GB being used in COD AW @ 1440P but that isn't what is needed and shows caching. 8GB will be fine for 4K for a long time.
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I couldn't use any post processing or over 2xMSAA at 1440p in AW on my 980GTX SLI because I ran out of VRAM.
 
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whyscotty said:
What games, settings and res are you using?

Is it required or just caching?

As a rule I usually tend to agree with you,

but saying that 8Gb cards will be obsolete b4 launching is a little extreme.:eek:

With Windows 10 and DX 12 about to launch, the way we think/presume things will work are about to be turned upside down IMHO.:)
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There are not many at the moment, GTA V is an obvious one though which uses just over 8gb at 2160p.

The point I am trying to make is it is possible to breach 8gb now in extreme circumstances and the 390X is not even on the market, this will only get worse during the life of the card.

This does not mean that you can not game on cards with less amounts of memory, more so with one or two GPUs where you would have to turn the settings down anyway (not even 2 TitanXs can run GTA V maxed @2160p). What it does mean is people need to be aware of what is on the horizon now.

Something for the future BF4 maxed @8k uses 9gb of VRAM.:eek:
 
But but but but :p

You're talking 4K, 1440 isn't close to the norm as yet.

I know exactly the point your making.

There will always be a game that comes out and cripples a system. :D
 
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