You can re ride it any time. it's the group rides that have a catch-up window, but you can just select the appropriate course and ride it yourself at any time.
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You can re ride it any time. it's the group rides that have a catch-up window, but you can just select the appropriate course and ride it yourself at any time.
Anything ANT+ or BT.
I've always used Wahoo TICKR's but only as the first one I had lived forever (2014-2022!), so I just replaced it with the current generation one. Had a few stability issues and stuff with it, but it seems to have settled down now. Seemed to go through batteries quite rapidly (even now seems to still be active sometimes when I'm not wearing it overnight and put it on) but now it's got reliable am thinking a bad batch of batteries. I'm back on bulk bought Panasonics' from Amazon after trying cheaper EverReady and then some Duracells.
I'm on Whoop but have not noticed much correlation between it and my alcohol consumption... But I'm not changing that and generally drinking same/similar amounts at the same times each week... While also riding much the same things/intensitites and such at the same times each week... So the patterns are always the same!well not quite! Weren't you looking at getting one too? Did you get it?
I think they are great but the behaviours it highlights I don't really intend to change. I felt that how I was feeling often didn't correlate to how the whoop told me I should be feeling. The idea of it is you go hard on good days and take it easy on bad ones but unless you are looking for absolute peak performance then it doesn't really matter. Was good to help me point out how bad alcohol effects your body's response and now even after 1 glass of wine I can actually feel my HR rising. It's interesting and a good learning experience and would be great if you took it more seriously. It also started giving me false readings - it was detecting me at or above 150bpm when I was washing pans or cooking dinner pretty much once per week. Tech support weren't much help.
But also not going to change either... Alcohol has generally become my 'reward' from working hard, but I also have to generally ride hard for it too. So Thursdays after a TTT - beer, maybe 2. Friday no riding, beer. Saturday usually big ride, beer. Sunday sometimes a long ride if I missed saturday, usually have a beer if I've ridden!
After 2 months off your feet should have 'forgotten' about your old shoes! Unless you where still wearing them as slippers?!
I've found on Zwift/indoors I generally ride with my shoes looser. If I don't I tend to get uncomfortable. If they're too tight can even get really painful before I notice!
Apple TV. Without a doubt as a budget option, is pretty unbeatable. Think I'm on the 4th gen 4K one. Something about the 4K having better GPU than the non-4K? Got it for £100 on a bit of a whim rather than spending £400+ on a new GPU to go in my old PC as an upgrade over the crappy laptop I was using before. Now I'm glad I did. Yes the F@$*%£@* remote is the utter SPAWN OF SATAN when trying to do anything with it. But generally don't need to use it while riding (use companion app, or just press the 'Play' button on remote to activate a powerup), so the frustrations are only post-ride so can take my time and not get frustrated. GPU prices are back down now, but for spending £200+ on an old GPU to go into my 'old' gaming PC (2700K with 16GB ram) I know it would run Zwift, but the hassle of all the other stuff on that PC I'd need to clear off, the hassle of reinstalling it and getting everything working. Just not worth it.
I'd happily replace my AppleTV when the time comes, easily able to justify £100-200-300 on a 'Zwift device' which is cheap enough to sit in the garage only running Zwift (plugged into an old 32" TV) yet experiences no slowdowns, no performance problems, 'just works'. That is worth paying for in my eyes. I'm no Apple fanboy and it is the only Apple device I own. I work with a Directors Macbook and the issues she has really wouldn't use one myself. For context: my daily life is supporting ~57 users on 90+ Windows devices!
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Yeah, i think that's my thinking. It's not a lot of money at all for something that works. I vaguely recall issues are bluetooth connections, where it struggled with a HR strap and a Power source. I assume that's resolved on the newer ones? I did have an Apple TV the first time i tried Zwift, but had an apple watch at the time and i think that helped get around some issues.
It's not 'resolved' but a limitation of Apple. They only 'allow' 2 BT streams. Same on iPad or Macbook and I think iPhone, it's a hardware/firmware limitation so nothing Zwift/anyone can do about it. My KiCKRv5 BT stream contains the trainer (so power, trainer control and cadence) then my second is my HRM. The Apple remote isn't one of those connections.
If you're using a different power source than the trainer, while still want it controlling the turbo then you'd need to work around this BT limit. Either drop the HRM (just view on head unit/watch) so your 2 streams are your PWM and the trainer, or you can also use Companion app as a 'bridge' (on an Android handset you'd pair everything with the app, then Zwift picks that up). Although I found it flaky. Also unsure if you could hold more than 2 on an iPhone and still link to Zwift as you can't bridge some & have other sensors un-bridged you want...
For a while (when I rode with PWM due to old trainer woes) I dual recorded - the same way 2 accurate power sources are used for 'pro racing verification'. So I had my HR recorded in a second stream (along with the inaccurate trainer) on my head unit into a .fit file. I got DQ from most races for not wearing HRM, but submitting the second data set (using dual recording type tools) I got most lifted but had to ticket them to race organisers. Those who didn't admin on ZP (WTRL) or those without active admins the auto-DQ didn't get lifted. On Strava I merged back together the data I wanted from the 2 .fit files (https://gotoes.org/strava/Combine_GPX_TCX_FIT_Files.php) rather than having 2 recordings of an activity. Fiddly but for the data side on my main platform I wanted accurate (Strava) it worked. I've used the same tools when recording HRM on my Whoop and comparing it to my TICKR to compare.
Zwiftpower has a great utility for adding/viewing data from 2 activities together (although this is a .fit file added to a Zwift recording, you can do 2 fit files totally non-zwift related).
If you're using a different power source than the trainer, while still want it controlling the turbo then you'd need to work around this BT limit. Either drop the HRM (just view on head unit/watch) so your 2 streams are your PWM and the trainer, or you can also use Companion app as a 'bridge' (on an Android handset you'd pair everything with the app, then Zwift picks that up). Although I found it flaky. Also unsure if you could hold more than 2 on an iPhone and still link to Zwift as you can't bridge some & have other sensors un-bridged you want...
For a while (when I rode with PWM due to old trainer woes) I dual recorded - the same way 2 accurate power sources are used for 'pro racing verification'. So I had my HR recorded in a second stream (along with the inaccurate trainer) on my head unit into a .fit file. I got DQ from most races for not wearing HRM, but submitting the second data set (using dual recording type tools) I got most lifted but had to ticket them to race organisers. Those who didn't admin on ZP (WTRL) or those without active admins the auto-DQ didn't get lifted. On Strava I merged back together the data I wanted from the 2 .fit files (https://gotoes.org/strava/Combine_GPX_TCX_FIT_Files.php) rather than having 2 recordings of an activity. Fiddly but for the data side on my main platform I wanted accurate (Strava) it worked. I've used the same tools when recording HRM on my Whoop and comparing it to my TICKR to compare.
Zwiftpower has a great utility for adding/viewing data from 2 activities together (although this is a .fit file added to a Zwift recording, you can do 2 fit files totally non-zwift related).
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Well never thought that through. Bought a really cheap old 32" tv for a tenner. Plugged my ipad into it and it can't display the native resolution or have any built in processing to adjust scale so i've ended up with big black voids down either side of the screen! Going to keep my eye out for something a little better, as the reality is that this one isn't really an improvement over the 27" monitor i was using previously.
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Yeh old TVs are really picky about input signals and resolutions even if they have a HDMI port
Very annoying, i've used cheap old tv's in the past for similar uses and it's always been fine. Maybe once i get the Apple TV i'll be able to adjust the resolution on the device.
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I had my first power meter drop-off mid ride today. Not a good feeling when you are pushing harder while falling back to a stop. Lost about 10s stopped and ended 90s back riding solo 7km later. Battery says 23% in the app, but I think I’ll change it just to stop it happening again.
I’ve noticed my HR monitor battery seems to run-down really quickly. I’ve noticed that even when I finish riding and remove the strap, the device stays active minutes later. Is that normal behaviour? It also sometimes doesn’t wake up and I need to remove and reinsert the battery.
I’ve noticed my HR monitor battery seems to run-down really quickly. I’ve noticed that even when I finish riding and remove the strap, the device stays active minutes later. Is that normal behaviour? It also sometimes doesn’t wake up and I need to remove and reinsert the battery.
Definitely starting to feel like I’m getting some leg strength from more regular zwifting which is nice and I guess it’s that newbie gains that everyone loves.
When starting I rarely got my HR over 150 as my legs just never had the strength to push hard enough to test my cardio system.
Today I managed to hit around 165 on the hills so starting to get it a little higher
Also weirdly. My IPhone through HdMI fills the cheap tv screen whereas the iPad doesn’t so that’s a bonus. Will still keep an eye out for an Apple TV bit less urgent now.
When starting I rarely got my HR over 150 as my legs just never had the strength to push hard enough to test my cardio system.
Today I managed to hit around 165 on the hills so starting to get it a little higher
Also weirdly. My IPhone through HdMI fills the cheap tv screen whereas the iPad doesn’t so that’s a bonus. Will still keep an eye out for an Apple TV bit less urgent now.
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Really sounds like a limitation of the iPad as you've found... Although bizarre the iPhone will do other resolutions! Figure out what it's pushing out, will the iPhone do 1080p and the iPad not for some reason (it's trying to push higher and then scaling it down?).
Absolutely and totally random... Are you coming through Hereford at any point the next few weeks? I've got a surplus 42" here that's going in a skip when I next order one...
Nope and not heard anything about the Tacx software for a while. Don't know anyone who uses it and nothing on DCR about it, he quite liked the version he included in 2020 so if it's improved on that could be worth checking out.
He does note the top 'Premium HD' sub was the only way to get 1080p - https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2020/03/cycling-indoor-trainer-app-guide.html/#tacx-training-app
But it does sound steep, before getting tied into it well worth checking out the Free version and getting that working first (assume that's what you're doing)... But as with any of these things - if there's not much chatter and 'community' around it, there's usually a reason...!
Sadly not. Thanks though. Sure someone on Facebook would take it though to avoid it just being skip fodder.
Got to love winter turbo sessions, especially Zwift smash-fests. Climb off with your t-shirt and shorts completely soaked in sweat, massive puddle under the bike yet you can't feel your toes from them being blasted with a fan.
Save on washing and ruining tops by not wearing them. Shouldn't be as hot either.
I've completely fallen off my training plan this week because of work. My HRV on Garmin has been plummeting this week too.
Found a new home for it anyway - guy from my work getting into Zwift. Perfect!
Try directing the fan better?!
I'm similar though, having to be 'careful' with the Wahoo Headwind post-ride. Spend too long chatting to teammates doing a cooldown and getting distracted can rapidly get too cold!
I'll tend to 'overdress' slightly. Dressing for the outside conditions (as I'm riding in my garage which has no windows so is same temperature as outside - sometimes colder). Then as I'm actually warming up during my warmup will strip layers as I ride. I'll regularly start races/TTT's this time of year with arm warmers on, rolling them up before fully removing as things spice up. Group rides even with knee warmers. During the winter I'll even wear a windproof gilet!
It's all about keeping the bits cool that need to be, while other times keeping the other bits warm! Group riding in the winter mornings I'll regularly have toe warmers, long fingered gloves, hat and a face buff on!Save on washing and ruining tops by not wearing them. Shouldn't be as hot either.
I've completely fallen off my training plan this week because of work. My HRV on Garmin has been plummeting this week too.
FRR 'Tour Britannia' started on Saturday... So far so good, 8 stages in 9 days - but the only 'rest' day is ZRL so can see me needing to skip some stages... Not that SHE would allow me to ride on Zwift every day anyway!
Two question!
One, I got a brand new tickr hrm, and it keeps dropping out. Tested in both zwift and sufferfest (or systm :vomit: ), and regularly dropped out. It’s got no issue pairing to the phone so wondering if it’s my ant dongle. I’ve got a Suunto one on a usb extensions, wondered if it’s just not up to the job? It’s connected to cadence, speed and turbo so should be able to cope?
Secondly it’s new turbo time I think (tentative permission has been mooted by the chief finance officer, though nothing in writing as yet
). Looking at either the kickr or the neo 2, and just after recommendations. Extensively read reviews and happy with the foibles of either. Though I might potentially pick up a K v5 cheaper with the release of the new model as I don’t care about Wi-Fi.
One, I got a brand new tickr hrm, and it keeps dropping out. Tested in both zwift and sufferfest (or systm :vomit: ), and regularly dropped out. It’s got no issue pairing to the phone so wondering if it’s my ant dongle. I’ve got a Suunto one on a usb extensions, wondered if it’s just not up to the job? It’s connected to cadence, speed and turbo so should be able to cope?
Secondly it’s new turbo time I think (tentative permission has been mooted by the chief finance officer, though nothing in writing as yet
). Looking at either the kickr or the neo 2, and just after recommendations. Extensively read reviews and happy with the foibles of either. Though I might potentially pick up a K v5 cheaper with the release of the new model as I don’t care about Wi-Fi.
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Sorry for delay @platypus - wrote this on Tuesday and didn't post it!Two question!
One, I got a brand new tickr hrm, and it keeps dropping out. Tested in both zwift and sufferfest (or systm :vomit: ), and regularly dropped out. It’s got no issue pairing to the phone so wondering if it’s my ant dongle. I’ve got a Suunto one on a usb extensions, wondered if it’s just not up to the job? It’s connected to cadence, speed and turbo so should be able to cope?
Secondly it’s new turbo time I think (tentative permission has been mooted by the chief finance officer, though nothing in writing as yet
Does sound more like your Dongle. I recall those Sunnto's are pretty unreliable without the specific Windows driver installed for them, but my experience would be pre W10. No idea what they're like now but just replace it, they're cheap! Or you could (if an option) run the TICKR on BTLE, keeping the rest on ANT?
The KiCKRv5 is an amazing deal. Get one! Know at least 2 clubmates switched from Neo2T and the SE over to v5. One of them had owned a KICKR before so was returning after riding the 2T to death. I myself switched from a Neo-OG (but was S/H!) and really like the v5 in comparison. I didn't hate the Neo (coming from a Flux), but the v5 just suits my riding more. Solid. Robust. 'Just works'. Surge-y, more Sprint-y.
In the middle of FRR at the moment. Skipped Mondays stage so I could be fresher for ZRL on Tuesday so I'm out of the GC runnings.
Stage Date Course Format Distance
1 26th LONDON Triple Loops POINTS 56km/560m https://www.strava.com/activities/8170456951
2 27th LONDON PRL ITT 25km/500m No Draft https://www.strava.com/activities/8175137506
3 28th LONDON Keith Hill After Party POINTS 36km/406m SKIPPED
4 30th LONDON Pretzel POINTS 43km/256m https://www.strava.com/activities/8188625122
5 1st YORKSHIRE Harrogate Reverse POINTS 37km/650m https://www.strava.com/activities/8195110352
6 2nd YORKSHIRE Royal Pump Room 8 POINTS 44km/720m https://www.strava.com/activities/8198972835
7 3rd LONDON Surrey Hills POINTS 46km/1029m https://www.strava.com/activities/8201399074
8 4th LONDON London 8 Reverse ITT 25km/512m https://www.strava.com/activities/8208108299
ZRL 29th - https://www.strava.com/activities/8186374998
Brutal is an understatement. I don't quite know how my legs are going to be tonight for another 44km of Yorkshire...!
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Any tips on how to move forward when in a rut? I was seeing good improvements until a month ago and now it has plateaued and my legs feel stiff/lack power every time I go on the bike. It sounds like classic over training but my weekly TSS load is nearly half that of previous months.
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What does your training look like?
I was on Wahoo crit plan, medium volume with some extra volume. Typically I want to be doing a hour a day with the odd rest day thrown in and not failing workouts or otherwise not feeling up to them. Now it is a little more intermittent and lower volume.
Plateau weeks:
4.5hrs, 257 tss
5.5hrs, 315 tss
4.5hrs 294 tss
4.5hrs, 271 tss
Gaining weeks:
8.5hrs, 462 tss
4.75hrs, 341 tss
4.75hrs, 292 tss
7hrs, 317 tss
My thoughts are to just do Z2 work between now and Christmas, 1-1.5 hours a day. Over Christmas I'd like to do the Rapha 500 indoors.