The Indoor Riding/ Zwift/ TrainerRoad etc. Thread

Yep, James Bailey sorted out a GC league for it at Zwiftpower overnight too, it was apparently only ever planned to be standalone events for this trial series one https://zwiftpower.com/league.php?id=1760

Just remember to finish the route after you climb effort if you want to be in the official results and GC, only the KOM segment counts so don't bury yourself much before the beacon and after the banner.
Great! Did not know about the GC, it gives more motivation!
 
Great! Did not know about the GC, it gives more motivation!
It certainly does, I surprised myself earlier and gave it more beans than I really should be doing, but boy am I paying for that silly sub 3min effort this afternoon thanks to long covid post-exercise malaise.
 
Anyone got a fan like this, can't decide between the 18 or 20" version. Mount it on the wall above the monitor.

NETTA Gym Floor Standing Fan – 20" with 5 Blades – 3 Speed Settings and Tilt Option, Powerful Circulation, Wall Mountable, Fixtures and Fittings Included – Chrome https://amzn.eu/d/4HvgNtM
 
Anyone got a fan like this, can't decide between the 18 or 20" version. Mount it on the wall above the monitor.

NETTA Gym Floor Standing Fan – 20" with 5 Blades – 3 Speed Settings and Tilt Option, Powerful Circulation, Wall Mountable, Fixtures and Fittings Included – Chrome https://amzn.eu/d/4HvgNtM
For very similar price you can get the https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B082FGRX6B/ that has been raved about for a few years, https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B08WJ2XST9/ is the remote version.
 
Just got myself the vacmaster with remote. Will report back when I have used it in anger but currently its cooling the house down and damn does it blow a lot of air. I've been using a dyson personal fan for my zwifting up to now. This moves about 10x the amount of air. Not quiet but I don't care much about that when the temperatures are high.
 
Anyone tried Rouvy? Been seeing it creep into my social media fields. Gave it a go last night as I got home at 6pm for the next stage of crit club at 6:10. Turned on my Apple TV to find zwift needed a 3gig update. Installed Rouvy in the time it took to download.

Seems quite good. Activated a 2 week trial. Obviously it's photo realistic, much less populated though and not many events / races. Can't just jump on and find a group ride or race within next 20 minutes. I rode my local sunday ride which hugs the coats of the bay along Melbourne's inner city beaches which was quite surreal. They even have cars going past.
You can also jump into loads of famous courses and legendary climbs. See how it goes over next two weeks, I think some of the courses will be good but think I'll get bored of an empty world which is already a struggle for me given my timezone.
There's been a steady increase in the longer term 'all-year round' Zwifters I find myself riding with a lot of the time over to RGT. Most don't tend to ride outside, so their riding is almost exclusively online, until now a few rode a bit alongside Zwift as their primary, but now more of them riding RGT as primary and even 3-4 who have stopped their Zwift subs for a complete move. I've not ridden it properly since last autumn and only rode TTT's which I could do with my free account. Need to get back into it, as if anything the drafting and steering on there make it a far more engaging and interactive platform for some tactical distraction. Then again need to get back into Zwift racing a bit, all I seem to have done the last few weeks is my weekly TTT with a handful of group rides. I sweep them anyway so it's good interval training...

Several also now on MyWhoosh or whatever it's called. Real prize money drawing quite a few riders to it and they seem to not hate it and keep going back, so I'm half expecting it to be like RGT - easy to dip in & out of alongside Zwift as the Primary.

But Rouvy has been around for a while. Think the only person here who may have tried it and commented here is @UTmaniac

Anyone got a fan like this, can't decide between the 18 or 20" version. Mount it on the wall above the monitor.

NETTA Gym Floor Standing Fan – 20" with 5 Blades – 3 Speed Settings and Tilt Option, Powerful Circulation, Wall Mountable, Fixtures and Fittings Included – Chrome https://amzn.eu/d/4HvgNtM
I've got one like that, 16-18". £25 from Aldi a few years ago and it was on a pedistol I broke, so I screwed it into a piece of wood and ceiling mounted that. Works well - but I wouldn't pay that price for one.

If you're up for paying those prices get a Vacmaster. I really like my Headwind! But I wouldn't buy one for £200 or whatever they're priced at now. Got mine for around £120 in a deal on the Canyon site April '22. Came with euro plug but not a problem for the cost saving! ;)

The vacmaster and headwind both work well positioned where your front wheel is/could be. If you're short on room then replacing the wheel with some kinda fork mount and putting one of them there would be a good use of space without having to mount above. They're made to sit on the floor so quite heavy. My headwind is even offset as I didn't have enough space and keep a front wheel on, so it sits alongside it. Still works very well!

Just got myself the vacmaster with remote. Will report back when I have used it in anger but currently its cooling the house down and damn does it blow a lot of air. I've been using a dyson personal fan for my zwifting up to now. This moves about 10x the amount of air. Not quiet but I don't care much about that when the temperatures are high.
They're great air movers, but that's also what they come from - carpet drying tech where focussed massive airflow matters more than 'wafting some air'. Also means you can get some good deals on similar things without buying the ones aimed at cyclists (like the Headwind) like the vacmaster. Although they're quite 'known' now and do a 'cardio' version, there must be others to save some money and get a similar product.

I even looked at 'Space heaters' so it would be dual purpose - high airflow in the summer, then also heated in the winter. But I could never find one well rated and powered strong enough to compare to vacmaster specs and also not being propane based.
 
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There's been a steady increase in the longer term 'all-year round' Zwifters I find myself riding with a lot of the time over to RGT. Most don't tend to ride outside, so their riding is almost exclusively online, until now a few rode a bit alongside Zwift as their primary, but now more of them riding RGT as primary and even 3-4 who have stopped their Zwift subs for a complete move. I've not ridden it properly since last autumn and only rode TTT's which I could do with my free account. Need to get back into it, as if anything the drafting and steering on there make it a far more engaging and interactive platform for some tactical distraction. Then again need to get back into Zwift racing a bit, all I seem to have done the last few weeks is my weekly TTT with a handful of group rides. I sweep them anyway so it's good interval training...

Several also now on MyWhoosh or whatever it's called. Real prize money drawing quite a few riders to it and they seem to not hate it and keep going back, so I'm half expecting it to be like RGT - easy to dip in & out of alongside Zwift as the Primary.

But Rouvy has been around for a while. Think the only person here who may have tried it and commented here is @UTmaniac


I've got one like that, 16-18". £25 from Aldi a few years ago and it was on a pedistol I broke, so I screwed it into a piece of wood and ceiling mounted that. Works well - but I wouldn't pay that price for one.

If you're up for paying those prices get a Vacmaster. I really like my Headwind! But I wouldn't buy one for £200 or whatever they're priced at now. Got mine for around £120 in a deal on the Canyon site April '22. Came with euro plug but not a problem for the cost saving! ;)

The vacmaster and headwind both work well positioned where your front wheel is/could be. If you're short on room then replacing the wheel with some kinda fork mount and putting one of them there would be a good use of space without having to mount above. They're made to sit on the floor so quite heavy. My headwind is even offset as I didn't have enough space and keep a front wheel on, so it sits alongside it. Still works very well!


They're great air movers, but that's also what they come from - carpet drying tech where focussed massive airflow matters more than 'wafting some air'. Also means you can get some good deals on similar things without buying the ones aimed at cyclists (like the Headwind) like the vacmaster. Although they're quite 'known' now and do a 'cardio' version, there must be others to save some money and get a similar product.

I even looked at 'Space heaters' so it would be dual purpose - high airflow in the summer, then also heated in the winter. But I could never find one well rated and powered strong enough to compare to vacmaster specs and also not being propane based.
My wheel is under my bench. It's wall mount or nothing.

I got the fan in the end and it's ridiculous speed 1 is more than enough even for current temperatures. Plenty happy with it.
 
The new Zwift Racing Score "ranking" metric... What a dog's dinner! :cry:

@Roady What do you make of your Racing Score of ~693?

I'm ~652, looks like 3rd in pen D, I'm nothing like third strongest D rider; I do the Zwift Insider Tiny Races because I love the format and I have severe fatigue issues even racing continuously for ~25mins; plus I think they've horribly skewed my figure by using my pen A results to avoid the "no sniping" rule in Tiny Races after technology issues.
 
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The new Zwift Racing Score "ranking" metric... What a dog's dinner! :cry:

@Roady What do you make of your Racing Score of ~693?

I'm ~652, looks like 3rd in pen D, I'm nothing like third strongest D rider; I do the Zwift Insider Tiny Races because I love the format and I have severe fatigue issues even racing continuously for ~25mins; plus I think they've horribly skewed my figure by using my pen A results to avoid the "no sniping" rule in Tiny Races after technology issues.
I’m lowish B and score 555. Not really sure what it means to be honest. I don’t race very often and currently I’m doing the hill climb events which are not great for a heavier rider.

It just seems to be the zwift power score but with higher = better. Not sure why they bothered to be honest.
 
Whilst i know the easy answer here is to go and try it :p

Would a disc braked wheel physically fit on a rim brake frame? I've a disc rim with a slight cracked rim i'm debating using for the indoor turbo (wheel on), however unsure if it'd fit. Don't plan on actually using brakes for it.
 
Whilst i know the easy answer here is to go and try it :p

Would a disc braked wheel physically fit on a rim brake frame? I've a disc rim with a slight cracked rim i'm debating using for the indoor turbo (wheel on), however unsure if it'd fit. Don't plan on actually using brakes for it.

A front disc brake wheel might, it would come down to the wheel and fork having the same axle type (quick release or bolt thru).
 
Cheers. It’s the rear wheel though. Hub is the same (Shimano) and quick release.

Just unsure of width.
Hmm, I think that's a more tricky one unless you can get adapters, rear q/r rim would normally be 130mm and q/r disc would be 135mm. Bolt thru disc would normally be 142mm on a road bike, I think rim brake would be the same, but never had one.
 
Cheers

I’ll give it a go tomorrow I think and see if it fits.
Then maybe just look for a cheap rear wheel. I’m sure I’ll be able to pick one up cheap.
 
The new Zwift Racing Score "ranking" metric... What a dog's dinner! :cry:

@Roady What do you make of your Racing Score of ~693?

I'm ~652, looks like 3rd in pen D, I'm nothing like third strongest D rider; I do the Zwift Insider Tiny Races because I love the format and I have severe fatigue issues even racing continuously for ~25mins; plus I think they've horribly skewed my figure by using my pen A results to avoid the "no sniping" rule in Tiny Races after technology issues.
I can't make much sense of my provisional Zwift Racing Score of 626. I'm a lowish cat A and from a quick sample it looks like are a lot of people that have finished behind me in races with better ZRS scores and worse ZwiftPower Race Rankings.
 
I can't make much sense of my provisional Zwift Racing Score of 626. I'm a lowish cat A and from a quick sample it looks like are a lot of people that have finished behind me in races with better ZRS scores and worse ZwiftPower Race Rankings.
I think zwiftpower is very biased towards the large events where you have lots of good riders to give a ‘high’ race quality. I did the alpe as part of the hill climb series today and despite coming 3 of 6 with 52:32, my zwiftpower race result is 462. With most race series you are only compared with your category even if it is mass start, so unless you beat those with better scores, you don’t really improve. It is slightly odd as you end up with Cs and Ds with higher race score/lower zwiftpower scores despite being significantly slower in a race. I find it quite hard to score well as most races I struggle to stay with the lead pack (B) and therefore you don’t finish in front of that many riders to gain points regardless of race numbers and race quality. I have seen the lead C rider with a slower time will outscore me even if I have spent 60% of the race solo. As they are first of a large group, whereas I am towards the back.
 
I think zwiftpower is very biased towards the large events where you have lots of good riders to give a ‘high’ race quality. I did the alpe as part of the hill climb series today and despite coming 3 of 6 with 52:32, my zwiftpower race result is 462. With most race series you are only compared with your category even if it is mass start, so unless you beat those with better scores, you don’t really improve. It is slightly odd as you end up with Cs and Ds with higher race score/lower zwiftpower scores despite being significantly slower in a race. I find it quite hard to score well as most races I struggle to stay with the lead pack (B) and therefore you don’t finish in front of that many riders to gain points regardless of race numbers and race quality. I have seen the lead C rider with a slower time will outscore me even if I have spent 60% of the race solo. As they are first of a large group, whereas I am towards the back.
I suspect you're right, a lot seems to hinge on race quality. I guess longer term the new ZRS scoring will sort itself out, but initially there may be a lot of racers in inappropriate pens and inadvertently messing up events.
Something I read suggested that it's only the Zracing series that are now being scored for the new ZRS, so as a change from keeping a robopacer company this morning, I had a go at stage 1 of this month's 'beach party' series. Only about 5 cat A's signed up, 3 of us turned up in the pen which dropped to 2 before the start, and then I was the only one to actually set off so it turned into an unscored lonely time trial workout. If all the Zracing opportunities around 8am are all as 'dead' then I can't see my score changing in a hurry (not that it bothers me as I'm not that into the racing).
p.s. well done for the result and Alpe time.
 
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