* The Metal Thread *

I'm with Dimple on this one. I am also of the generation that saw the genesis of rock categorisation and sub-categorisation. It annoyed me then and it annoys me now.

Long live rock!

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Q.E.D. :rolleyes:

I also agree with Mr Poole to a certain extent - my comment was deliberately facetious because he was using grammatical semantics knock another persons opinion. Pointless badgering gets on my wick and misspelling something doesn't invalidate someone opinion as it is just that - their opinion.

However there is basis for a musical evolutionary argument based around the development of music. At what stage does a sub genre become a genre of its own? Rock came from Blues so based on this one could arguably call rock blues, and ergo metal blues. In fact there is undeniably elements of blues in many metal bands music.

My personal feeling is that there is a great amount of crossover and as such Metal is still in the majority of its forms a sub genre of rock. There isn't enough separation in the styles to strongly suggest an argument to the contrary IMO. It's not like comparing swing to rock or classical to hip hop.
 
It's certainly not a point worth arguing about. :)

I think that the first time I heard the term heavy metal applied to music was during the NWOBM. If you read that article you will see several bands that people today wouldn't dream of labelling heavy metal. Then again, it is a Wikipedia article written by Joe Public...

Didn't help that my teenage mind was further confused by the movie Heavy Metal which was, of course, named after the magazine rather than the genre. Spent a worried time working out how Blue Oyster Cult, Devo and Nazereth were heavy metal like my beloved Maiden :D
 
My Dying Bride I like. Opeth, Ahab, Isis, Rosetta and Agalloch I listen to already.

Reminded me of the new Draconian album 'A rose for the Acopalypse'


I'm not really a huge fan of My Dying Bride, but I think the vocals are brilliant. I've never heard of Draconian but I love female vocals in metal, so I will check em out, thanks!

A similiar band I do like though are Novembre:





The love pretty much everything they've done so far. The music is generally depressing, but at same time it has this classically beautiful and romantic aesthetic to it; very powerful and moving at times. The vocals are also excellent in my opinion.
 
I also agree with Mr Poole to a certain extent - my comment was deliberately facetious because he was using grammatical semantics knock another persons opinion.

I didn't knock their opinion.
I was correcting the fact that Lou Reed asked Metallica to play on the Lulu album and it wasn't a Metallica album.
 
So I listened to a band called Chunk! No, Captain Chunk! yesterday, and for about 20 seconds, I thought they would be amazing....but then they suddenly became a pop band. Much disappointing:


If anyone knows any bands with a vocalist similar to the first 20 seconds of that song let me know. Conducting for the Grave is probably closest.

What I'm listening to at the moment:


 
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I'm not really a huge fan of My Dying Bride, but I think the vocals are brilliant. I've never heard of Draconian but I love female vocals in metal, so I will check em out, thanks!

A similiar band I do like though are Novembre:





The love pretty much everything they've done so far. The music is generally depressing, but at same time it has this classically beautiful and romantic aesthetic to it; very powerful and moving at times. The vocals are also excellent in my opinion.

I liked Novembre, will check them out.
 
I hope they go back to that style they played on Catch 33 - the whole album felt more like a journey than anything they've done before or since. Obzen was great but seemed more like individual songs than a cohesive album. Plus it was way too screechy and grating on the ears. I like the softer but deeper sound of Catch 33 and Nothing (remastered version).
 
I hope they go back to that style they played on Catch 33 - the whole album felt more like a journey than anything they've done before or since. Obzen was great but seemed more like individual songs than a cohesive album. Plus it was way too screechy and grating on the ears. I like the softer but deeper sound of Catch 33 and Nothing (remastered version).

Nothing and Catch 33 are my favourites. Hoping they come up with something similar also, but all of their albums are unique so who knows :)
 
I do yeah.
I guess I just like the seemless fluidity of those other albums more. I hear the original version of Nothing suffered from guitar tuning problems etc?

Yeah basically the recording quality is "worse", it sounds more raw, some people prefer the original :)

I absolutely love Rational Gaze, such an amazing song, and crushingly heavy :p
 
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