The MSI Neo2 Platinum Owners Help Thread

Yeah, sorry mate... I did realise that just as I pressed SEND, but was so thick that even though I went to edit, I still closed the page???? - Thats just me though, thick as a brick.

Erm, What slot do I have my cards in?

Ok, go to www.fatrakoon.co.uk/pc/mb-neo2.htm and you can see what they are in...

Top to bottom:-

Radeon 9800Pro ( AGP ) then the next 2 PCI slots are taken up by the GFX Cooler
The IDE card is in the bottom bar one... The Bottom one, then the Audigy 1 above that... I opted for the Audigy 1 in this box cos the LiveDrive doesnt work with the Audigy 2, btu there is not really any difference in quality or speed with either of them, so its not like I care.

Thats basically it really!

My current concern at the mo, is that I am using a SATA Drive as C: and its sustained rate is only 55.7 and the Maxtor IDE was 96, so I am right on the decision line of getting rid of SATA, and this is made even more annoying because this SATA Drive is much, much quicker than a 36GB Raptor in the barton.

I Bloody hate it when things like this happen... No excuses.
 
They are on

I have tried DISABLING them, there is absolutely no difference at all, which is annoying

Also tried removing the NV Drivers and just using the Windows ones, and while the performace was upped a tad for general use, I tried watching a DVD earlier on, while I burned a CD and when it finished writing and went to verify, it hung the DVD for a few seconds... Not good enough, so I put the NV ones back on, and thats fixed, but xfer rate is still a poor 52.3 this time... For a supposedly 150 limit, this is just not on... I dont expect the full 150, I am not greedy, but I do expect more than a bloody ATA66 rate for sure!
 
What sort of SATA drive is it? Most SATA drives aren't much faster than IDE drives. The interface just provides a larger potential bandwidth; most of the SATA drives can't utilise that bandwidth. If you've observed better performance with an IDE drive versus a SATA drive of similar specifications, then that is slightly strange, though.
 
Its a Seagate 80GB SATA

I wont go looking at the label of it right now, but DEVICE MANAGER displays it as an ST380817AS

DMA is on, and its down as transfer mode SERIAL ATA DMA, with letting BIOS set XFER mode, and write cacheing enabled.

I dont know what speeds this drive was getting in the NF7s & Barton PC, but at the time I bought it ( only about 2 months ago ) Inoticed it was a hell of a lot quicker than the Raptor 36GB but since throwing it onto this PC, its not been all that much aof a speedster and I am not impressed at all with it anymore really!
 
I never did any benchmarks on the Raptor while I had it.

I wanted real believable figures so I just used it... Copying large files and small files to it and from it, copy them within the drive and so on... It was fast for sure, with smaller files, but no faster with larger files, and the Seagate was a fair bit faster at everything.

I also ran it as my C: for a week or so, but found that it made the PC feel a little slower than one the £20 40GB Maxtors.

Benchmarks are a pile of total crud, and mean bugger all to real world truth, so I never really bother at all in taking any kind of readings.

Yes, I agree that th raptors are expensive for a reason... The 74GB one is expensive because it really is a fast HD, while the 36GB one is expensive because it has the same name as the 74GB one but its a bloody slow pile of poo if you ask me.... Its no faster than a good ATA133 Drive, just 3-4 times more expensive.

I have just this minute ran a benchmark on the drive ( And after sayign all that I just said too eh? )

The Seagate 80GB has a WRITE speed of 37MB/s and a READ of 43MB/s

The Maxtors ATA133 has a Write speed of 36MB/s and a READ of 62MB/s

These figures were had by Performance Test 4, while The Device Manager tests showed a little better tonight with a speed of 51, but as to whether this is R or W or R & W I dont know?

I have a number of the Maxtor 40GB Drives as they are so cheap, and tonight, I am going to do a fresh install for tests, onto thse drives with both the Barton and the AMD64 and I have done replica Installation DVDs that are ( I hope ) going to also install a load of benches etc, and I will run them side by side and see what numbers I do get out of them, as I am sure that the HD is not to blame, but rather the Mobo?

I dont know?

Its my birthday on the 3rd Aug and mummy has given me the money for my new DFI Mobo so I will run them side by side too for a laugh

( Side by side meaning one after the other cos I only got one CPU of course )
 
DasFruitMachine said:
Hum, that does sound strange. I've heard nothing but good things about Raptors. The raptor should definitely be faster than a slower IDE or SATA drive.
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Think about the last bit... Kinda obvious if oyu think about it.

I know what you mean though, but check out what many others say about the 36GB Raptors though! - they are nowhere near as fast as WD make out.

Saying that, even when WD brought out the so-called fastest HD in the world, which at the time was their 80GB job, it was slower than a lot of other HDs, and I fell for the rubbish, got one, and ended up using it as a backup drive cos it was only about 85% the speed of the 80 Maxtor I had.
 
With a BIOS flash, it should be no problem. All Socket 939 boards should accept X2 chips if a supporting BIOS is available. Check the BIOS history/changelog of MSI's Neo2 product page and it should have an entry regarding X2 processors.
 
Sorry to change the subject but I'm having a problem with the onboard sound, the left and right channels are louder than centre and rear any ideas how I can change I've tried MSI, nvidia, and realtek drivers all with the same result - I can't :(, and it means that when watching dvd's I can't hear the speech properly.
By the way I only noticed because I'm using zalman surround sound headphoines couldn't tell with my surround sound speakers.
Any ideas guys?
 
i have the same headphones start/control panel/sounds and audio devices/advanced....if you dont see the sliders you want go options properties and tick the ones you need...love these headphones in battlefield 2 i can hear the enemy come up from behind to my left /right etc...
 
slatey said:
i have the same headphones start/control panel/sounds and audio devices/advanced....if you dont see the sliders you want go options properties and tick the ones you need...love these headphones in battlefield 2 i can hear the enemy come up from behind to my left /right etc...
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The sliders are visible but moving them up and down makes no difference and I can't mute the channels either.
 
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