The MSI Neo2 Platinum Owners Help Thread

This is not the BIOS itself as its not a normal thing, as you know...

I would say that the file was corrupted, or that it has not been installed properly before actually blaming the BIOS.

If this had happened, I would just put the original BIOS back, or re-try the BIOS file.

Where did you get your 1.9 BIOS File from?
 
Hmm... There isnt really that much to go wrong with flashing the BIOS on this board?

You say you are installing Windows again now, so that obviously means that the board is picking the drives up surely... Otherwise you wont be able to install???

I have to admit, I used the LiveUpdate rubbish... I dont trut them 100%, but at least if it does go wrong ( Well, if I notice it anyway ) then I still have a fully running setup and I can always try again till it does work... When doing it from a Floppy ( Not recommended ) or a MO Drive etc, if it goes wrong, I am often stuffed unless I have a choice of BIOS files to work with on the disk.

Anyway, next time, try the LIVE UPDATE way... some avoid it, but it seems to dothe job for me on my MSI Boards just fine.

Hang on... Just had a thought... You have your system overclocked dont you?

Well, did you flash the BIOS while it was clocked?

IF you did, then I dont need to explain do I?
 
FatRakoon said:
Hmm... There isnt really that much to go wrong with flashing the BIOS on this board?

You say you are installing Windows again now, so that obviously means that the board is picking the drives up surely... Otherwise you wont be able to install???

I have to admit, I used the LiveUpdate rubbish... I dont trut them 100%, but at least if it does go wrong ( Well, if I notice it anyway ) then I still have a fully running setup and I can always try again till it does work... When doing it from a Floppy ( Not recommended ) or a MO Drive etc, if it goes wrong, I am often stuffed unless I have a choice of BIOS files to work with on the disk.

Anyway, next time, try the LIVE UPDATE way... some avoid it, but it seems to dothe job for me on my MSI Boards just fine.

Hang on... Just had a thought... You have your system overclocked dont you?

Well, did you flash the BIOS while it was clocked?

IF you did, then I dont need to explain do I?
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Drives didnt detect, so i flashed back to an older BIOS, and reinstalled windows while running the older BIOS. Never touhed the liveupdate thing, dont think i want to either now.

BIOS was'nt flashed while overclocked
 
The Live Update could be lethal. I have seen these mess up far too often. Mainly due to the complexities of windoze memory management going on while the BIOS is being flashed.

A floppy flash is always the safest. Just needs to be a plain boot floppy without memory managers. With a boot floppy you always get to know if it fails, so you have the choice of immediatly putting the old BIOS back in.

Re: Acolyte's missing disks. Would this still misbehave if you only have a single drive attached? Could it be a firmware thing with one of your drives? I also assume they all have Master/Slave set instead of using Cable Select. Though I have heard of some people fixing similar problems by using Cable Select. And do you still have good quality cables? (i.e. not using cheap "rounded" cables)

When flashing any BIOS, the first thing you must do after a reboot is "reset to defaults" and then apply your custom settings.

And the Rakoon's right - don't flash while overclocked. :)

(Ohh - you just posted again while I was typing... I see no o/c. So why BIOS 1.41? Why so old?)
 
Wanted to try v1.41 (Its the newest modded version that isnt the new style of BIOS)

To see if it improves stability while overclocking at all.

Cant see why cables would be at fault? computer has been working flawlessly with them for the past 5 months with the old BIOS.

Doesnt matter now anyways, cheers anyway :)
 
FatRakoon: So what is this new layout in the 1.9 BIOS? Is it dramatically different, or more a set of tweaks? Few extra values?

I'm still on the 1.5 so not sure if it is worth the update. :)
 
Well, its all the same, its justthe layout thats slightly different.

Few things I expected to be here, were there, but its all still there pretty much... I may be wrong, due to the layout being different, but its certainly clearer.

Erm, hell, now you are asking...

I suppose I could take a few snaps of the BIOS screen maybe?

I got to take the kids to the park now, so when I get back, I will take a coupel of snaps and post them on my site, then give you a link.

Erm, if your PC is running perfectly fine, then I say that you dont have to bother updating the BIOS... Why fix somethign that isnt broken?
 
FatRakoon said:
Erm, if your PC is running perfectly fine, then I say that you dont have to bother updating the BIOS... Why fix somethign that isnt broken?
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That is my main quote in computers - If it ain't broke, don't fix it. :D

I am mainly asking due to curiosity. And as they say... Curiosity Killed The Cat (Or was that just a dodgy band from the 80's... :D)
 
Acolyte said:
I got the BIOS file from the MSI website.

I flash it using the AWD833D.exe flash file programme.
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I flashed to the 1.9 BIOS recently after I killed my windows install :p

I found it only flashed it properly if I used the Parameters after the bios file name.
 
Arent you supposed to do that anyway??

As in

AWDFLASH.EXE BIOSFILE.BIN /XX /YY /BLAHDEBLAH

I am happy to say, that I have over a dozen PCs, all have been flashed, some with some really thick experimental BIOSes ( DFI & NF7s have been flashed with every single BIOS I can find in the quest for overclocking sweetness ), and also my customers PCs have more often than not been updated by myself and I am hapy to say, that in the many hundreds of times, I have flashed the BIOS, there is only one PC that I did fail to flash, and that was my own, and even then, it was for an old Gigabyte 633 or 663 or whatever, and even then I had 2 of those boards, and I recovered from it a few hours later.

With flashing, of course 9/10 times its through DOS but when I can, I use a live update and never have I had any issues!

Not once!

I honestly think that if a flash does fail, then its probably down to user error rather than any problems with the BIOS or Flash program.

I may be wrong and have just been lucky, and if I have, then thats great.
 
i bought an msi k8n neo2-54g platinum board and athlon64 3500+ (venice) from overclockers last week only to find that when i installed theM my pc wouldnt boot! ...IT BOOTED BEFORE! the POST screen is fine the bios is fine but when i get to the windows loading screen it just reboots!

anyone help?

i tried resetting the cmos jbat1 and no joy! tried different memory...no joy! my setup is as follows:
mobo and cpu as mentioned b4
1gig ddr333 (2x512 modules @ 2.5,3,3,7)
1x ide maxtor 200gb 8meg cache with win xp mce (slave)
1x ide seagate barracuda 160gb with win xp home (master)
1x pioneer dvr 109
1x matSHITa 16x dvd rom
his excalibur 9800 pro
philips aurillium psc 805 usb(dont ask why) soundcard
Ideazone usb zboard
Arctic Cooling silentium T1 Case with 350w PSU
 
FatRakoon said:
Arent you supposed to do that anyway??

As in

AWDFLASH.EXE BIOSFILE.BIN /XX /YY /BLAHDEBLAH
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Thats what I have always thought but, If you read the MSI site it states

AWDFLASH.EXE BIOSFILE.BIN

The problem is without using the parameters it does not reflash the whole bios. It just flashes the bits that it thinks are different.

I must admit that I've only ever had one bios chip that failed beyond recovery. Never had problems flashing them as such and if they did refuse to flash in the board I could always stick them in the programmer ;)
 
As I said previously... I have used the LIVEUPDATE rubbish to flash my Mobo, and I have only done it twice... Once when I got it to take it to v1.8, and once agfain the other day to see about the 1.9 Errors Acolyte had, but mine is perfectly fine.

I agree that the MSI site does not give us the switches however, although they may be hidden, I did not see them )

So, what are the switches to use with this one then?

Did Acolyte use any switches?

If so, what did he use?

Well Acolyte? What did you use?
 
InvisibleKid said:
i bought an msi k8n neo2-54g platinum board and athlon64 3500+ (venice) from overclockers last week only to find that when i installed theM my pc wouldnt boot! ...IT BOOTED BEFORE! the POST screen is fine the bios is fine but when i get to the windows loading screen it just reboots!

anyone help?

i tried resetting the cmos jbat1 and no joy! tried different memory...no joy! my setup is as follows:
mobo and cpu as mentioned b4
1gig ddr333 (2x512 modules @ 2.5,3,3,7)
1x ide maxtor 200gb 8meg cache with win xp mce (slave)
1x ide seagate barracuda 160gb with win xp home (master)
1x pioneer dvr 109
1x matSHITa 16x dvd rom
his excalibur 9800 pro
philips aurillium psc 805 usb(dont ask why) soundcard
Ideazone usb zboard
Arctic Cooling silentium T1 Case with 350w PSU
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Ok, couple of notes to verify first thing is first..

1. Your RAM.
Its only DDR333, thats 166FSB in english money, so make sure that the Mobo is not going to take it to 200FSB. And slacken them off too! give them the best chance you can. ( Timings I mean, not physically )
Also, try one stick at a time too! - make sure they are both ok.

2. The PSU.
This might be an option too! - Yes, its a nice one, but the end of the day, its still only an ickle freefitty and might not be up to the job?

Try removing one HD and perhaps only having one HD and nothing else maybe, and try that out


InvisibleKid said:
philips aurillium psc 805 usb(dont ask why) soundcard
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Why?
 
Unsure if this is board related, or PSU related atm.

Only lately it seems my 3.3v rail has dropped considerably.

Sitting at 3.08 at default clocks on a 3200 Venice.

I get reboots at random intervals, always in game though. I put my DDR booster back in.. and raise the vdimm up to around 3.2V on my Patriots and my bios reports the 3.3v rail being raised to around 3.3v.

I run back into windows and I'm getting reports of it back down to 3.1,

What kinda results do you guys have running on your Neo2? Are they all low, or just mine?
(I'll get a multimeter on the 3.3v rail while under load tomorrow to get a proper reading)
I have a Tagan 480W, which has worked superbly... but I'm unsure if its the psu, or board buggering up.

Your guesses?
 
FatRakoon said:
Ok, couple of notes to verify first thing is first..

1. Your RAM.
Its only DDR333, thats 166FSB in english money, so make sure that the Mobo is not going to take it to 200FSB. And slacken them off too! give them the best chance you can. ( Timings I mean, not physically )
Also, try one stick at a time too! - make sure they are both ok.

2. The PSU.
This might be an option too! - Yes, its a nice one, but the end of the day, its still only an ickle freefitty and might not be up to the job?

Try removing one HD and perhaps only having one HD and nothing else maybe, and try that out




Why?
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Yeh sorry shoulda really mentioned this b4 but i tried all of those options with the memory and still had the same problems! to top that i tried all those options with my mates single 512mb ddr400 module and still no joy!

about that fsb tho, the minimum setting i could get was 200 nowhere below but it still had my ram set to 166...weird!

also i tried my old 500w psu and still no joy(still wish it would fit the silentium tho!!)

tried just one hdd and no optical drives (to test the psu yeh!?).....STILL NO BLOODY JOY!

the motherboard was B-GRADE stock so was just wondering if i could be that!

finally, since posting the last time i have tried another option....installing windows fresh seeing as tho everything works bar windows i thought "hey, why not" both OS's already installed are ntfs so i installed a fresh copy of XP MCE with a fat 32 file system this worked when i installed WITH the new mobo and cpu! only after first attempting to install with the old mobo, it didnt work once the cpu and mobo were transplanted. anyway to be less confusing (if thats at all poss' after this shiznit!) it works! only:

1. 3dmark 2003 shows the cpu as (unknown cpu) @ 2212mhz!!?
2. every SECOND time i reboot/boot from power off the mouse doesn't work unless i reboot! thats EVERY SECOND time without fail!(whats with that?)
3. THIS SUCKS! PLEASE HELP ME! i only upgraded cause my g/f wants a new pc for her b-day so i thought i'd jus give her my olde athlon xp 2600+ and mobo....WHICH WORK BLOODY FINE!

i need to get this thing sent back tomorrow if i have no joy still think its faulty with not displaying the right cpu in 3dmark!

i HAVE installed the drivers for mobo and cpu even tho it works i want/NEED it to work with my old O/S! any idea why it doesn't but still works with a fresh install!!?

Thanks Si

P.S. that usb soudcard.....its like this:
you know when your in pc-world(is that jus me?) just to check out prices(honest)! was looking at souncards, only had 50 bucks(yes 50 bucks) with me and being ****** with my ac97 onboard "5.1"(ha!) i bought the only soundcard in the 50 bucks region that had an optical output! one o those impuse buy things! to be honest i just wanted to see how a usb card would perform!!!oh well now you know(everyone feel free to slap me!! i'll start it off *Slaps Self! :eek: *)
 
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What do you mean by "you want it to work with your old OS?". Are you trying to just transplant your hard drive from an old machine to a new one? This will be why it won't work due to the changes in the disk controllers, etc. It would need a fresh install.

But saying that.... with your fresh install test, the results you are getting just aren't right. It's hard to say what to think of the B-Grade stock. Why was it B-Grade? Missing manuals and bits, or has someone else already been through this pain?

3DMark probally will say your CPU is 2212Mhz - what is it clocked at? 3D Mark 2003 will be too old to know how to call your CPU a 3500.

Re-missing mouse. Have you tried a different USB port? How many other USB devices you got in there? Remove a few or use a Powered USB Hub.
 
they didnt tell me why it was b-grade although on the mobo was a tag with an rma number sayin "dual channel not working" tho dual channel does work!!! its a ps/2 mouse!
and yes i want the hard drives to jus work with the new board! shouldnt the os on the hard drive work with a new board and chip?
Si
 
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