The MSI Neo2 Platinum Owners Help Thread

Yeah, it happens quite a lot more than it should... Its probably somethign has simply come lose while you were moving it about!

Check all the cables and make sure your RAM & CPU are seated properly, as well as the PCI cards and AGP too of course!
 
Winnie 3000+ o/clock

Hi all,
Still fiddling around for best overclock got LA G-Skill ram (2x512) read article about max memoty out set timings (1T) to 2.5-4-6-3 (DDR333) As it appears in msi bios better known in normal circles as 2.5-4-3-6 2.65v for v.dimm memory passes memtest86 now that I have maxed out my memory what are my other best options for best stable overclock can anyone help I don't want to fry the beast but I am curious to know what I can achieve on air (Freezer64) stabily and not mad mad hot

Cheers people

Athlon 64 3000+ Win
Radeon 9800 pro 128meg
Freezer 64
MSI K8N Neo 2
2 sticks G-Skill 512meg pc3200
Part NosF1-3200PHU2-1GBLA
0502000505/0502000506
260 x 9 = 2340mhz
HT mult=4
memory divided to DDR266
Temp stable at 41
 
Your HT is set to 4 but you are clocking the FSB to 260
260x4 = 1040 and I think it should be as close to 1000 as possible without going over it.
Correct me if I am wrong on that however...

Mine goes perfectly fine to 298FSB x 10 Multi ( Volts needed over 230, and +10% to hit 300 ) but due to the temp monitor on this board being a total liar, I have lept it at a sensible 250FSB, and my HTT is 4 to give it exactly 1000. Plus of course, it makes numbers easier to see and know.
 
anyone running bios 1.AO im getting a AMD Athlon 64 X2 Dual Core 4400+ and would like to know if it is stable.i have just flashed via the liveupdate to 1.8AO which does not appear on msi site only via the liveupdate ..seems to have everything the 1.AO has...
 
Farty two said:
each time i boot my pc if it's been off at the power switch for some time my usb devices are'nt always detected anyone else have this problem :confused:
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I have a BT USB Modem that fails to work.

Unplugging and plugging back in gets it going.

Annoyingly, when I unplug it, it gives the normal sound so it knows that I have unplugged something, even though it does not appear in the DEVMGR as itself or as an unknown, but plugging it back in cures it as I said.

My keyboard, Mouse, SD Card reader, Printer, etc all work perfectly fine, its just my USB Modem.

I do have a Belkin USB & firewire card that I might just chuck in, but to be honest, I never shut the PC down, so its not been too much hassle... Just an annoyance.

Restarting is ok as is shutting down, its just after I switch off at the mains that I have the problem... I never shutdown usually, so I dont care about it
 
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Farty two and FatRakoon: to solve your USB problems, buy a Powered USB Hub.

Various items that get plugged in via USB make huge demands on the current. Especially USB ADSL modems. I have often see this happen on customer PCs where too many items are plugged in, making too heavy demands on the PC, and the USB shuts off or restarts.

Purchase a USB Powered Hub. This will mean that the hub itself will then supply the power for your devices. This will take the load of the PC and you will probally find your life is much easier. :)

Hubs also make the USB ports more accessable as it will sit on your desk.

Brand won't matter - just make sure it is USB 2.0 and has it's own power supply.
 
No, I cannot be bothered wit ha HUB... I just got rid of one to a mate anyway.

My keyboard has a USB port, and I find that usefull for FlashDisks but thats about it.

The Modem is just on my side here, and as I said, I never shutdown all that much anyway, and its only when I power off that I get the problem, so for myself I dont find it a problem at all... Just somethign that has caught me out a couple of times, but thats because its so long between any reason to shut down, that I just forget about it.

And also as I said previously, I have a USB PCI Card that I may or may not use?
 
FatRakoon said:
No, I cannot be bothered wit ha HUB... I just got rid of one to a mate anyway.
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Don't complain about USB problems then. :rolleyes:

Check the specs of your USB ADSL modem and you will see that it will demand the full 500mA that a USB controller can supply. So anything else on that same controller will push it beyond spec.

You may get some joy by trying to isolate that ADSL modem onto it's own USB controller (playing with Device Manager and looking at what it is plugged into and get it onto it's own). Otherwise just suffer in silence if you don't want to fix the problem.

A USB add-on card can also suffer simliar problems. Especially if it is using a VIA chipset.


Farty two: I am not just making up my advice - a USB Hub will all most definatly solve your problems.
 
MAllen said:
Don't complain about USB problems then. :rolleyes:

Check the specs of your USB ADSL modem and you will see that it will demand the full 500mA that a USB controller can supply. So anything else on that same controller will push it beyond spec.

You may get some joy by trying to isolate that ADSL modem onto it's own USB controller (playing with Device Manager and looking at what it is plugged into and get it onto it's own). Otherwise just suffer in silence if you don't want to fix the problem.

A USB add-on card can also suffer simliar problems. Especially if it is using a VIA chipset.


Farty two: I am not just making up my advice - a USB Hub will all most definatly solve your problems.
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I have not complained about it, and if I did, when?

F2 merely asked if anyone else had a similar problem, and I pointed out to him that I have had the same issue, but also that I didnt really care too much as its only a problem when I start it up.

Yes, other USB devices can suffer similar problems, but if I was to use the Belkin USB & Firewire card, this wont give me anmy problems as it is powered, but as I said before, I can live with it and I do shut up... Again, this is why I have never moaned about it... I have accepted it as a feature of the board and I dont care about it as I never usually switch off!

So whats the big deal?

Hang on... I have read through the previous posts, and it does look like I rejecting your advise... I am sorry if it sounds like that, I am genuinnely not, thank you for the advise, but honestly its not a problem that I cannot cure, its not really a problem at all for me, but it is somethign that I will definitely be wanting to cure one day, its just that I honestly dont mind it imply because its so easily cured by just yanking the cable out and then back in!
 
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thanks for the advice it's nice to know i'm not alone. i'll try a hub though just to see what happens :D
funny that a friend said the same thing today as well.

No it's not a problem just one of those things that gets on your nerves, as you hope it's gonna work.

strange that my old system with a nasty trigem alaska board and celery processor never had this problem even though i had all four usb slots taken up :confused: no biggy


one other thing is i get crackling sound in the background on some games including BF2 but i can play a cd or movie or even some games wiith no problems...........this and the usb thing are my only quibbles with an otherwise good board.
 
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I dotn have any issues with the Sound.

I am currently using the Audigy 1 as I need to use the LiveDrive, and will need to for the forseable future too!

I have never tried the onboard on this PC, but some say its good, but there is only one motherboard I have ever owned that I have been impressed with the onboard sound, and thats the Abit NF7S... Everything else simply doesnt cut it, and I doubt this one is any different, which is stupid really, but there you go!

Actually, I have had a few boards that have had some USB problem with some USB hardware... Also had plenty that have been just fine too... The MSI Delta and the Abit NF7 can suddenly forget there is a Mouse connected when it boots up requiring me to pop it out then in again, the Abit KD7R also has an issue with USB mice too, so I have solved that with a PS/2 adapter, so its reared its ugly head a lot with the many many Mobos I have had in the past, and I have no doubt that I will get them in future too, but as Mallen says, if its that much of an issue for me, I will get a USB HUB.
 
Sputnik II said:
Did you flash the Bios from dos? and if so did you use the switches after the file name ?

i.e. awdflash.exe filename.bin /cc /cd /py.......... so on and so forth ?

Try Here for full info on the switches and what they do.
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v1.3 bios was so bad it would not even detect my floppy drive (yes the cable is the right was around) so i could not DOS Flash :( I had to use the stupid Liveupdate program and would only let me flash to V1.A0 which is official and on the MSI website After v1.9.
 
FatRakoon said:
Your HT is set to 4 but you are clocking the FSB to 260
260x4 = 1040 and I think it should be as close to 1000 as possible without going over it.
Correct me if I am wrong on that however...

Mine goes perfectly fine to 298FSB x 10 Multi ( Volts needed over 230, and +10% to hit 300 ) but due to the temp monitor on this board being a total liar, I have lept it at a sensible 250FSB, and my HTT is 4 to give it exactly 1000. Plus of course, it makes numbers easier to see and know.
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Mine is 11x210MHz - 2310MHz with 2-3-3-10 1T @ core V1.475 and V2.85 mem and HTT is 5X 1050 i think.

would it be better to run it at the above, or:

11x220MHz - 2420MHz odd with 2.5-3-3-10 1T @ v1.500 And v2.85 memory with HTT @ 4x 880 odd.

Does a HTT of 880 or 1000 odd make much difference to the performance?

ta.

PSU 550W
3500+ @ 2310MHz @ 30C constant
1gig BH5 OCZ Gold
120gig Maxtor 8mb cache IDE
6600GT @ 560/1100
Freezer64

i get random non boots with windows, where it just wont boot....really weird will post and show windows logo but not enter the OS. any ideas? It does this BOth overclocked and NOT overclocked.

Also i use a router to surf Zyxel P650H-31 when the machine is off the router light ont he lan turns green from orange, which indicates a 10mb connection where as the orange indicates a 100mb connection, should this happen?
 
Angel_Rex said:
Mine is 11x210MHz - 2310MHz with 2-3-3-10 1T @ core V1.475 and V2.85 mem and HTT is 5X 1050 i think.

would it be better to run it at the above, or:

11x220MHz - 2420MHz odd with 2.5-3-3-10 1T @ v1.500 And v2.85 memory with HTT @ 4x 880 odd.

Does a HTT of 880 or 1000 odd make much difference to the performance?

ta.

PSU 550W
3500+ @ 2310MHz @ 30C constant
1gig BH5 OCZ Gold
120gig Maxtor 8mb cache IDE
6600GT @ 560/1100
Freezer64

i get random non boots with windows, where it just wont boot....really weird will post and show windows logo but not enter the OS. any ideas? It does this BOth overclocked and NOT overclocked.

Also i use a router to surf Zyxel P650H-31 when the machine is off the router light ont he lan turns green from orange, which indicates a 10mb connection where as the orange indicates a 100mb connection, should this happen?
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To be honest mate... I have found next to no difference in performance between any of the HT settings!!! - When I first got this board, I didnt know bugger all about this HT info... Still dont really, but I was running it at 1x for days and then I pushed it up to 5x as thats what the BIOS put it to... And there was no difference ( noticably anyway ) in the performance?

Hell, its even been running at 300FSB wit hthe HTT at 5x and its still just fine, so what it really does I simply dont know?

I have however read that its supposed to be 1000 or under, so thats really why I settled on a 250FSB and a 4xHTT... Sums are not my big point, but 4x250 is easy, so thats whay thats there... I could just as happily throw the CPUV up to full blast, add the +10% CPU v and play at 300FSB all day, but thats nto going to make this HT = 1000 is it? I will have to go 3x for 900.

Seriously though mate, I dont really think it makes muchdifference at all.
 
FatRakoon said:
To be honest mate... I have found next to no difference in performance between any of the HT settings!!! - When I first got this board, I didnt know bugger all about this HT info... Still dont really, but I was running it at 1x for days and then I pushed it up to 5x as thats what the BIOS put it to... And there was no difference ( noticably anyway ) in the performance?

Hell, its even been running at 300FSB wit hthe HTT at 5x and its still just fine, so what it really does I simply dont know?

I have however read that its supposed to be 1000 or under, so thats really why I settled on a 250FSB and a 4xHTT... Sums are not my big point, but 4x250 is easy, so thats whay thats there... I could just as happily throw the CPUV up to full blast, add the +10% CPU v and play at 300FSB all day, but thats nto going to make this HT = 1000 is it? I will have to go 3x for 900.

Seriously though mate, I dont really think it makes muchdifference at all.
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ah ok, well might try the higher fsb then :) also whats the deal with the CPU voltage??

I got 2 setting for voltage CPU VID voltage 1.475 current setting then theres options for 10% above vid etc?? any ideas just more options to give you more voltage?
 
Well, yes basically.

What you got, is the main Voltage setting right...

Well, On stock volts, I am ok up to 230FSB, after that, its not too clever in the stability dept.

Ok, so I up the volts, and see how far it goes, and then up the volts again blah blah...

I ended up at 298FSB at 1.55v

The option for that extra +5/+10% etc simply does just that... You got the main voltage, which is a fixed number, but that fixed number only goes to say 1v but 10% of 1v is 1.1v isnt it? Well, thats simply all it does... It has allowed me to hit 300FSB, but of course you also got to have the RAM to do that.

My RAM is good for 285-290FSB without over volting it, and being XMS4400 wil happily do well over 300 with some jolts in the volts ( Im a poet and I dont even... Erm? )
 
i have flashed to 1.AO and now my usb hi speed host controller has dissapeared one other guy in another forum had the same problem but no solution has anyone had the same problem and hopefully a solution
 
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