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The_One · 27 Sep 2019 at 11:45

Well he isnt going to ask the players then go against there choice is he

if it inspires other players then lets see

but he will be suspended soon anyway

Flaevius · 27 Sep 2019 at 13:40

We don't have a standout choice of captain. Xhaka no better nor worse than most of the other options and he starts nearly every game and would have been an obvious candidate.

Gooner Leroy · 27 Sep 2019 at 15:28

He's not fit to be playing for arsenal nevermind being captain. :mad:

rebel rebel · 27 Sep 2019 at 15:44

Problem is there's no one there that particularly stands out as captain material. I would have let Aubameyang and Lacazette share it.

robfosters · 27 Sep 2019 at 16:39

#notmycaptain

rebel rebel · 11 Oct 2019 at 14:14

The manager has been told we have to qualify for the Champions League this season or its adiós!

robfosters · 11 Oct 2019 at 14:30

rebel rebel said:
The manager has been told we have to qualify for the Champions League this season or its adiós!

Too bloody right. Spent big, Squads good, one of the best strikers in the league and the other contenders are struggling. If he can’t do it this year, he never will.

rebel rebel · 11 Oct 2019 at 14:40

robfosters said:
Too bloody right. Spent big, Squads good, one of the best strikers in the league and the other contenders are struggling. If he can’t do it this year, he never will.

Yep I agree. First year was a freebie, new league and language for him. Now he has to take the next step.

jonneymendoza · 11 Oct 2019 at 15:11

Just as i predicted. always give a manager 2 seasons

HangTime · 17 Oct 2019 at 00:35

rebel rebel said:
Problem is there's no one there that particularly stands out as captain material. I would have let Aubameyang and Lacazette share it.

A far cry from the "7 captains" or whatever it was we supposedly had a few years ago. There really isn't any good choice that I can see, Auba is experienced and guaranteed to play all the big games but he comes across as a bit too relaxed. Kolasinac seems a good candidate possibly, but probably won't be a regular starter. The likes of Holding, Tierney or Guendouzi could maybe do it in a couple of years if they establish themselves in the side. I'd maybe go Bellerin for now :/

jonneymendoza · 17 Oct 2019 at 07:29

HangTime said:
A far cry from the "7 captains" or whatever it was we supposedly had a few years ago. There really isn't any good choice that I can see, Auba is experienced and guaranteed to play all the big games but he comes across as a bit too relaxed. Kolasinac seems a good candidate possibly, but probably won't be a regular starter. The likes of Holding, Tierney or Guendouzi could maybe do it in a couple of years if they establish themselves in the side. I'd maybe go Bellerin for now :/

Safest bet would be our GK Leno??

neviditelny · 17 Oct 2019 at 09:52

This talk about captain is something I actually can't understand. The captain does after all have no actual special role on the field. You might have someone who is a leader but in the laws of football it states "The team captain has no special status or privileges but has a degree of responsibility for the behaviour of the team."
http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-3---the-players

You can have players that are brilliant leaders but wouldn't make a good captain if looking at it this way.

CliffyG · 17 Oct 2019 at 12:13

I think Holding will probably be captain further down the line but no stand outs at the moment.

opethdisciple · 17 Oct 2019 at 13:11

Don't like these rumours of Allegri to United. Would be a shame to miss out on him and then get rid of Emery at the end of the season.

Would be an epic fail timing wise.

Somnambulist · 2 Nov 2019 at 10:22

Somnambulist · 2 Nov 2019 at 12:52

BaZ87 · 3 Nov 2019 at 20:21

There's enough chat about Emery's position to warrant it's own thread. Keep all chat relating to Emery's job and potential successors in the thread below:

https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/unais-time-to-say-goodbye.18869239/

Josh · 3 Nov 2019 at 20:43

If only the board were that decisive.

Cheers Baz

HangTime · 5 Nov 2019 at 13:15

neviditelny said:
This talk about captain is something I actually can't understand. The captain does after all have no actual special role on the field. You might have someone who is a leader but in the laws of football it states "The team captain has no special status or privileges but has a degree of responsibility for the behaviour of the team."
http://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/lawsandrules/laws/football-11-11/law-3---the-players

You can have players that are brilliant leaders but wouldn't make a good captain if looking at it this way.

I think distilling it down to the laws of football oversimplifies things a bit, as it can have other influences regardless of whether they are recorded in the laws of the game. For example, captains typically:

Lead the team out
Participate in the coin toss(es)
Are allowed to talk to the ref (it was proposed a couple of years back that only captains can speak to the ref, not sure if this was put in the laws yet or not)
Can have a psychological impact on the team [and potentially even the opposition] by being a leader
Potentially get better responses from teammates when orchestrating actions on the field (compared to non-captains)
Potentially get a higher media profile which could bring benefits (e.g. more sponsorship) or disadvantages (e.g. bad press for misdemeanours)

neviditelny · 5 Nov 2019 at 18:32

HangTime said:
I think distilling it down to the laws of football oversimplifies things a bit, as it can have other influences regardless of whether they are recorded in the laws of the game. For example, captains typically:

Lead the team out

Participate in the coin toss(es)

Are allowed to talk to the ref (it was proposed a couple of years back that only captains can speak to the ref, not sure if this was put in the laws yet or not)

Can have a psychological impact on the team [and potentially even the opposition] by being a leader

Potentially get better responses from teammates when orchestrating actions on the field (compared to non-captains)

Potentially get a higher media profile which could bring benefits (e.g. more sponsorship) or disadvantages (e.g. bad press for misdemeanours)

But you can be a leader even without being the actual captain. You get different kinds of leaders that will lead in different ways, not all of them would have to be an actual captain. As being allowed to talk to the ref, a captain don't have more rights than any other player on the pitch at the moment either. When I was a ref it was used to say that the captains are supposed to be the ref's connection to the teams on the pitch.

The new Arsenal Club Thread - *No Spoilers & Read OP Before Posting*

The new Arsenal Club Thread - No Spoilers & Read OP Before Posting