The New European Super (borefest) League

Mint8 said:
I get that everyone is all upset and everything - but amidst all the outrage people need to take a breath. Kicking 3 of the 4 remaining teams out of the Champions League - really ??! talk about cutting you nose off to spite your face. Also - would the FA really stop players from those 6 clubs playing for England - that doesnt even leave us with a "B" team, let alone a credible national side to take on the likes of a full strength Germany or France.

Far better to let the "Super league" play itself to a standstill and also watch those clubs suffer in their respective leagues because the players are too knackered to play.
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You do know these players do play champions League football? Well most of them.
 
Mint8 said:
I get that everyone is all upset and everything - but amidst all the outrage people need to take a breath. Kicking 3 of the 4 remaining teams out of the Champions League - really ??! talk about cutting you nose off to spite your face. Also - would the FA really stop players from those 6 clubs playing for England - that doesnt even leave us with a "B" team, let alone a credible national side to take on the likes of a full strength Germany or France.

Far better to let the "Super league" play itself to a standstill and also watch those clubs suffer in their respective leagues because the players are too knackered to play.
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You don't understand. The Super League will be the top league. The Premier League will become the equivalent of the league cup where the top teams will field kids and fringe players. Also it will be no different for the other domestic teams. The Brazilian National team will have Joelinton heading up attack.
 
I wonder what will happen to next years CL, can't imagine UEFA or the EPL allowing teams in if they plan to leave the following year. Could make the big six not so big quite quickly.
 
adam cool dude said:
You don't understand. The Super League will be the top league. The Premier League will become the equivalent of the league cup where the top teams will field kids and fringe players.
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Well it'll make the Premier League more competitive and less predictable at least. TBH I'd rather see English football just let the big mega corporation clubs go than have that happen (kick them out), then maybe hand the Premier League teams back to the Football League if the FA feel so strongly about breakaway clubs forming new leagues.

IMO the tidiest solution is basically to let the mega clubs have their MLS but cut all ties and let the domestic and UEFA competitions continue as normal with what remains, move some teams up through the pyramid. You could maybe change the FA Cup to include the breakaway English teams for a bit of novelty.
 
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If this doesn’t happen and things have to continue as they are, what do you think the reactions of the owners will be when they realise they’re not going to get their own way?
 
You know how the gov is saying a fan review and all this inquiry etc? Anyone remember Peter Kenyon(?) and the Man U board trying to get the gov to help them block the hostile takeover saying it wasn't in the club or the fans' interest, and the government did what they always do and rolled over and let it go? Just like with Cadbury, Corus Steel, ARM, etc etc? Complete hypocrisy to now whinge at the outworking of not stopping the rot when they had the chance before.
 
ollies said:
Well the answer is that it works in the US and key people involved in this are American.

Keep seeing "not being in the league through merit" said, but are we forgetting that these clubs have been chosen because they're the richest clubs in the world - how did they reach that point? Through being successful and/or well run clubs (that success could've been "bought" through wealthy owners sure, but that's been football for the past 20 years now) so is that not just another measurement of merit?

The richest clubs already get bigger and richer every year through existing models and competition. They already have more resources to attract players and essentially cherry pick from the smaller clubs.

It's not to compete with domestic football, it's to rival UEFA who nobody is happy with in the first place. Full of corruption and speaks volumes the fact PSG haven't signed up to it, essentially proving their ties to UEFA.

Does it devalue domestic leagues and cups? Perhaps, but I think a lot of people would be happy to see the League Cup disappear and teams already field weaker sides in Premiership or FA cup games either side of a Champions League game.

Then the various associations and media complaining of this being about greed and money, are we forgetting these very associations and broadcasters tried charging us £15 to watch Burnley vs Fulham? Same people who charge large numbers of households upwards of £80 a month to watch a few games a week (they don't allow us access to watch all games...). Associations who grant hosting of finals to countries with no football history/background or even infrastructure in place to support it simply due to money.

When the Premier League was formed people didn't like it. When the European Cup became the Champions League people didn't like it. When there's been format changes to any of these competitions, people didn't like it, but look at them now. Premier League is the biggest domestic league in the world. Champions League is the biggest football competition in the world.
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Your argument effectively boils down to wealth being a better measure of footballing merit than successfully playing football.
 
Robbo said:
Klopp being very diplomatic, as I knew he would be. He can’t say anything else.
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I think he stopped himself going over the edge but he made it clear he doesn't like the plans and he also made it clear that the team and fans are separate from the decision that's been made.
 
BaZ87 said:
I think he stopped himself going over the edge but he made it clear he doesn't like the plans and he also made it clear that the team and fans are separate from the decision that's been made.
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Looks like he was about to break down:/
 
Steve Parish on Sky moralising, the man that said PL clubs shouldn't have to bail out the EFL and it was like asking supermarkets to bail out corner shops.
 
I wish everyone would stop having a pop at us about being in it. If they were smart enough to look at the uefa rankings, they’d see why we’re in it.

Not that I want us in it anyway.
 
Sounds like league ran by nvidia, I'll be done with football if this goes through, even my team Newcastle will be bombed off, the Mrs isn't happy being a scouser as all my TV subs for football will be cancelled.
What a greedy world we live in roll on human extermination :D
 
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