Soldato
Apple....overpriced
The "New Gear/Willy Waving" thread
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Soldato
True, there are, but I did say specifically the Macbook, rather than the Mini. The laptop experience is quite special. To show that I'm not completely brainwashed though, I will critisise them though for the poor response time of their display panels. Quite surprising tbh.
Agreed! Don't get me started on their pricing structure.
Soldato
Ahh ok.True, there are, but I did say specifically the Macbook, rather than the Mini. The laptop experience is quite special. To show that I'm not completely brainwashed though, I will critisise them though for the poor response time of their display panels. Quite surprising tbh.
Agreed! Don't get me started on their pricing structure.
Yea the laptops are great tbh and may get one
Caporegime
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I've spent a bit more time looking at what Sony offer and.... it's very appealing, especially the lens selection.
But I have 9 EF lenses, 5 of them being L. It's a big thing to switch systems, big for multiple reasons. Whilst the EF mount is dead, it doesn't stop the lenses being still great. I don't like what Canon are doing with not allowing 3rd parties on the RF mount, but I do think in a couple more years that will change. From what I've seen the EF to RF adapter works extremely well.
So, I've gone ahead and ordered a Canon R5 from Pana moz. I was going to go with E-infin to further save some more money, but the extra 2 years warranty from Pana moz is too attractive. I think is worth the increased cost.
Ordered it yesterday and it looks like it's about to be shipped, as I've got notification of the tracking #.
It might not the best of time to pick up an R5 at this stage in its life cycle. I didn't want to hold on to my 5DMKIV for too much longer, as value is dropping. I've decided to keep my 5DMKIII, it has a lot of sentimental value, that aside, I also can't believe how little they are fetching for now.
Looking to take this as a time to do a refresh on camera bag, tripod.. obviously will need new memory cards.. and I do absolutely hate how much Canon mark up the price of their batteries!
But I have 9 EF lenses, 5 of them being L. It's a big thing to switch systems, big for multiple reasons. Whilst the EF mount is dead, it doesn't stop the lenses being still great. I don't like what Canon are doing with not allowing 3rd parties on the RF mount, but I do think in a couple more years that will change. From what I've seen the EF to RF adapter works extremely well.
So, I've gone ahead and ordered a Canon R5 from Pana moz. I was going to go with E-infin to further save some more money, but the extra 2 years warranty from Pana moz is too attractive. I think is worth the increased cost.
Ordered it yesterday and it looks like it's about to be shipped, as I've got notification of the tracking #.
It might not the best of time to pick up an R5 at this stage in its life cycle. I didn't want to hold on to my 5DMKIV for too much longer, as value is dropping. I've decided to keep my 5DMKIII, it has a lot of sentimental value, that aside, I also can't believe how little they are fetching for now.
Looking to take this as a time to do a refresh on camera bag, tripod.. obviously will need new memory cards.. and I do absolutely hate how much Canon mark up the price of their batteries!
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Caporegime
As you know @2StepSteve i switched from Canon to Sony, and like you, i had lots of L lenses, I think it was about 7 in total, 8 if you count the 45TSE (it comes with a hood and pouch that are in L lenses. This was like 5 years ago though, before the R5 was released and back then, Canon lens selection was lacking and they still yet make a 35mm/1.4 in RF mount, my favourite focal length.
I want to say that, whilst adapting can work and is great, as their value is dropping, if you do plan to swap any lenses over to RF, do it sooner rather than later.
As for Sony glass, they are great, but very clinical.....I've turned into that old man where i now prefer a little flaw in my lens design, a bit of flare, a bit of pleasing softness. I miss the look of the Canon 85/1.2mk2...or the 35Lmk2. I don't miss the Canon 24Lmk2 though.
So I guess if you are not using it for work, and doesn't need the latest AF motor inside modern lenses then EF lenses are fine. With the exception that the adaptor makes the set up a bit long.
Most of all, I miss Canon's colour science, but at least i know the Sony A7R5 has finally caught up, from what i've seen.
I want to say that, whilst adapting can work and is great, as their value is dropping, if you do plan to swap any lenses over to RF, do it sooner rather than later.
As for Sony glass, they are great, but very clinical.....I've turned into that old man where i now prefer a little flaw in my lens design, a bit of flare, a bit of pleasing softness. I miss the look of the Canon 85/1.2mk2...or the 35Lmk2. I don't miss the Canon 24Lmk2 though.
So I guess if you are not using it for work, and doesn't need the latest AF motor inside modern lenses then EF lenses are fine. With the exception that the adaptor makes the set up a bit long.
Most of all, I miss Canon's colour science, but at least i know the Sony A7R5 has finally caught up, from what i've seen.
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Soldato
Thanks for your insight @Raymond Lin
I have been torn for a few years on what to do with Canon. When the dynamic range / sensor wars were going on, Canon were so far behind. I'm guessing this was one of the things that made you jump ship at the time? There were times where I thought about switching, especially during this specific time. It's very strange they haven't released a RF 35mm 1.4 yet, it's pretty much the staple.
Sony have done some great things and their (and the 3rd party) lens selection really shines now, it's what makes them so tempting to me and I guess a lot of others, great performing sensors and a great lens library to back it up.
I don't shoot professionally, so don't need to worry about the fastest of AF lens performance. I know what you mean about selling EF and not waiting too long. I'm a little concerned I'm going to end up boxing myself into a corner by holding on to EF lenses. RF lenses are just so expensive. It's a painful thought of perhaps having to sell 2 or more EF L lenses and still not have enough money to buy 1 RF lens. Not sure how I am going to get on with the adapter, the size increase I did weigh up, but hopefully it won't be too much of an issue. I do feel a lot better by not paying UK retail and saving £1500 though
There's so much to weigh up and some element of gambling that Canon will open up the mount to third parties. I guess, once it arrives.. If it all goes to hell, doesn't look right, feel right or I change my mind. I could always return under the 14 day return period.
There is something about Canon's colours, the colour sciense is very pleasing. I picked up a Panasonic MFT camera a few years back and I very rarely use it, it produces some awful colours which are an absolute pain to edit.
I have been torn for a few years on what to do with Canon. When the dynamic range / sensor wars were going on, Canon were so far behind. I'm guessing this was one of the things that made you jump ship at the time? There were times where I thought about switching, especially during this specific time. It's very strange they haven't released a RF 35mm 1.4 yet, it's pretty much the staple.
Sony have done some great things and their (and the 3rd party) lens selection really shines now, it's what makes them so tempting to me and I guess a lot of others, great performing sensors and a great lens library to back it up.
I don't shoot professionally, so don't need to worry about the fastest of AF lens performance. I know what you mean about selling EF and not waiting too long. I'm a little concerned I'm going to end up boxing myself into a corner by holding on to EF lenses. RF lenses are just so expensive. It's a painful thought of perhaps having to sell 2 or more EF L lenses and still not have enough money to buy 1 RF lens. Not sure how I am going to get on with the adapter, the size increase I did weigh up, but hopefully it won't be too much of an issue. I do feel a lot better by not paying UK retail and saving £1500 though
There's so much to weigh up and some element of gambling that Canon will open up the mount to third parties. I guess, once it arrives.. If it all goes to hell, doesn't look right, feel right or I change my mind. I could always return under the 14 day return period.
There is something about Canon's colours, the colour sciense is very pleasing. I picked up a Panasonic MFT camera a few years back and I very rarely use it, it produces some awful colours which are an absolute pain to edit.
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Caporegime
Thanks for your insight @Raymond Lin
I have been torn for a few years on what to do with Canon. When the dynamic range / sensor wars were going on, Canon were so far behind. I'm guessing this was one of the things that made you jump ship at the time? There were times where I thought about switching, especially during this specific time. It's very strange they haven't released a RF 35mm 1.4 yet, it's pretty much the staple.
Sony have done some great things and their (and the 3rd party) lens selection really shines now, it's what makes them so tempting to me and I guess a lot of others, great performing sensors and a great lens library to back it up.
I don't shoot professionally, so don't need to worry about the fastest of AF lens performance. I know what you mean about selling EF and not waiting too long. I'm a little concerned I'm going to end up boxing myself into a corner by holding on to EF lenses. RF lenses are just so expensive. It's a painful thought of perhaps having to sell 2 or more EF L lenses and still not have enough money to buy 1 RF lens. Not sure how I am going to get on with the adapter, the size increase I did weigh up, but hopefully it won't be too much of an issue. I do feel a lot better by not paying UK retail and saving £1500 though
There's so much to weigh up and some element of gambling that Canon will open up the mount to third parties. I guess, once it arrives.. If it all goes to hell, doesn't look right, feel right or I change my mind. I could always return under the 14 day return period.
There is something about Canon's colours, the colour sciense is very pleasing. I picked up a Panasonic MFT camera a few years back and I very rarely use it, it produces some awful colours which are an absolute pain to edit.
The lens prices is one aspect that will keep me at Sony, it is anywhere from 20% (like a 50/1.2 at RRP between them) to like 100% (like 28-70/2.8 between RF to Sigma Art oni E-mount) cheaper than Canon's. When I sold my 5D4, I think i got £1500 thereabouts for each one of them, and the A73 at launch was £2,000 so the swap was relatively painless body wise. A 5D3 now sell for like £500, I suspect if you take it to a store, they might offer you £350 for it. I've seen 5D4 as low as £1k now, so probably will get £600-800 from MPB/Wex.
So right now I have the following setup.
A73 for work (x2)
A7R3 for travel (and as a backup)
Zooms
Tamron 17-35/2.8
Sigma 24-70/2.8 DG DN
Sony 70-200/2.8 GM
Primes
Sony 24GM (Seen this as low as £750 used on LCE)
Sony 35GM
Canon 45/2.8 TSE, attached to a Sigma MC-11 pretty much constantly.
Zeiss 50/1.4 Planar (This is about £750 used)
Sony 85/1.4GM (seen this for £800 used on LCE this week)
Sony 90/2.8 Macro G
Sigma 105/1.4 Art (E-mount)
The only adapted is the TSE lens which is a manual lens anyway. Used Sony lenses are very good value, and because most of them are modern designs, they are all really good...with few exceptions like the Sony 24-70GM mk1, this one is worst than Canon EF mount, its similar design to the old Canon, not made as well. The 24-70 GMmk2 is much better but IMO, the Canon EF 24-70L mk2 is still superior....Sony fanboys will hate me for saying that though, hence i got the Sigma Art. It's as good as the 28-70 GMmk2 IMO for like half the money. You can probably tell if you pixel peep for macro details but I am way past that these days.
Another thing that may or may not bother you. Canon put IBIS into their lenses as well as their bodies. It is why some of the RF lenses are so big, it also explains why it is so expensive. Sony doesn't, at lease for their shorter focal lengths, but Canon does. So a Sony set up can be much smaller, a 35GM is very small and you wonder where all your money has gone when you get it, compared to the 35L mk2. It's smaller than the 35L mk1.
One thing I will miss is the PASM of Canon, I still don't really like the dials at the top for Sony. It's not a fast way to change settings, it requires 2 hands. I can change everything i needed to with 1 hand with a 5D series. From focus points to aperture to ISO (putting the camera in Av). The Sony, I can't do that. I can't have the dials to move focus points up and down (you can only choose 1 way), and the front dial can't move the focus point, so have to use the stick. You would need the left hand to change aperture. 2 hand operation. (I have thought about this, if and when Fuji X-H2 gets cheap on the used market, I'll get one as it is a PASM setup, I still have 3 Fuji glass and 2 old bodies for fun, amazingly, their used value has gone up thanks to Tiktokers)
Sony won't change this way of working though, I don't mind it in Fuji as it's not my work set up but Canon has a better UI personally speaking.
Disclaimer, the above are just my personal opinion, if money is no object and if Canon makes a 35/1.4 RF, I may switch back, but I think we are at the point now where all the top bodies are much of muchness. The photos that I take won't be better because i shoot Canon or Sony, or even Fuji for that matter.
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Soldato
Sony started the full frame mirrorless trend and it's great to see how far they have come in the last 10 years.
I was a early adaptor and my first ever e mount lens was the 55mm f1.8 and I still use it to this day!
Interesting reading through the last few pages 
I've been looking at upgrading my Sony A7 iii, was researching the A7 R5 and the A7 4 but notice Sony are teasing some new cameras coming this summer so might wait to see what those are.
Ideally I want the features of the Sony A7 R5 but in a cheaper A7 body, with about 33MP.
I've also ordered a Sony 200-600mm lens. I hired one last year for about a week to shoot my sons football Cup final, some karting and an airshow. For the price I don't think it can currently be beaten.
I've been looking at upgrading my Sony A7 iii, was researching the A7 R5 and the A7 4 but notice Sony are teasing some new cameras coming this summer so might wait to see what those are.
Ideally I want the features of the Sony A7 R5 but in a cheaper A7 body, with about 33MP.
I've also ordered a Sony 200-600mm lens. I hired one last year for about a week to shoot my sons football Cup final, some karting and an airshow. For the price I don't think it can currently be beaten.
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Caporegime
There is “bottom” to lens prices though, especially for the more exotic lenses, like the really fast L like the 50/1.0.
A 50L 1.2 still cost like £700 used, similarly same for the 85L. I’m not sure they are at the bottom yet but consider that a Nikon 35/1.4 AIS F mount from the 80’s still sell for £400-£500, they would never go to zero. I just bought that 50/1.4 AIS from Japan for £180.
The bodies however, they drop a LOT more, a 5D2 for £250 anyone? That’s like a 90% lost.
But if you already have one of these bodies that has lost 80+% of its value, I’d be tempted to keep it.
A 50L 1.2 still cost like £700 used, similarly same for the 85L. I’m not sure they are at the bottom yet but consider that a Nikon 35/1.4 AIS F mount from the 80’s still sell for £400-£500, they would never go to zero. I just bought that 50/1.4 AIS from Japan for £180.
The bodies however, they drop a LOT more, a 5D2 for £250 anyone? That’s like a 90% lost.
But if you already have one of these bodies that has lost 80+% of its value, I’d be tempted to keep it.
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Soldato
That's one of the reasons why I'm keeping my 5DMKiii, it's lost so much value that there's more value in hanging on to it
I've been scouting around for my my first carbon fibre travel tripod. All my other tripids have been aluminum based (Red Snapper, Velbon). Started looking at the cheaper ones on Amazon, there's a few around but wanted to see what else is out there that is a step up from the absolute budget stuff, as there are inevitably corners cut. Plus having some kind of warranty if it falls apart within a few years would be nice.
Due to my height, I've always had to stoop down when using my other tripods, so thought it would be nice for a change not to do that. Kept seeing good things about the UK company 3 Legged Thing and specifically the model Brian 2.0. Took a look at it, not sure what they are thinking with those colour choices, blue and orange?! They have a dark out version which has been out of stock for the past few weeks, noticed whilst at work yesterday it came back in stock.
Arrived this morning:
Not sure about the box artwork, but hey, tripods are pretty boring by nature, so anything to inject a bit of life into them
Build quality is really fantastic. Leaps above anything else I've used in the past. Weight is 1.68KG with the head and folds down to 42CM. Comes with a nice bag, also.
The ball head is the AirHed Neo 2.0 and supports up to 18kg, very smooth and again high quality machined components. After I placed the order, I reliased they also sell a 'Pro' head, which is about 1cm taller, is the same weight but supports up to 40kg. Way beyond what I'll be needing and even beyond what the tripod can support. But for an £40 thought it might be worth upgrading to in the name of greater stablity. Gave the company a call after ordering and they were really good, said if I don't get on well with this head that something can be arranged to upgrade.
5 year warranty, which is decent.
I'll give it a test spin over the weekend with my 5DMKiii and Sigma 150-600mm. On the face of it, it looks like it's going to be a great travel companion.
I've been scouting around for my my first carbon fibre travel tripod. All my other tripids have been aluminum based (Red Snapper, Velbon). Started looking at the cheaper ones on Amazon, there's a few around but wanted to see what else is out there that is a step up from the absolute budget stuff, as there are inevitably corners cut. Plus having some kind of warranty if it falls apart within a few years would be nice.
Due to my height, I've always had to stoop down when using my other tripods, so thought it would be nice for a change not to do that. Kept seeing good things about the UK company 3 Legged Thing and specifically the model Brian 2.0. Took a look at it, not sure what they are thinking with those colour choices, blue and orange?! They have a dark out version which has been out of stock for the past few weeks, noticed whilst at work yesterday it came back in stock.
Arrived this morning:
Not sure about the box artwork, but hey, tripods are pretty boring by nature, so anything to inject a bit of life into them
Build quality is really fantastic. Leaps above anything else I've used in the past. Weight is 1.68KG with the head and folds down to 42CM. Comes with a nice bag, also.
The ball head is the AirHed Neo 2.0 and supports up to 18kg, very smooth and again high quality machined components. After I placed the order, I reliased they also sell a 'Pro' head, which is about 1cm taller, is the same weight but supports up to 40kg. Way beyond what I'll be needing and even beyond what the tripod can support. But for an £40 thought it might be worth upgrading to in the name of greater stablity. Gave the company a call after ordering and they were really good, said if I don't get on well with this head that something can be arranged to upgrade.
5 year warranty, which is decent.
I'll give it a test spin over the weekend with my 5DMKiii and Sigma 150-600mm. On the face of it, it looks like it's going to be a great travel companion.
Caporegime
That looks good. Folds down to the same size as my Gitzo GT1545T but extends 20cm taller than mine too.
Soldato
It is about half the cost of that tripod (why are tripods so expensive!?). I don't expect it to match the Gitzo. But it does seem to be quite decent. Will report back in a few days.
Caporegime
Half the price without the head lol it’s like £600 with the head. I think i had a moment of madness.
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Got another old camera lol
Arrived!!! the condition is unbelievable
Arrived!!! the condition is unbelievable
Soldato
Amazing condition!
Soldato
The R5 has arrived from Hong Kong.
I'm quite surprised how much smaller it is compared to the 5D4, feels good and not too small, familiar. Great Japanese build quality and QC.
I've not been able to take it out for a shoot yet due to work, but I'm pretty amazed by what I see so far. Going from the 5D3 to 5D4 was quite an improvement, but this is on another level. AF is just insane, no way else to describe it. It sticks to eyes and will find them even at 35mm and at a distance. This and the low light level AF lock ablity; it does feel like magic coming from the 5D4. I can see why this is still a highly regarded body amongst the competition of newer bodies.
Noise looks good out the camera on test shots, definitely cleaner than the 5D4 and the bump to 45MP is very nice. Viewfinder is excellent, flip out screen is also excellent and much needed. Generally, no complaints at this stage.
Battery life.... I've taken 90 test shots, 5 mins of 4K video and playing around with the menus for an hour or so to set it up how I like - and battery is at 70%. I'm going to need at the very least another battery. Good thing it can be charged over USB-C PD. I can tell it's not a very power efficient chipset by the how warm the SD card becomes after powering on and just taking a few shots.
One thing I only just realised.. it has no inbuilt GPS! What?! But I will survive!
Hopefully in the next few days I'll get out and take some shots, looking forward to seeing colours out the camera.
I'm quite surprised how much smaller it is compared to the 5D4, feels good and not too small, familiar. Great Japanese build quality and QC.
I've not been able to take it out for a shoot yet due to work, but I'm pretty amazed by what I see so far. Going from the 5D3 to 5D4 was quite an improvement, but this is on another level. AF is just insane, no way else to describe it. It sticks to eyes and will find them even at 35mm and at a distance. This and the low light level AF lock ablity; it does feel like magic coming from the 5D4. I can see why this is still a highly regarded body amongst the competition of newer bodies.
Noise looks good out the camera on test shots, definitely cleaner than the 5D4 and the bump to 45MP is very nice. Viewfinder is excellent, flip out screen is also excellent and much needed. Generally, no complaints at this stage.
Battery life.... I've taken 90 test shots, 5 mins of 4K video and playing around with the menus for an hour or so to set it up how I like - and battery is at 70%. I'm going to need at the very least another battery. Good thing it can be charged over USB-C PD. I can tell it's not a very power efficient chipset by the how warm the SD card becomes after powering on and just taking a few shots.
One thing I only just realised.. it has no inbuilt GPS! What?! But I will survive!
Hopefully in the next few days I'll get out and take some shots, looking forward to seeing colours out the camera.
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Doesn't it BT to a phone to get location data?
Soldato
It can do, but it's just another thing to remember to turn on. Plus another potential drain on the battery.
There's a hotshoe mount GPS unit, the idea of which is a bit nuts really, as is the price.
It's not a crucial feature but kinda weird they took it away. Will give the phone app a try and see how well it works with auto pairing and battery life.
There's a hotshoe mount GPS unit, the idea of which is a bit nuts really, as is the price.
It's not a crucial feature but kinda weird they took it away. Will give the phone app a try and see how well it works with auto pairing and battery life.