The Oblivion 360 Thread

~J~ said:
I 'think' I may have found the answer to these Xbox360 screenshot 'worries'.

I have noticed however that you can get the same 'post-processed' images depending on the time of day in the game.

Spot on mate...depending on the time of day, the graphics can look especially ropey...subversely, they can be stunning.

i think they haven't had enough time to adjust the day/night engine in approximation to the normal graphics engine. Hence the stunning / not so stunning graphics
 
So there is grass somewhere :eek:
I was disapointed with Oblivion graphics on the PC (which look like the screenshots on that link) as I'm used to so much better with 2 year old games like Farcry etc. Cant wait get Farcry3 soon on my 360, its a shame they are really slow with good games like that on the PC :( as PC games are cheaper.
 
Still havnt had time to play it yet, got to choosing my character then walked about in the dungeon for all of 3 seconds then got sidetracked by the missus.... Probably get a good go tonight, Im just hoping the framerate is ok for me, at least what I saw of it was fast enough movement wise unlike GRAW :) .. looks like the PC version is suffering from framerate issues even with the latest rigs it can drop to 5fps, so maybe I made the right choice after all.. :)
 
Reektan said:
Would be nice to see those at the true resolution.

I'm taking thats on PC as you've got screengrabs.. what's the framerate at with the visuals looking like that outside?

Outside, I usually get anything between 30 and 75 FPS.

I do have those screenshots in their original resolution, I'll upload them later.
 
turtle3 said:
looks like the PC version is suffering from framerate issues even with the latest rigs it can drop to 5fps, so maybe I made the right choice after all.. :)

Well mines on the 360 suffers framerate issues and i would guess at times it goes down by at least 5fps too, so i think its eachy peachy tbh
 
JUMPURS said:
Well mines on the 360 suffers framerate issues and i would guess at times it goes down by at least 5fps too, so i think its eachy peachy tbh
Have to agree with this - at some times it really is like playing a PC game with quite bad framerate issues. Having said that, it's still a cracking game. :)
 
im finding that the XBox 360 cant seem to stream in the level graphics from the DVD quick enough and the game stutters like crazy sometimes, especially when travelling on a horse :/

superb game though.
 
juno_first said:
So there is grass somewhere :eek:
I was disapointed with Oblivion graphics on the PC (which look like the screenshots on that link) as I'm used to so much better with 2 year old games like Farcry etc. Cant wait get Farcry3 soon on my 360, its a shame they are really slow with good games like that on the PC :( as PC games are cheaper.

Cant really see where you are coming from there. I've played Far Cry and whilst the graphics are nice, the colour palette is way to rich for my liking. Oblivion is the nicest overall looking game I have played by some distance. A game that is worth upgrading for.

When you consider the relative complexities of what the two engines are doing, Far Cry a simple shooter, Oblivion a full on RPG with spells, weapons, stats, NPCs and so on, it's clear which is the major achievement I think. Given the whole package, it's incredible how good Oblivion looks when you think about how much is going on behind the graphics all the time.
 
JUMPURS said:
Well mines on the 360 suffers framerate issues and i would guess at times it goes down by at least 5fps too, so i think its eachy peachy tbh

Sure it's framerate issues and not to do with loading of the data?

I can honestly say I've had zero framerate issues. Sometimes it'll move slow as it's loading a new area, but a quick reset and recache of the harddrive makes it all fluid again.
 
~J~ said:
Sure it's framerate issues and not to do with loading of the data?

I can honestly say I've had zero framerate issues. Sometimes it'll move slow as it's loading a new area, but a quick reset and recache of the harddrive makes it all fluid again.

Nup its defo frame rates, sure it comes up 'loading new area' all the time too.
And i dont really fancy resetting my machine all the time, thought consoles where ment to make it easy.
 
JUMPURS said:
Nup its defo frame rates, sure it comes up 'loading new area' all the time too.
And i dont really fancy resetting my machine all the time, thought consoles where ment to make it easy.

IM with you on the very low framerates in various areas.. its a shame but im dealing with it and focusing on the gameplay instead. One day a game like this will run silky smooth.
 
Khrest said:
When you consider the relative complexities of what the two engines are doing, Far Cry a simple shooter, Oblivion a full on RPG with spells, weapons, stats, NPCs and so on, it's clear which is the major achievement I think. Given the whole package, it's incredible how good Oblivion looks when you think about how much is going on behind the graphics all the time.

Far Cry will have just as much, if not more going on at once as an RPG. Oblivion is only different due to the NPCs acting out throughout the world, this is a major step, but it doesn't make Far Cry any less impressive ;) For example, you hit someone in an RPG its just a roll of the dice to detect the hit - in an FPS you need collision detection (relatively slow & complicated), and in the case of more modern FPS games, multiple collision detections (aka hit-zones) for each and every bullet.

The stats behind an RPG actually make it simpler for a computer to play the game out than an FPS. Oblivion is good, don't get me wrong. But the NPCs doing their own thing out of the level will be done with a mixture of dice rolls (like any sandbox game). Check out the X (space sim) series :)

Anyway, I'm finding Oblivion rather boring tbh. Its a case of wandering around occasionally bumping into some bandits / highway man, and hammering the right trigger while occasionally holding the left trigger. The combat has seriously disappointed me, when you have games like Fable and Jade Empire with smooth combat with plenty of moves and then you play Oblivion which brings a whole new meaning to hack & slash. Also loading when entering a tiny house - whats that about!?!

Clearing the cache too is rather stupid, definitely a hack fix that shouldn't have made it to retail. Worse still are the level load times which get longer and longer and longer until you shut the game down, hold A to clear the cache, and then resume. Its a CONSOLE, these things shouldn't happen.

Either way if the combat was actually any good I would probably love this game. But as it stands it makes a hack 'n' slash seem like an evolved form of game-based combat.
 
So whats the verdict overall then?

I was gonna buy a 360 for this and GRaW, but low framerates would really do my head in... Does anyone know if they will patch the game? Or is the framerate not such a big issue?
 
mburn_83 said:
So whats the verdict overall then?

I was gonna buy a 360 for this and GRaW, but low framerates would really do my head in... Does anyone know if they will patch the game? Or is the framerate not such a big issue?


Iv been playing this to death last few days and i really do not notice any major framerate issues.
 
A n d y said:
Iv been playing this to death last few days and i really do not notice any major framerate issues.
Likewise. I've had this a couple of days, and have been playing non stop here for 8hrs since I woke up - no frame rate issues, but the odd bit of stutter as a new area loaded up. As a former pc gamer, that alone will take some getting used to for me, but the stutter is about a second or so, so its not bad.
 
davewhite04 said:
Well trade in Oblivion for Far Cry and away you go!

I have Far Cry for the PC ;)

But ye I'll prolly trade it in for Far Cry this Friday. I hope the console version is as good as the PC version (which rocked). If I wanted to wander around for hours in a massive sandbox I would play an MMO so there are people to talk to ;)
 
Boogle said:
I have Far Cry for the PC ;)

But ye I'll prolly trade it in for Far Cry this Friday. I hope the console version is as good as the PC version (which rocked). If I wanted to wander around for hours in a massive sandbox I would play an MMO so there are people to talk to ;)

It's funny how much peoples tastes vary. I found Far Cry incredibly dull and boring. In fact I don't think I have enjoyed any recent FPS's with the exception of Half Life 2. Oblivion on the other hand has completely blown me away. I have no hesitation it naming it my favourite game of all time. :)

One mans meat is another mans poison and all that... :p
 
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