The OcUK Relationship Counselling and Hugs Thread

I can't do this - I miss her to much. But she'll have nothing to do with me, deleted me from everywhere.

She was the one that cheated on me aswell. :(

Well if she cheated on you then it's kinda expected dude. Forget her. Nothing worse than losing your dignity chasing someone about.
 
What use is there for him keep in contact though? She was the one who cheated so I don't understand why he would want to keep in contact anyway.

It is a little bit about use. My ex and I cheated on each other but no matter how bad it ended we had good times. We still talk to each other because of the times we shared together. Memories I don't have with anyone else. Her ma died, she talked to me about it (not sure how much it helped). My grandfather died and I talked to her about it. That's down to the emotional intimacy we had. *shrug*

That's just my situation and I'm trying to apply it to all I suppose. The glove doesn't always fit.
 
Okay, well first post in here but I'm having a bit of a struggle with something at the moment and I'd appreciate some outside perspective on it.

This evening my ex threw me a curveball. Strangely enough I posted about her the other day in another thread saying this:

My ex girlfriend who was due to be my wife, but is now my friend is amazing because she is there to talk to, literally any time of day or night she will answer the phone. She visits with cakes and cookies and if she's been shopping will swing by my house on the way home with a new top or something she's bought for me.

And the cheeky mare had the liberty to give my bum a squeeze last time I bumped into her in the supermarket.

I love her to pieces, and she me. We just cannot be together so we remain the best of friends

This has been the case for quite a while now, although recently she's been getting in touch more. Texting virtually every day, asking to come over and just being generally more chatty. I didn't think anything of it until tonight when she phoned me. She was crying, and all she mananged was 'please read it' and then she hung up. Tried calling back but it just rang out to voicemail.

Check texts on both phones, nothing. Checked emails and there was an email from her.

The reason we split, and promised to be friends was because of my circumstances and the inevitable emotional ups and downs that would bring for me and her. Couples where someone goes through with what I am doing, 97% split up at some point during the transition process.

Her email was quite genuinely dripping with emotion, she wears her heart on her sleeve at the best of times and it upset me to read, because I know how much she's in turmoil and it's hurting her.

The premise is a simple one, she wants to give it another try. She says she's willing to risk being one of the casualties of the 97% because there's the slightest glimmer of hope of being one of the 3%.

Now, if things were only that simple, I'd be jumping at the chance. I don't doubt that I love her, nor her me. We have a very very strong emotional and personal bond and we've always made it clear that we miss each other dearly.

The logic that is running through my head is, she obviously knows what is happening to me, and what I will be when it's all done. She feels she is strong enough, we're strong enough, to pull through it together. But give the slim survival rates, it would absolutely devastate me to see things fail and her be shattered by not quite realising the magnitude of what she's getting into. Can I risk dragging her through the mill just to have a fruitless, empty shell of a relationship at the end of it?

There's also the question of sexuality, and where my transition leaves me at the end of it. Although it's not really the most important part of it all, it's something to be factored in. She states as part of the email that she must be able to trust me, which reading between the lines and in context is basically saying no sex with a man. I never wanted to, until recently and the 'what is it going to be like' question has been growing ever stronger in my head.

I dunno, I'm really really torn here. She's a fantastic girl and half of me is thinking we have the right stuff to be able to carry it through. The other half simply doesn't want to hurt her.

Whaddya think?
 
Okay, well first post in here but I'm having a bit of a struggle with something at the moment and I'd appreciate some outside perspective on it.

This evening my ex threw me a curveball. Strangely enough I posted about her the other day in another thread saying this:



This has been the case for quite a while now, although recently she's been getting in touch more. Texting virtually every day, asking to come over and just being generally more chatty. I didn't think anything of it until tonight when she phoned me. She was crying, and all she mananged was 'please read it' and then she hung up. Tried calling back but it just rang out to voicemail.

Check texts on both phones, nothing. Checked emails and there was an email from her.

The reason we split, and promised to be friends was because of my circumstances and the inevitable emotional ups and downs that would bring for me and her. Couples where someone goes through with what I am doing, 97% split up at some point during the transition process.

Her email was quite genuinely dripping with emotion, she wears her heart on her sleeve at the best of times and it upset me to read, because I know how much she's in turmoil and it's hurting her.

The premise is a simple one, she wants to give it another try. She says she's willing to risk being one of the casualties of the 97% because there's the slightest glimmer of hope of being one of the 3%.

Now, if things were only that simple, I'd be jumping at the chance. I don't doubt that I love her, nor her me. We have a very very strong emotional and personal bond and we've always made it clear that we miss each other dearly.

The logic that is running through my head is, she obviously knows what is happening to me, and what I will be when it's all done. She feels she is strong enough, we're strong enough, to pull through it together. But give the slim survival rates, it would absolutely devastate me to see things fail and her be shattered by not quite realising the magnitude of what she's getting into. Can I risk dragging her through the mill just to have a fruitless, empty shell of a relationship at the end of it?

There's also the question of sexuality, and where my transition leaves me at the end of it. Although it's not really the most important part of it all, it's something to be factored in. She states as part of the email that she must be able to trust me, which reading between the lines and in context is basically saying no sex with a man. I never wanted to, until recently and the 'what is it going to be like' question has been growing ever stronger in my head.

I dunno, I'm really really torn here. She's a fantastic girl and half of me is thinking we have the right stuff to be able to carry it through. The other half simply doesn't want to hurt her.

Whaddya think?

Wow..wow...wait. You're a guy?!!
 
Wow..wow...wait. You're a guy?!!

For the time being, and as much as I don't like it........ Yes.

Since the formal process has started I've consciously and very deliberately got used to the idea I'll more than likely be spending the rest of my life single, or without any serious long term relationship that may turn into a lifetime with someone.

Then this has come up right out of the blue, and blown everything out of the water.
 
You know the film 51st dates, where Adam Sandler dates that girl who keeps forgetting and her family have to rewatch the 6th sense everyday, feigning their enthusiasm for the surprising twist having seen it a thousand times?

Wow..wow...wait. You're a guy?!!

It's kinds like that.
 
Um, so I see that I've missed a bit of an epic storyline here...:). Will need to do some homework in old threads.
 
. Can I risk dragging her through the mill just to have a fruitless, empty shell of a relationship at the end of it?

no. she's obviously had a **** time over something and is looking at things/the past with yourself through rose tinted glasses.

you know it's not the right move. if you thought it was the right move, you wouldn't be asking.

best to keep what you've got than risk the inevitability of things getting ridiculous and you losing a friend.
 
She's coming round tonight and we're having a cards on the table, no holds barred talk about things.

Neither of us are dumb and we'd be silly not to at least have a chat about things and find out exactly where we stand.

Being in the dark about it for the last 12 hours has been bad enough :(
 
What was the result of that by the way??
My opinion on that would be that if you find someone that loves you for who you are, close friend or partner, hold on to them like your life depended on it.


Anyway, reason I dropped in again was just to say how strange it is that the smallest of things can blind side you when least expecting it.
I thought it was rather chilly this morning so decided to throw on my favourite Arc'teryx fleece... Only trouble was it was also her favourite fleece and it still smells of her...
BUGGER. :(
 
Anyway, reason I dropped in again was just to say how strange it is that the smallest of things can blind side you when least expecting it.
I thought it was rather chilly this morning so decided to throw on my favourite Arc'teryx fleece... Only trouble was it was also her favourite fleece and it still smells of her...
BUGGER. :(

Heh, know that feeling.
Stumbled across a photograph of me & my ex at my parents yesterday. Felt like a punch in the stomach being reminded of happier times.
 
My word that's a girl that needs to move on in her life. Sorry, but if one member of a couple is changing sex its time for the other one to move on.
 
What was the result of that by the way??
My opinion on that would be that if you find someone that loves you for who you are, close friend or partner, hold on to them like your life depended on it.

That's pretty much what we decided.

We love each other, no doubting that. So we had to discuss whether that's enough - and it seems we both agree that it can be. There's only one person I've ever been with who I've thought I could spend the rest of my life with and it's her.

This is a chapter that has to be written in our lives. Happy ending or not, she and I would be fools unto ourselves to not give things a chance. Discussing the transition from a pseudo-lesbian relationship to a fully lesbian relationship, she's perfectly fine with it. As am I of course. Sexuality wise, well it would be very selfish of me to jeopardise maybe the one shot I'll ever have of being with someone just for a cheap thrill. We decided to cross that bridge when we come to it.

So, all in all, it was a healthy, constructive and emotional evening that built a certain number of bridges and laid some foundations to build upon.
 
God speed. :)

Hope it works out, given the hurdles you guys are trying to overcome it makes the issues the rest of us have in conventional relationships seem pretty trivial.
 
Good to see someone finding happiness!

Me on the other hand, well since my ex and I broke up I've been coming along in leaps and bounds, shedding weight and rebuilding relationships with friends and families!

That is where I have hit a snag, a great female friend of mine... has recently broken up with her boyfriend, he mistreated her very badly and we have been texting and chatting a lot, being a support for one-another as good friends do...

Only soft ***** here is developing feelings for this girl when I really know I shouldn't etc....


I feel so stupid!
 
God speed. :)

Hope it works out, given the hurdles you guys are trying to overcome it makes the issues the rest of us have in conventional relationships seem pretty trivial.

Affairs of the heart are always difficult things with the magnitude to hurt deeply or make good feelings of utter joy. The circumstances around everyone's issues are always unique but the basic premise remains the same - you do what you feel is right at the time.

My circumstances don't warrant any extra consideration, nor do they make anyone else's problems seem trivial. Yeah it complicates matters immensely but that's something she and I have to deal with.

And thank you for the good wishes :)
 
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