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aye.. but it also turns out to not be such an illegitimate ban.. he didn't refund the money that was sent to him, he just took it and assumed he would be ok because he specified in his post on e-o that only pre-agreed sales (i.e. before you send money, check he has cards available) will guarantee a GTC.
Phate said:
well if this is anything to go by then yeah:
http://ascn.eve-killboard.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=215983
(Check timestamp..)
Yes, a lot of us do.. but from a personal POV, I've taken a disliking to all the accusations he and CYVOK have been spouting. Even in the unlikely event they all turn out to be true, it still reeks of "WAAAAAA"
Back when I was in EDF (well over a year ago now) I'd say I had quite a lot of respect for him. Anyone running a corp of that size deserves it and in my opinion he did a good job. That said, I did leave the corp partly because of him. He's very dictatorial and demanding, something I think you need to be to an extent if you want to have a successful corp, and EDF is that. But its not for everyone.
With regards to the current sitaution, I think neither side has come off very well. ASCN look bad because they seem woefully incompetant in battle, and choose to blame it on BOB using exploits. While BOB seem no longer content in letting their (admittedly very impressive) in-game actions speak for themselves, and choose to engage in an unpleasant mud-slinging match on the forums as well. I thought the posting of John's blogs and mails on the eve-o forums was particularly bad form, it was nothing but flamebait and in all honesty I didnt think they were that bad. Aside from the accusation of BOB exploiting, it was just a bit biased, but then what do you expect from a CEO of a major ASCN corp?
With regards to the current sitaution, I think neither side has come off very well. ASCN look bad because they seem woefully incompetant in battle, and choose to blame it on BOB using exploits. While BOB seem no longer content in letting their (admittedly very impressive) in-game actions speak for themselves, and choose to engage in an unpleasant mud-slinging match on the forums as well. I thought the posting of John's blogs and mails on the eve-o forums was particularly bad form, it was nothing but flamebait and in all honesty I didnt think they were that bad. Aside from the accusation of BOB exploiting, it was just a bit biased, but then what do you expect from a CEO of a major ASCN corp?
Last night 19:00 to 23:00 ASCN had the best time since the start of the war,
I think that time period BoB lost more Battleships than we did, cant confirm as I dont have access to either killboards and also ours has been restricted in kill posting because of fake mails.
I think that time period BoB lost more Battleships than we did, cant confirm as I dont have access to either killboards and also ours has been restricted in kill posting because of fake mails.
Agreed with Gatsby.
Tbh, there is only one thing I've seen in this war that I would call 'fishy' - not an exploit just, I dunno, taking advantage of the situation:
Previously when we have fought BoB we rarely, if ever, saw them jump into us. (This is personal experience.. I haven't been in every bob fight
)
Now since the node crash epidemic and the login system, I am seeing BoB actually rush to make sure they are the first to jump. The reason why BoB are so hasty to jump first appears to be because the node is guaranteed to crash if more then 10 people jump at once. Then we see BoB some how managing to login, and more importantly, regroup quicker than our own fleets - no flames here, it's just simply how it is.. BoB are logging in and reforming quicker than ASCN.
Now that's the gate camp broken, essentially the first line of defence defeated. What sucks about it, is it wasn't a kickass fight that broke the camp, it wasn't a session of raw carnage, it was node death that beat the camp.
The next sucky part is due to login queues everyone logs in, in dribs and drabs and reappearing all over the place - sometimes infront of a hostile fleet == immediate death. These losses are petitionable, but that's not the point.
Like I say.. I don't call it an exploit, as there isn't anything either side can do about it, short of saying "We'll let you jump in unhindered provided you meet us at 'x' and we both wait 5mins for the lag to clear before we start pew pewing." Which quite obviously, is never going to happen.
Tbh, there is only one thing I've seen in this war that I would call 'fishy' - not an exploit just, I dunno, taking advantage of the situation:
Previously when we have fought BoB we rarely, if ever, saw them jump into us. (This is personal experience.. I haven't been in every bob fight
)Now since the node crash epidemic and the login system, I am seeing BoB actually rush to make sure they are the first to jump. The reason why BoB are so hasty to jump first appears to be because the node is guaranteed to crash if more then 10 people jump at once. Then we see BoB some how managing to login, and more importantly, regroup quicker than our own fleets - no flames here, it's just simply how it is.. BoB are logging in and reforming quicker than ASCN.
Now that's the gate camp broken, essentially the first line of defence defeated. What sucks about it, is it wasn't a kickass fight that broke the camp, it wasn't a session of raw carnage, it was node death that beat the camp.
The next sucky part is due to login queues everyone logs in, in dribs and drabs and reappearing all over the place - sometimes infront of a hostile fleet == immediate death. These losses are petitionable, but that's not the point.
Like I say.. I don't call it an exploit, as there isn't anything either side can do about it, short of saying "We'll let you jump in unhindered provided you meet us at 'x' and we both wait 5mins for the lag to clear before we start pew pewing." Which quite obviously, is never going to happen.
It is a shame the servers don't allow you the war you want. It is a shame content is more important than fixing existing issues in CCP's mind.
I don't have facts to hand but I expect BoB pilots all have their overviews sorted, turret effects off, combat logs off and a disciplined TS...
I can't generalise for all of ASCN however there was a video posted by one pilot. complaining of the lag and you can see how many unneeded tags he has on the overview, showing frigs and pods when he is in a BS, chat windows open all over the place. He starts locking 6 BS from A-Z in the alphabet (so no1 is calling targets). So it doesn't suprise me the way the numbers are going.
I think in the long run it would be terrible, however whilst the servers are acting so poorly, I don't know if arranged battles would at least allow people to get a shot off:
GM's allowing both fleets to meet inside a system on its own node.
It really would suck compared to the fights where you come in from two directions or where your allies bring a second wave..but hey node crashes suck as well?
I don't have facts to hand but I expect BoB pilots all have their overviews sorted, turret effects off, combat logs off and a disciplined TS...
I can't generalise for all of ASCN however there was a video posted by one pilot. complaining of the lag and you can see how many unneeded tags he has on the overview, showing frigs and pods when he is in a BS, chat windows open all over the place. He starts locking 6 BS from A-Z in the alphabet (so no1 is calling targets). So it doesn't suprise me the way the numbers are going.
I think in the long run it would be terrible, however whilst the servers are acting so poorly, I don't know if arranged battles would at least allow people to get a shot off:
GM's allowing both fleets to meet inside a system on its own node.
It really would suck compared to the fights where you come in from two directions or where your allies bring a second wave..but hey node crashes suck as well?