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StevieP said:
I wouldn't put money on it if I were you! ;)

Results rarely lie imo - Silva came of of that fight with barely a mark on him so you could point the finger at Sonnen - if he dominated Silva that much over the course of 4 rounds (and he did!!) then why couldnt he finish him??
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While he may not have had a mark on him he did need to be helped to the back afterwards, despite losing the fight Sonnen mauled him.

Bare in mind up until this point Anderson Silva had dominated every fight, he had never really been in a difficult moment (I dont agree that he was ever in trouble vs Lutter or Hendo) - he spent 4 rounds on his back getting smashed in the face. Sonnen didnt finish him because Sonnens game isnt built around finishes, its very rare that you will see somebody finished from guard.

I see Silva taking this one, he has had 2 years to drill his wrestling constantly - if he can stop Chaels power double then its going to be a rough night for Chael.
 
Anderson got beaten to a pulp in the first fight but i think this one will be much closer. Hard to call, both fighters will of improved also.
 
Omaeka said:
Now tell me this, after being outstruck, out grappled and dominated for 4 and a half rounds, then winning by submission, how is he going to beat Chael this time? He cannot sub him twice, he was lucky the first time, a second time would be a flat out miracle.
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First of all I want to say, I am 100% routing for Sonnen. I used to be a massive fan of Silva but now dislike him greatly.

Anyway, regarding the above quote. The whole fight Sonnen was in danger of that triangle. He constantly allowed silva to control that wrist and pin it to his hip. Ok, fine, he needs to work on his triangle defence but I have seen him allow the same thing to happen SINCE the Silva fight. Come on coaches, sort it out.

I think he gets too carried away with gnp and forgets about submissions, which is bad.

The reason Chael did so well last time is he is the only fighter I have seen who has 0 respect for Silvas striking.

I think Silva will take this one convincingly but I really hope he doesn't.
 
ShortWarning said:
I think Silva will take this one convincingly but I really hope he doesn't.
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This tbh!

Much as I'd love to see Sonnen do the business, I can't help but feel that last time out Chael was at 120% of capacity.... and still couldn't get the "W" :(

I haven't been overly impressed with him since his ban - he was poor against Bisping and to a lesser degree against Stann - both of which I expected him to dominate and beat easily after his performance against Silva last time out!

Just hope I'm wrong!
 
Sonnen will be at 130% this time though - he's had a long time to dwell on a second chance and he'll be trying to steamroll Silva right from the bell!

However, I do think Silva will be a different fighter this time, he looked very sloppy last time giving away takedowns uncharacteristically. Can't wait to see the fight!
 
This is playing out like the Paulo Filo fight, sonnen dominated and lost in the first fight, they had a rematch and Sonnen stomped him and won.

This is a great card, should be some great fights.
 
StevieP said:
I haven't been overly impressed with him since his ban - he was poor against Bisping and to a lesser degree against Stann
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I thought the Stann fight he completely dominated, the Bisping fight was really close though. Bisping is underrated , i thought chael looked very drained from the cut in that fight.
 
Omaeka said:
Silva fanboys are getting really annoying now. I've never been one of his fans, but if I was I'd accept he was lucky to of beat him the first time.
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Says the Silva hater...


Omaeka said:
Now tell me this, after being outstruck, out grappled and dominated for 4 and a half rounds, then winning by submission, how is he going to beat Chael this time? He cannot sub him twice, he was lucky the first time, a second time would be a flat out miracle.
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Chael is known for being susceptible to submissions. Anderson Silva is a black belt in BJJ with proven submission skills. In a 25 minute fight I'd say there is a fair chance Silva could land another submission.

Omaeka said:
I don't really like Anderson, as a person outside of the sport yea he's an alright dude, but inside the cage and inside MMA he's a total *****, he ducks anyone who might beat him as much as he can, and rely's on his status and renown to defeat his opponents. The only person who didn't fear him was Chael, and he was the only person who beat him.
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Who exactly has Anderson ducked? He has beaten various fighters who were pretty bad match ups for him, Hendo and Chael being probably the most notable due to their wrestling.

Omaeka said:
Yushin Okami could have destroyed him, that guy is huge and rolls with heavyweights and overpowers them, but he got scared and just ate fists, he didn't even try a takedown!
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I do agree Okami choked as he was terrified of Silva, but I disagree that Okami didn't try for a takedown. Okami grabs hold of people and drags them down, he had Silva against the cage for a while in the first round and just ate knees before giving up, I'd say if the opportunity presented it's self there he would have taken him down, but it didn't, then he gave up..

Omaeka said:
What you need to destroy somebody like Silva is a monster of a wrestler, and that is what Chael is, and after the first fight, Silva has no hope.
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What a crazy statement...how much have you bet on Sonnen?

I have literally just re-watched Silva vs Sonnen 1 as a build up for this Saturday and I definitely don't think Silva looked his usual self however I don't believe all the excuses about him wanting to submit Sonnen and having injuries etc. There is no way he chose to take a beating for 23 minutes.

I can't actually picture Silva doing much differently from the first fight due to just how controlling Sonnen was, however when I think about it logically the the odds must still definitely be in Silva's favour to pull something out of the bag. He's an elite striker and only has to land one good shot to rock Sonnen and lead into a KO or submission.

Sonnen's best chance is to grind Silva out for 25 full minutes, avoiding kicks, punches, submission attempts etc. What would be truly impressive is if Sonnen somehow finished Silva with an arm triangle or similar.
 
StevieP said:
This tbh!

Much as I'd love to see Sonnen do the business, I can't help but feel that last time out Chael was at 120% of capacity.... and still couldn't get the "W" :(

I haven't been overly impressed with him since his ban - he was poor against Bisping and to a lesser degree against Stann - both of which I expected him to dominate and beat easily after his performance against Silva last time out!

Just hope I'm wrong!
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I thought Chael looked great in the Stann fight to be honest. I loved his post fight antics too "Anderson Silva you SUCK!"

Amazing haha
 
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Cannot wait. Anderson gonna end it in the first round.

Also no one mentioned anything about Franklin v W.Silva. I'm guessing you people saw it? Unless the two events in two days confused you all. D:
 
Franklin - Silva went as expected for me, which I am happy about although Franklin was lucky that he got smashed at the end of the round so he had time to recover. Great fight which stopped me thinking about the ****** main event the night before.

I LOVE the fact that Anderson is getting angry! Although I'm not sure it's good for Chael as he might just get a different beast come Saturday. I'm still hoping Chael wins though.
 
Appelhanns said:
Franklin - Silva went as expected for me, which I am happy about although Franklin was lucky that he got smashed at the end of the round so he had time to recover. Great fight which stopped me thinking about the ****** main event the night before.

I LOVE the fact that Anderson is getting angry! Although I'm not sure it's good for Chael as he might just get a different beast come Saturday. I'm still hoping Chael wins though.
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Getting into someone head is only a good thing. Knocks them off their game.

Might lead Anderson into attacking then getting put on his arse
 
Bigpig said:
Getting into someone head is only a good thing. Knocks them off their game.

Might lead Anderson into attacking then getting put on his arse
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Normally would completely agree but I think there's a small chance that it will work for him this time, as last time although he may have underestimated Chael, he ignored the taunts and stayed calm and still got battered.
 
Appelhanns said:
Normally would completely agree but I think there's a small chance that it will work for him this time, as last time although he may have underestimated Chael, he ignored the taunts and stayed calm and still got battered.
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I don't know. I've never seen Silva look angry, let alone how he behaved at the press conference.

I'd say it will definitely effect him in the fight. This could be a good thing or a bad thing for him though.
 
Silva acted like a complete **** at the press conference, like a big baby, same as last time.

Giving one word answers and the like, awww diddums, he disrespected you, grow up for christ sake. Hope Sonnen smashes him.
 
Everyone talking about Silva vs. Sonnen 2, you guys do realize Sonnen totally outstruck him standing yes? He dominated on the feet as much as he did on the ground, and ontop of that Chael has one of the best chins in the business (you only have to bloody look at his face to realize that!)

Also, the people who think Sonnen is placid and 'scared' of other fighters when they are face to face need to realise Sonnen doesn't want any fighting to happen out the cage, hes got more manners and class than most fighters. No doubt a lot of Silva fanboys will be hating at how Sonnen reacted in the square up a few days ago.
 
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