Rashad Evans is completely right about Rampage, he moves like Frankenstein. I think Jon Jones will prove to be too big for Rampage to be able to land anything on him. Personally I'd love to see Jon Jones knocked out but I think this is a fight where he has the advantage in every aspect. Rampage has to be in tip top condition if he has a chance of beating Jon Jones.
**The Official Everything MMA Related Thread**
- Thread starter The IPB
- Start date
Soldato
I get the feeling rampage is just gonna stand in front of him and let jon jones just do what ever he wants... spinning back kicks and steven segal front jaw upper kicks, Jon jones may just try the buddah palm punch.
Thats the problem with Jon Jones, the guys just a freak in size and strength just looks like hes tossing people around in his weight class, and even if he feels the slightest bit threatened he can just jab from a mile away.
Rampage can only do some damage if he gets up close and some boxing, or knees.. but thats just gonna be too difficult looks like he would need rashads speed and wrestling to perhaps give jon jones problems, either way cannot wait for Rashad vs Jon Jones !
Yeah I reckon if rampage doesnt win this fight he knows hes got no chance and no point to come back, he will be thrown into the likes of shogun/machida/Evans/forrest...its just too stacked and would require another year or 2 and 3+ fights to get back into contention. Rampage can proberly sign up to a tv series or star in those MMA martial art films
Thats the problem with Jon Jones, the guys just a freak in size and strength just looks like hes tossing people around in his weight class, and even if he feels the slightest bit threatened he can just jab from a mile away.
Rampage can only do some damage if he gets up close and some boxing, or knees.. but thats just gonna be too difficult looks like he would need rashads speed and wrestling to perhaps give jon jones problems, either way cannot wait for Rashad vs Jon Jones !
Yeah I reckon if rampage doesnt win this fight he knows hes got no chance and no point to come back, he will be thrown into the likes of shogun/machida/Evans/forrest...its just too stacked and would require another year or 2 and 3+ fights to get back into contention. Rampage can proberly sign up to a tv series or star in those MMA martial art films
Yeah the eventual Jones v Evans fight should be good. He's not fought anyone as quick or athletic as Evans. No doubting the guys talent but he has faced slow fighters who stalk their opponents around the octagon. Evans I'm sure is already in his head and he'll play on that until their fight. But again, that reach advantage will be huge over Evans.
Caporegime
- Joined
- 21 Jun 2006
- Posts
- 38,367
i think machida has the best chance tbh, jon jones's weakness is going to be leg kicks, he has chicken legs.
so anyone with decent leg kicks and a bjj black belt in case jones gets a takedown from a leg kick has the best chance.
stay on the outside and just kick the crap out of those pencil thin legs.
so anyone with decent leg kicks and a bjj black belt in case jones gets a takedown from a leg kick has the best chance.
stay on the outside and just kick the crap out of those pencil thin legs.
Shogun? Didn't work out too well for him, he fits your description perfectly
I think a lot of you are underestimating rampage, I can't see Jones KO'ing him. He has a hell of a chin, it's going to come down to if he can stop the takedown, and if he can stop it, can he land on the feet.
If anyone can test Jones chin it will be rampage or perhaps Rashad. I like Jones and he will probably win the fight, but don't think for a second it's a given.
Caporegime
- Joined
- 21 Jun 2006
- Posts
- 38,367
Shogun? Didn't work out too well for him, he fits your description perfectly
I think a lot of you are underestimating rampage, I can't see Jones KO'ing him. He has a hell of a chin, it's going to come down to if he can stop the takedown, and if he can stop it, can he land on the feet.
If anyone can test Jones chin it will be rampage or perhaps Rashad. I like Jones and he will probably win the fight, but don't think for a second it's a given.
shogun didnt throw a single leg kick, he was too afraid of being taken down.
had he decided against his approach of i'll match him in stand up, he could have probably did some damage.
but watch the fight again, not a single leg kick was thrown by shogun.
Soldato
It does look like a couple of decent leg kicks could do damage to jones chicken legs, but its still to be seen, while his legs are long and thin hes got some muscle and power in his legs.
And either way look at Jones stance and the way he positions himself during stand up, the guy looks like a giant spider in the octagon I dont think anyones legs are gonna even reach him and if they do not without being taken down or an elbow to the face.
And either way look at Jones stance and the way he positions himself during stand up, the guy looks like a giant spider in the octagon I dont think anyones legs are gonna even reach him and if they do not without being taken down or an elbow to the face.
So excited for this fight already! Amazing they pulled it off.
Seems odd though that basically will be #2 contender for the belt yet Brock got battered and surely would have to work his way up? Can see why Overeem would be there to unify the two.
I can't picture both of them in a cage standing opposite each other
Seems odd though that basically will be #2 contender for the belt yet Brock got battered and surely would have to work his way up? Can see why Overeem would be there to unify the two.
I can't picture both of them in a cage standing opposite each other
Caporegime
- Joined
- 21 Jun 2006
- Posts
- 38,367
yeah he does have muscle on them, but i see them as his greatest weakness tbh, they are still tiny compared to anyone else in light heavyweight category.
if shogun had thrown leg kicks, he would have had 10 times better chance of beating him, was surprised he never tried it. too scared of being taken down, which is a loser's mentality.
Soldato
Probably because Brock is a wrestling superstar and pulls in tons of PPV $$$
Soldato
Soldato
How tall is Jon Jones. You don't realise how big people are until you see them next to other people who you also think is massive 
An there is a reason why he didn't too, the counter to a kick is a lovely cross. An with Jones wingspan he could land it quite easily.
Also even Shogun said that first knee ended the fight for him, he was just hanging on with heart after that.
I think a rematch would be quite different.
Last edited:
Soldato
Can he do much better then this though ?
I think shogun needs to take out another 1-2 top 5 guys before getting another shot, even if it means taking out machida/rampage/evans/davis, id say same applies for machida even.
I think shogun needs to take out another 1-2 top 5 guys before getting another shot, even if it means taking out machida/rampage/evans/davis, id say same applies for machida even.
I really think he can yeah.
Associate
Diaz Out, Condit in.
Much better matchup I think, Diddnt think Diaz stood a chance really, Should just feed him to BJ now.
Much better matchup I think, Diddnt think Diaz stood a chance really, Should just feed him to BJ now.
Last edited:
Soldato
Jon Jones will win in the first round. The kid is going to be something special in years to come. Jones vs Silva would be a fight of the century.
Overeem vs Lesner is a strange fight. Brock's last win was in july 2010 and overeem hasn't ever fought in the UFC. Then again, Overeem has won the majority of his fights in the first round.
Overeem vs Lesner is a strange fight. Brock's last win was in july 2010 and overeem hasn't ever fought in the UFC. Then again, Overeem has won the majority of his fights in the first round.
Last edited:
I agree, but I don't think he's fighting to his full potential. He's playing it safe. 'Fighting to not lose' if yo ulike. Although he does have the ability to finish people convincingly. I just don't think he wants to risk it.