**** The Official Google Pixel 2/Pixel 2 XL Thread ****

Isn't that the answer to people saying they can't charge and listen to music on headphones? Why is that retarded?

I'm in the camp that doesn't mind there being no headphone jack, but surely that gives people an option they might want?
 
AndyCr15 said:
Isn't that the answer to people saying they can't charge and listen to music on headphones? Why is that retarded?

I'm in the camp that doesn't mind there being no headphone jack, but surely that gives people an option they might want?
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Its a VERY expensive, even more than Apples similar cable, to a problem, that never should exist on such an expensive device.
 
Watched parts of the presentation and really like the design.

It seems as though that Google is really pushing the boat out with Android and coming up with new ideas, features, etc.

Everything is going away from wires so i'm not surprised that they removed the headphone port. No wireless charging surprises me though.
 
I worry about additional wear and tear on the USB port with all these daft dongles doing the rounds now. Prefer it when the headphone socket and USB ports were separate entities.
 
AndyCr15 said:
Some Sony SBH80's almost 2 years old now. Quite tempted by the Pixelbuds tbh. (Who ever it is getting angry about Oreo having a Bluetooth problem... it doesn't. Two different headphones, my bike helmet, my car, all work fine. Unfortunately you have a Bluetooth problem :( )



A good point, I was thinking this myself. I don't know if I can get £550 or so for my year old Pixel XL, so really it's only costing me £200 to upgrade. I'm fine with that.



I don't think they're competitors tbh. GoPro is an action camera for adrenaline junkies (yes, of course others use it too) where as the Clip is for new parents capturing moments. Two camera's probably couldn't be for much different target audiences than that.
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Thinking some more about Clips, you might be surprised to learn that the number one use case for GoPro and Yi cameras is family despite their sporting image, and this is the market that Google is going after. What makes Clips different it seems is its functionality.

The idea with Clips is to position it during an event or gathering and leave it to gather the best photos and video clips. This is Google using its AI chops to best effect----note the AI is kept local and not sent off automatically to the Google cloud for processing.

If it works well I think it will cut into GoPro quite significantly.
 
anyone else prefer the black xl over the white? I know the white is different, but kinda looks like a childs toy and can't stop thinking about the lumia 640xl whenever I see it
 
TheOracle said:
anyone else prefer the black xl over the white? I know the white is different, but kinda looks like a childs toy and can't stop thinking about the lumia 640xl whenever I see it
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I was really torn between the two, but I went for the black XL in the end for much the same reasons as you just stated.

Also the B&W one wouldn't be delivered until December.
 
V_R said:
I was torn between the two, but I went for the black XL for much the same reasons as you just stated.

Also the B&W one wouldn't be delivered until December.
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Yeah, and seeing the white edges when watching a movie in landscape mode would do my head in

Still hate the two tone design, it's just an ugly look. Why can't they just have an all glass back? also, still got bezels!
 
Whats the story with the free Home Mini by the way? Will it be delivered with the phone or is it redeemable in some other way? I missed that part of the announcement and just saw it mentioned.
 
TheOracle said:
I'm not sure the latest snapdragon will beat it. The a11 destroys the 835, it's a massive leap forward. Wasn't it the owner of passmark who recently said the gap between them now has gotten so big over the past year or two they have a serious problem.

I'd be impressed if the 845 gets even close
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Not a chance as you say. I am pretty sure I have seen some benchmarks where the A10 beats the 835. The A11 is simply monstrous.
 
AndyCr15 said:
All in all not an amazingly exciting presentation, but still interesting with some interesting products. I don't think we expected the Google Home Max did we? If their sample guy is to be believed, that could be a handy replacement to an entire stereo for someone like myself (well, if I had a stereo.)

The Pixelbook looks nice, but pricey for a Chromebook.

The Pixel 2 and XL are kinda what we expected and at the price we thought (the sensible ones of us anyway). I don't really get the people saying the Dx0 of 98 means nothing? That's like saying benchmarks mean nothing. I know they aren't necessary 100% accurate measure, but it still a measure. Last years Pixel topped the chart and was an amazing phone. How was the Dx0 inaccurate. 98 sounds kinds of amazing, and only a couple of days after the Note 8 had claimed the crown. (Oh, and the iPhone 8 I see, both at

I got my order of B&W XL in, 15-17 November. Tbh, the black probably looks a little better, but the B&W is more recognisable :)
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Thinking overnight and boiling it down to one or two elements, I think what truly sets the Pixel 2 apart are the new features such as Google Lens which offers the best image recognition and the fact that Google uses AI to do with one camera that everyone else needs two. The OLED displays are a good move too.

I do like the Always On display feature that gives me key info on the screen even when the phone is off, with no apparent hit to battery life. I note that Apple did not include this feature in the X which seems odd.
 
TheOracle said:
anyone else prefer the black xl over the white? I know the white is different, but kinda looks like a childs toy and can't stop thinking about the lumia 640xl whenever I see it
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I note the press refer to the black and white XL as the "Panda" or "Stormtrooper" design. I prefer Pandas. :p:p
 
sesevans said:
Thinking overnight and boiling it down to one or two elements, I think what truly sets the Pixel 2 apart are the new features such as Google Lens which offers the best image recognition and the fact that Google uses AI to do with one camera that everyone else needs two. The OLED displays are a good move too.

I do like the Always On display feature that gives me key info on the screen even when the phone is off, with no apparent hit to battery life. I note that Apple did not include this feature in the X which seems odd.
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Unfortunately your bias towards google diminishes your credibility. Googles portrait mode is clever, but it's not as good as having a dedicated second camera. You can clearly see this on the dxo review.

The always on display (and its ability to display playing music) is probably one of the few features I got excited over.
 
V_R said:
Whats the story with the free Home Mini by the way? Will it be delivered with the phone or is it redeemable in some other way? I missed that part of the announcement and just saw it mentioned.
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I am sure you will get your free Mini with your pre-order.

I am also sure it convinced some fence-sitters to hit that Buy button. I think volumes will be much bigger for the Pixel 2s than many expect. Before the launch, The Verge said that Google's biggest problem will be keeping up with the demand.
 
sesevans said:
I am sure you will get your free Mini with your pre-order.

I am also sure it convinced some fence-sitters to hit that Buy button. I think volumes will be much bigger for the Pixel 2s than many expect. Before the launch, The Verge said that Google's biggest problem will be keeping up with the demand.
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I was buying a mini anyway, so that £50 saving did factor into me hitting the buy button
 
TheOracle said:
Unfortunately your bias towards google diminishes your credibility. Googles portrait mode is clever, but it's not as good as having a dedicated second camera. You can clearly see this on the dxo review.

The always on display (and its ability to display playing music) is probably one of the few features I got excited over.
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Just the facts. That 98 on the review speaks volumes to me.
 
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