**** The Official Google Pixel 2/Pixel 2 XL Thread ****

If anyone has purchased a Pixel 2 and used an EE SIM card in it (ie. the device was not purchased from EE), would you mind confirming that WiFi and 4G calling work please?

According to this thread it should, but it would be good to hear from someone that has tried it. Thanks :)
 
thewanted said:
If anyone has purchased a Pixel 2 and used an EE SIM card in it (ie. the device was not purchased from EE), would you mind confirming that WiFi and 4G calling work please?

According to this thread it should, but it would be good to hear from someone that has tried it. Thanks :)
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That would be handy. Don't think it works on the Nexus 5x as I never purchased it from EE.
 
I’m pretty sure the pixels work the same way as iPhones, as they’re sent direct from Google. My OnePlus for example had no issues connecting to WiFi calling
 
I noticed a few comments from those buyers of the Pixel 2 XL in the U.S. who have received their phones and have been using them for a few days.

Do you believe them to be accurate and perhaps what our reactions are likely to be next month?

Comment 1. "The Pixel 2 XL issues are not that bad.

Yeah, Samsung screens are a bit better. But the Pixel phone's camera is much better than Samsung's. I look forward to developers writing some apps to output raw image files."

Comment 2. "
It's amazing all the haters out there. You'd think you couldn't read text on the display or something!

I received my Pixel 2 XL yesterday. I was worried with all the coverage that I would be returning it instantly - but that is far from the case. The display is substantially better than my 1.5 year old Samsung S7. Also better than a iPhone 7 Plus. I will admit that I haven't seen every new phone, but the display the great. I am willing to believe that it isn't the best of this year phones, but it more than good enough."

Comment 3. "My wife and I got our Pixel 2 XL a few days ago.

Compared to our Pixel XL (1st gen) we noticed that the colors look different (more "washed out") and that there is indeed a blueshift when you tilt the phone. We didn't notice any graininess.

After a couple of days of using it, I got used to the colors. I noticed that it's easier on my eyes. It's true that orange icons such as the Google Keep icon look quite different but I don't find it unpleasant. I think I will keep the current color scheme when the update comes out.

I don't think the blue tint is fixable but it's not something that bothers me.

Overall, I feel the issue has been exaggerated. I am grateful that the warranty has been extended especially since this is an LG-made phone and all of our Nexus 5X (5 of them!) broke eventually due to the same motherboard failure (4 of them in year 2)."

Comment 4. "Don't worry. When the iPhone X is released they'll move on to the iPhone X display **** show."

Comment 5. "Just got the 2XL this week. One thing that has confused me is the issue with blue tint when viewing at an angle. I definitely see the tint... but when checking it out I realized also never look at my phone at those angles.

I'm curious about what use-case is affected by this: are people trying to use their phones flat on a table or something?"
 
Look, this screen thing is real. Even if you forgive all the hardware defects the simple fact is a great camera is only as good as the display you output on... so

1. Take a great photo with the super awesome Pixel 2XL camera
2. Look at it on the Pixel 2XL screen... oh yeah that looks good, but maybe I need to push the saturation and up the brightness because of crushed blacks
3. Oh, my friends would like this... share to friends and on social
4. Get messages from friends who are looking at the photos on regularly calibrated DCIP3 displays and messages start pouring in..
5. Friends all think you have taken a way over saturated and overexposed photo and say your camera is rubbish... but to you, on your screen, it looks great.

Thats a regular use case that is affected every single day by having a "weird" display... people who spend £800+ on a day 1 device are enthusiasts like us... and will make excuses and justifications... I've now seen at least 4 Pixel 2XL screens in the flesh - and it's put me off completely.
 
Well, I wouldn't buy it if it's not calibrated properly. These days there's no excuse for it. You wouldn't put up with sound that distorts or has no treble so why put up with it on the single most important part of the phone?
 
distorted sound is much worse than mis-calibrated colours but anyway, calibration isnt the most important feature for most people and even if it was, being calibrated doesnt mean that what you are seeing is 100% accurate. Until manufactures start implementing colour profiles that can correct for ambient light, it doesnt mean very much at all. The displaymate reviews of samsungs recent phones explain this very well and I've already mentioned it but colour accuracy drops as the ambient light increases and more than you probably realise, enough to mean that in daylight viewing (and i dont mean direct sunlight), the DCI-P3 profiles on the recent batch on samsung phones will be closer to 100% sRGB coverage than the sRGB mode is.

In other words, none of the phones out there are calibrated unless you only intend to use them in pitch black environments.
 
thewanted said:
If anyone has purchased a Pixel 2 and used an EE SIM card in it (ie. the device was not purchased from EE), would you mind confirming that WiFi and 4G calling work please?

According to this thread it should, but it would be good to hear from someone that has tried it. Thanks :)
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If the handset was supplied by EE it'll come with the correct modem config IMS settings. I don't know about the Pixels 100% but stock Google firmware for the 6P didn't have the config, but it was included within pretty much every custom ROM. I'd imagine you can flash the EE specific firmware once it becomes available, or unlock the bootloader and flash a custom ROM that has had the IMS settings for EEUK added. They are in /system so you'll need official EE firmware or to unlock the bootloader sadly!

Only iPhones seem to get OTA IMS settings thus far!
 
Ravster said:
Look, this screen thing is real. Even if you forgive all the hardware defects the simple fact is a great camera is only as good as the display you output on... so

1. Take a great photo with the super awesome Pixel 2XL camera
2. Look at it on the Pixel 2XL screen... oh yeah that looks good, but maybe I need to push the saturation and up the brightness because of crushed blacks
3. Oh, my friends would like this... share to friends and on social
4. Get messages from friends who are looking at the photos on regularly calibrated DCIP3 displays and messages start pouring in..
5. Friends all think you have taken a way over saturated and overexposed photo and say your camera is rubbish... but to you, on your screen, it looks great.

Thats a regular use case that is affected every single day by having a "weird" display... people who spend £800+ on a day 1 device are enthusiasts like us... and will make excuses and justifications... I've now seen at least 4 Pixel 2XL screens in the flesh - and it's put me off completely.
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Sorry but I am not fussed about sharing pictures on social media looking for likes and comments. I don't see the issues and none of the big reviewers seem concerned. You can already download a app that shows more colours if you like the Samsung's happy over saturated look. Google will also unlock more

I am not saying as most reviewers are saying its the best screen going or on the same level as the Samsung's. But it's not bad at all.
 
Ravster said:
Look, this screen thing is real. Even if you forgive all the hardware defects the simple fact is a great camera is only as good as the display you output on... so

1. Take a great photo with the super awesome Pixel 2XL camera
2. Look at it on the Pixel 2XL screen... oh yeah that looks good, but maybe I need to push the saturation and up the brightness because of crushed blacks
3. Oh, my friends would like this... share to friends and on social
4. Get messages from friends who are looking at the photos on regularly calibrated DCIP3 displays and messages start pouring in..
5. Friends all think you have taken a way over saturated and overexposed photo and say your camera is rubbish... but to you, on your screen, it looks great.

Thats a regular use case that is affected every single day by having a "weird" display... people who spend £800+ on a day 1 device are enthusiasts like us... and will make excuses and justifications... I've now seen at least 4 Pixel 2XL screens in the flesh - and it's put me off completely.
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I'm far from trying to make excuses for it, as I'm definitely going to wait and see what Joe public thinks of it before I potentially buy, however, surely in this case, you would only make that mistake once anyway?

I did see one review where they went over this. Also the current colour setting on the P2XL appears not to use the whole colour gamut. This resulted in a lack of detail, but this is fixable in software, and apparently, Firefox already uses the whole colour gamut.

I'm just going to keep an eye on the forums here and places like xda to see what people think in the real world. One of the comments above was that they felt the screen was that it was better than their S7. To be honest, if it was even as good as my S7 Edge then I think I would have no cause for complaint.

I still think its too expensive though. We'll see....
 
Ultimately you are paying £170 extra just for the XL screen from the regular 2. I really don't think people are getting £170 worth of better screen tbh, that's the main issue. For that sort of added premium it should be amazing!
 
chanjy said:
Ultimately you are paying £170 extra just for the XL screen from the regular 2. I really don't think people are getting £170 worth of better screen tbh, that's the main issue. For that sort of added premium it should be amazing!
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That's actually the best argument I've seen for the whole screen issue
 
It's a reasonable point, but tbh if I was pedantic I wasn't expecting a better screen than the Pixel, I'm pay for a bigger screen than the Pixel. I would have hoped it to be of the same quality, like everything else in the device. If it's worse, of course that's not good, but it being better is not what I paid £170 for.
 
AndyCr15 said:
It's a reasonable point, but tbh if I was pedantic I wasn't expecting a better screen than the Pixel, I'm pay for a bigger screen than the Pixel. I would have hoped it to be of the same quality, like everything else in the device. If it's worse, of course that's not good, but it being better is not what I paid £170 for.
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I think the expectation for most people is for it to be better. A pretty reasonable expectation for £170 charge for a QHD OLED and a slightly bigger battery IMHO.
 
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