**** The Official Google Pixel 2/Pixel 2 XL Thread ****

Such a shame to hear these quirks about the screen on the XL2, I was sorely tempted but now I think I'll stick with my Pixel XL until early next year to see if Google iron them out or maybe even for the Pixel 3
 
MLAM said:
Such a shame to hear these quirks about the screen on the XL2, I was sorely tempted but now I think I'll stick with my Pixel XL until early next year to see if Google iron them out or maybe even for the Pixel 3
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Same here.

People can go on all they like about being able to live with the flaws, but no way. Not at this price point. I've picked up the 1st gen XL for £399 and that'll see me through until Pixel 3 and we'll see what progress Google has made by that point.
 
I’ve taken some photos of the screen, need to go through the thread again and see if I’ve missed anything (I’ve done blue tint and washed out colours of normal vs extra saturated)

How would I go about trying to capture grainy-ness?

Edit: I’ve just noticed the clamps are done up way too tight on the phone in store, literally crushing the display :/
 


Bottom picture is with vivid mode on. Note that these were taken on an iPhone 7, which is known for having really dull colours.

Will re do blue tint pictures as where the device is being clamped so hard, it’s creating a rainbow effect across a light background. There is a blue tint, and because the screen is quite tall, you can always see it at the bottom and top if looking straight on. It really doesn’t look as bad as the photos however, but still not ideal.
 
The problem with tint photos, is that the camera will adjust the white balance to suit the lighting. So if you're back from the screen, you'll get the white balance set by ambient lighting and it might look odd, or if you take it close it'll use the phones light for white balance could mask any issues (or just look like how it looks!)
 
Ravster said:
That's it. Any ideas of buying it are buried for me. If they'd released the 2XL at 549 maybe they'd get a pass, but at that price might it's just unacceptable.
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The fact she had 2 XL2's and they both had different uniformity issues was bad to see.

And the lack of reds in sRGB mode puzzles me, why is it not calibrated properly in the first place.
 
Well this explains the blue shift.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/77p0m9/pixel_xl_vs_pixel_2_xl_polarization_comparison/

I used a linear polarizer to compare how the screen looks at the polarizer's maximum and minimum transmission orientations. White balance is not set to Auto, but is chosen to remain the same for each photo. Exposure time and ISO is fixed for each comparison. There are two sets for the OG pixel, because the Max/Min transmissions were too different to capture at a single exposure time.

https://imgur.com/a/8gAAG

Conclusions: Viewing the Pixel 2 XL with polarized sunglasses will be possible at any angle; transmission remains approximately the same but colors will change. As expected, the OG Pixel XL can not be viewed at certain angles with polarized glasses.

Note that the Pixel 2 XL screen has a blueish tint due to the polarizer. I believe Google's integrated polarizer on the screen may be causing a similar effect when the phone is tilted back and forth.

We can postulate that for the Pixel 2 XL, the blueish tint is a tradeoff for better polarized sunglasses viewing. My opinion is that the tradeoff was not worth it.

Edit: While I think my measurements provide solid data, keep in mind my conclusions are still just speculation based on limited data. I'm not suggesting the circular polarizer is the only thing wrong with the screen, or that it is the one sole cause of the blue shift. I'm merely suggesting that my data supports the conclusion that a polarizer can contribute to the blue shift. Always question results, and avoid making full conclusions from a single point of data.
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Called it :p

MrRockliffe said:
Looks like a polarisation problem to me - notice how the closer part of the phone is fine.

Usually, if it's a display issue only, you'd find the whole screen to be off.
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I have some really really good news about grey uniformity - will upload photos in a short while.

Edit - just looking at the photo, I don’t think it shows it clearly but will upload anyway. You’ll just have to trust me when I say I checked it against an S8 and the uniformity looked identical (this is someone who’s returned laptops for non uniform screens).

Carphone Warehouse rep told me it’s a brand new device the Google Rep installed this morning, and a production model rather than pre retail ones other stores have had installed for a while.

So if there are uniformity issues, seems that it may be a production issue rather than every screen.

Which is good and bad I guess.

The colours were also night and day compared to the phone in the EE store. Much more punch and honesty looked so similar to the S8 screen. Had quite a few people in the store wanting to take a look so wasn’t able to get photos of the colours like with the grey background.
 
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V_R said:
As someone who uses Android Pay when ever he can, no.



Google have acknowledged it and are issuing RMA's for it.
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I don't think they've acknowledged it's an issue, have they? It's more people just RMA'ing the phone and getting a replacement with the same problem.

Until Google officially acknowledge the issue and state what should be done, i won't be doing an RMA. It could simply be sorted with a software update.

Like i mentioned, it disappears when the flashlight is on.
 
I had a look at the Pixel 2 non-XL in two EE stores today, and felt that the screens weren't very bright at all. I held my Xperia X next to it which was considerably brighter when both phones were set to max brightness. Do they limit the brightness of the demo models?

In other news, holy crap the XL is big :-o
 
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MrRockliffe said:
Called it :p



I have some really really good news about grey uniformity - will upload photos in a short while.

Edit - just looking at the photo, I don’t think it shows it clearly but will upload anyway. You’ll just have to trust me when I say I checked it against an S8 and the uniformity looked identical (this is someone who’s returned laptops for non uniform screens).

Carphone Warehouse rep told me it’s a brand new device the Google Rep installed this morning, and a production model rather than pre retail ones other stores have had installed for a while.

So if there are uniformity issues, seems that it may be a production issue rather than every screen.

Which is good and bad I guess.

The colours were also night and day compared to the phone in the EE store. Much more punch and honesty looked so similar to the S8 screen. Had quite a few people in the store wanting to take a look so wasn’t able to get photos of the colours like with the grey background.
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You can ask our resident Googler for a PR statement? :p
 
thewanted said:
I had a look at the Pixel 2 non-XL in two EE stores today, and felt that the screens weren't very bright at all. I held my Xperia X next to it which was considerably brighter when both phones were set to max brightness. Do they limit the brightness of the demo models?

In other news, holy crap the XL is big :-o
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Some phones do get locked in demo modes but nothing is limited on the brightness
 
I would have thought if anything demo mode would be set to max brightness.


MrRockliffe said:
I have some really really good news about grey uniformity - will upload photos in a short while.

Edit - just looking at the photo, I don’t think it shows it clearly but will upload anyway. You’ll just have to trust me when I say I checked it against an S8 and the uniformity looked identical (this is someone who’s returned laptops for non uniform screens).

Carphone Warehouse rep told me it’s a brand new device the Google Rep installed this morning, and a production model rather than pre retail ones other stores have had installed for a while.

So if there are uniformity issues, seems that it may be a production issue rather than every screen.

Which is good and bad I guess.

The colours were also night and day compared to the phone in the EE store. Much more punch and honesty looked so similar to the S8 screen. Had quite a few people in the store wanting to take a look so wasn’t able to get photos of the colours like with the grey background.
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Well that is a glimmer of light in this whole scenario.


There's been a few reports of people having their orders of the smaller Pixel delayed by a month.
 
Went in EE and played with both. Looks wise rather nice even compared to my S7 edge. The size was fine on the XL and it felt great in the hand. However I scrutinised the screen and tint issue and it was very prevalent. To the point It put me off completely. I stood it side by side to the S7 Edge and the blue tint was terrible on it and screen far less punchy. Oreo looked an improvement and stock android is what I really want which is a shame.
 
thewanted said:
I had a look at the Pixel 2 non-XL in two EE stores today, and felt that the screens weren't very bright at all. I held my Xperia X next to it which was considerably brighter when both phones were set to max brightness.
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Did you turn off adaptive brightness too? It scored very well on my light meter...

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V_R said:
Well this explains the blue shift.

https://www.reddit.com/r/GooglePixel/comments/77p0m9/pixel_xl_vs_pixel_2_xl_polarization_comparison/
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That's interesting. For me I would go with better vision when wearing sunglasses, as I have said, I don't think the blue tint will bother me at all.
 
AndyCr15 said:
Did you turn off adaptive brightness too? It scored very well on my light meter...
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No, I didn't think about it. I was only in there for 2 minutes because they were bolted to the display so you couldn't pick them up, and they weren't connected to a WiFi network so I couldn't test very much. I might try PC World tomorrow.
 
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