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It's basically a design flaw, but it "works" well enough and tradition dictates that it MUST stay this way as it is what people want. They rather have this weak point than change anything.
 
They fixed it in the 70s (along with several other cost saving measures) but everyone complained and wanted the "traditional" design. 2 or 3 piece neck, added a volute for strength, and used maple. Then went back on it all.
 
I had a more depth look at videos from people doing the 6 day course - it seems a flash coat is applied and it’s not expected a beginner will complete the build (but will know how to find finish).
Tempted to get a set of templates/plans and build the body. I have a router and a bandsaw. i could sort out the carves and then have the final stages such as neck and finishing. The mrs seemed to think about the 2w course next year. I can always get some cheap body wood and experiment in the mean time.

Quite like the idea now of a steamed pearwood body, a flame/burled top with a maple neck and an ebony fretboard.. it is a rabbit hole of outrageous options!
I even found some volume knobs I actually like.

I have an amp to finish first!
 
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NickK said:
I had a more depth look at videos from people doing the 6 day course - it seems a flash coat is applied and it’s not expected a beginner will complete the build (but will know how to find finish).
Tempted to get a set of templates/plans and build the body. I have a router and a bandsaw. i could sort out the carves and then have the final stages such as neck and finishing. The mrs seemed to think about the 2w course next year. I can always get some cheap body wood and experiment in the mean time.

Quite like the idea now of a steamed pearwood body, a flame/burled top with a maple neck and an ebony fretboard.. it is a rabbit hole of outrageous options!
I even found some volume knobs I actually like.

I have an amp to finish first!
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Yeah I'd go for the 2 week if it were me, but for £1700+ and then materials and parts ON TOP I would just buy a nice guitar, or actually two nice(ish) guitars, and save myself the effort.
 
ik9000 said:
Yeah I'd go for the 2 week if it were me, but for £1700+ and then materials and parts ON TOP I would just buy a nice guitar, or actually two nice(ish) guitars, and save myself the effort.
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Hmm i think from what I have read is that you get dried wood from their stocks, and other bits such as pickups but in the end I suspect there’s the free base stuff and then priced premium on top. Not sure. However it’s the build experience that I’m interested in.. but I get the point you could get a guitar for the cost of good wood alone.
 
posting a drum video in the guitar thread....where else!

I've never played drums other than trying to keep a beat with high hat/snare so this guys stuff is 'dope' to me, read one comment that said 'it's like playing the doorbell for him'

these can't be 'playthrough' (audio isn't the actual videos audio) tracks like you get on a lot of guitar videos...surely!

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Raymond Lin said:
It's basically a design flaw, but it "works" well enough and tradition dictates that it MUST stay this way as it is what people want. They rather have this weak point than change anything.
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It’s funny that as far as the guitar nerd is concerned Gibson basically got every guitar design perfect first time and it is impossible to improve on them even now all these years later! I’m not sure fender fans are quite as bad but I’m sure a few will be! I also enjoy how stuff that used to be dismissed as modern and horrible a few years ago is now sold as Vintage/good wood era/etc
 
a1ex2001 said:
It’s funny that as far as the guitar nerd is concerned Gibson basically got every guitar design perfect first time and it is impossible to improve on them even now all these years later! I’m not sure fender fans are quite as bad but I’m sure a few will be! I also enjoy how stuff that used to be dismissed as modern and horrible a few years ago is now sold as Vintage/good wood era/etc
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woods in particular. And relicing new guitars?! FFS am I the only one who hates tatty looks and gets annoyed if I get a ding?
 
I used to hate relic....but last few years i did a 180 and think they look kinda cool, as opposed to stupid...why would you want to do that to a new guitar? The part about getting annoyed getting a ding...don't have to worry about it!

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Moving house and so need guitar cases for each guitar rather than just a selection... I have 2 odd-shaped guitars so bought a second hand classical case to see if I can make it fit.

Just need to get some dense foam to pack out the body area, these are slim bodied so "floating" in the space ATM.




Quite pleased, think I'll look for another similar case on eBay!
 
ik9000 said:
woods in particular. And relicing new guitars?! FFS am I the only one who hates tatty looks and gets annoyed if I get a ding?
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The woods thing I find hilarious and I'd love to see the A/B/X test where people can tell if it is the good type of mahogany or not! I'm totally the other way on relics mainly because if you ding a relic it doesn't matter! I've been considering buying a nice Les Paul for a couple of years now and have basically decided I need to buy one which has had a few bashes as otherwise it will live in it's case as I will be too scared of bashing it and devaluing it! I actually think dinging a guitar is a good moment in it's life as from that moment on you can just relax and enjoy it!
 
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I actually think dinging a guitar is a good moment in it's life as from that moment on you can just relax and enjoy it!
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Honestly when I was a guitar repairer we used to consider having a "First ding" service. Bring us your guitar, we'll carefully give it a little blemish without wrecking it, so you can relax and enjoy the thing!

I have a friend who bought a new touring motorcycle and claims to have kicked it over the day he got it, because he knew he'd drop it at some point. Not sure I believe him :D
 
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The woods thing I find hilarious and I'd love to see the A/B/X test where people can tell if it is the good type of mahogany or not! I'm totally the other way on relics mainly because if you ding a relic it doesn't matter! I've been considering buying a nice Les Paul for a couple of years now and have basically decided I need to buy one which has had a few bashes as otherwise it will live in it's case as I will be too scared of bashing it and devaluing it! I actually think dinging a guitar is a good moment in it's life as from that moment on you can just relax and enjoy it!
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The 1st day I got my brand new, PRS Custom 24, 10-top, I was being super careful, when lifting it I hold it high so not knock against anything on table etc....but I lifted it TOO high and hight the lampshade in the ceiling...The lampshade is made of glass, frosted..so it is matt...like sandpaper, glass sandpaper.

Yup, 1st day, i made a little scratch on the tip of the headstock on my brand new PRS.

As for wood difference...so there is this Guitar Store call Emerald City Guitar in the US, I think it's in Oregon. They have a YouTube Channel, they sell mostly used guitars, vintage guitars, like 50's 60's era Gibson, Fender, in 5 to 6 figures.

One video they put out, they had a 50's Fender Strat, but it was made in Korina instead of Ash. Now, Korina in Strat is rare, so in an early Strat, it can be real collectible to some collectors. And in the video the demo guy said something like "This is one of the very few, rare Strat made in Korina, if it weren't for this little ding, scratch of paint on the back that we are able to see the bare wood, we would have never been able to tell."

Now I know he is trying to sell the guitar to suggest this happy accident allow the discovery of this rare example, but it also screams to me that the wood made no difference at all....funny that the original video got taken down, and then reuploaded as that sentence is no longer there now. I suspect the comments section got kinda funny and not what they were looking for.
 
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Acoustically tone wood matters. I have a cedarwood acoustic rather than the normal spruce. Darker tone and works nicely with finger picking (just don’t try strumming it).

Electric - I think the pickup and strings probably make more of an impact. However I can see logically how wood could cause the string to behave differently and that the wood the pickup sits in also vibrates comes through if the string sits still. However it’s probably very small compared to the string contribution itself.
 
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Acoustically tone wood matters. I have a cedarwood acoustic rather than the normal spruce. Darker tone and works nicely with finger picking (just don’t try strumming it).

Electric - I think the pickup and strings probably make more of an impact. However I can see logically how wood could cause the string to behave differently and that the wood the pickup sits in also vibrates comes through if the string sits still. However it’s probably very small compared to the string contribution itself.
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Totally agree especially with the acoustic side of the argument where the wood literally is the tone on the electric side I'd much rather listen to someone play a cheap plywood guitar through some great pickups and top end amps then listen to a 50's les paul with some ali express $2 pickups going through a cheapo sound stage.
 
Thinking of a through neck.. if you’re going to build a guitar from template/plans… make a through neck with PRS shape :D then pray the fingerboard aligns :)
 
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