***The Official HTC One Thread***

Nexus18 said:
Wait for these new batches and software update to fix the problems then judge the photo quality :p Have a look through the thread on XDA, some great photos in there.
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Yes it's certainly worth being patient for, its a great phone overall and I really enjoyed having a mess around with one.
 
[TW]Fox;24047032 said:
Interesting option, thanks for taking the time to post that.

For me, Tethering is essential - I am increasingly frustrated with the avenue the industry is going down for a feature as useful as this. All they need to do is limit tethering to an amount of data thats not useful for the abusers who use it instead of a home internet connection, but no, they just blanket ban it for everyone despite increasingly larger sales of wifi tablets etc which are effectively useless when travelling without Tethering.

I use my phone with my Laptop and my Tablet on trains and in hotel rooms - I use barely 200mb of data a month this way. Just basic web browsing, no streaming, no downloading, and yet find 95% of deals are just not open to me now because of the draconian restrictions being applied.

I have used a mobile phone in conjunction with some other mobile device for internet access on trains etc since 2000 with a Nokia 7110 and a Psion 5mx. I find it incredible that as tech advances my opportunities to do this are becoming less rather than more!

As for the HTC One I cannot see the point in pretty much any of the contract deals. Why are people bothering? It seems that just buying the handset SIM free and using a SIM only deal beats the contracts every time.

I pay £12 a month for Unlimited Data, Unlimited Texts and 150 minutes with Virgin. Buying the phone outright works out at 20 quid a month over 24 months so £32 a month, comparable with the very best contract deals but with ultimate flexibility.
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I'm paying £560 for 18 months and an HTC One.... Admittedly "only" 600mins Unlimited texts and 1GB of data but I don't use more data than that (even though I tether as well). Less than your sim only.
 
I thought it was a good deal when I found the One for my other half at £139 and £43/month for 12 months. Vodafone included the official HTC One case which was a nice surprise. Upgrading 75 days early is an option too.
 
Nexus18 said:
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someone is annoyed ;) yeah totally.. 13 sounds cool! evil and stuff get me bro? :)

it sounds dumb when you say "oh yaa buh wurked at kodak init bruv that means he knows stuff ye?"

this is what sounds dumb :) very important you say?! what do you care bigger pixels that you can't see or better picture quality? i personally only care what the tech behind something is because it interests me not because i think its cool or some turd, if 920 manages to produce better pictures thats all i flipping care about! :) and it does.

won't be as good? it is a released phone, htc advertise it with those pictures so they believe it is meant to be like that, the awesome kodak guy clearly approved of them too..

*cares about experts* the number of times they were wrong makes me lough ;) i dont care if the HW is better(which is not its just different) so now its a problem with hardware?

it wont be as good as s4 and other top end phones :) i spoke with a lot of people about one and explain the camera etc etc and everyone agrees that 4mpx resolution is not enough..

you really do sound like a well disguised htc fanboy.. you really do have some love for the brand and it looks like you believe everything some kodak guy says.. its not like he's trying to prove that the tech he pushed works ;)
 
Well 4mp is good enough for me. I just take photos for things like facebook, not billboards. Those extra pixels provide me absolutely nothing; I would much rather have superior low light quality, which hopefully once the issues are sorted it will provide.
 
Off the top of my head, megapixels are only good for two things really - printing decent sized images (lets say above 7x10") and cropping images that you've composed wrong and intend to use for something other than social media sites.

Apart from the marketing departments and what I suspect is tiny niche market, who actually benefits from the megapixel race?
 
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this_is_gav said:
Megapixels are only good for two things really - printing decent sized images (lets say above 7x10") and cropping images that you've composed wrong and intend to use for something other than social media sites.

Apart from the marketing departments, who actually benefits from the megapixel race?
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I would rather have a decent 8MP of 13MP image that I have the option to play or crop with, than a similar quality 4MP image which leaves me no option for playing or cropping. The megapixel race only becomes "irrelevant" at around 8MP or so for most people in terms of what they will potentially do with an image, and below that it becomes a clear limitation nowadays. So, your "megapixels race" comment isn't even relevant to in this instance imo.

I appreciate Nexus18's (slightly noobie, sorry) efforts to defend the phone, but the point is that the HTC One camera is not noticeably better than the SGS III or SGS IV's, and provides way less resolution.

Case closed imo.
 
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Just received my HTC One. It is sensational and what I've always desired. I think it could be the one.

Seriously though, what a phone! It feels fantastic, screen is nothing short of brilliant and it is as fast as you like. I love it. Never thought I'd go back to HTC after I got my Galaxy S2. Samsung were producing awesome phones for a fraction of the price of Apple, but HTC seemed to be churning out a lot of phones which no one knew the point of. There were just too many, but there was no flagship that people actually knew about.

I hope HTC keep this as their flagship until at least December/January before announcing another phone which rivals it. And for God sake HTC - get some marketing done on this phone! If only people knew what it was about, I have no doubt it would pull the rug from under Samsung's feet.
 
Richdog said:
I would rather have a decent 8MP of 13MP image that I have the option to play or crop with, than a similar quality 4MP image which leaves me no option for playing or cropping. The megapixel race only becomes "irrelevant" at around 8MP or so for most people in terms of what they will potentially do with an image, and below that it becomes a clear limitation nowadays. So, your "megapixels race" comment isn't even relevant to in this instance imo.

I appreciate Nexus18's (slightly noobie, sorry) efforts to defend the phone, but the point is that the HTC One camera is not noticeably better than the SGS III or SGS IV's, and provides way less resolution.

Case closed imo.
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i agree with you :) 8mpx as minimum for me, i dont really care about 13 or w/e but 8 and above is perfect :) the number of times i have cropped my pictures is crazy. tbh i would say 90% of my pics are cropped.
 
Richdog said:
I would rather have a decent 8MP of 13MP image that I have the option to play or crop with, than a similar quality 4MP image which leaves me no option for playing or cropping. The megapixel race only becomes "irrelevant" at around 8MP or so for most people in terms of what they will potentially do with an image, and below that it becomes a clear limitation nowadays. So, your "megapixels race" comment isn't even relevant to in this instance imo.
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What do you do with your images which benefit from cropping? I'm not questioning you (well, I am), but I'm just genuinely curious.

I've got a 12mp DSLR and I could use a few more pixels on that when I'm shooting portraits (usually middle school kids, so I've not always got the time or opportunity to compose perfectly when I'm using a tripod).
 
grudas said:
someone is annoyed ;) yeah totally.. 13 sounds cool! evil and stuff get me bro? :)

it sounds dumb when you say "oh yaa buh wurked at kodak init bruv that means he knows stuff ye?"

this is what sounds dumb :) very important you say?! what do you care bigger pixels that you can't see or better picture quality? i personally only care what the tech behind something is because it interests me not because i think its cool or some turd, if 920 manages to produce better pictures thats all i flipping care about! :) and it does.

won't be as good? it is a released phone, htc advertise it with those pictures so they believe it is meant to be like that, the awesome kodak guy clearly approved of them too..

*cares about experts* the number of times they were wrong makes me lough ;) i dont care if the HW is better(which is not its just different) so now its a problem with hardware?

it wont be as good as s4 and other top end phones :) i spoke with a lot of people about one and explain the camera etc etc and everyone agrees that 4mpx resolution is not enough..

you really do sound like a well disguised htc fanboy.. you really do have some love for the brand and it looks like you believe everything some kodak guy says.. its not like he's trying to prove that the tech he pushed works ;)
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Not annoyed at all, but going by that post it appears that you are "bro".

How does it sound dumb? They have hired someone who will actually have good experience with proper digital cameras and what is and isn't important, do you really think kodak/HTC will hire someone who hasn't got a clue to be in charge of the camera area?

Emm, did you read that article on pixel size? Clearly it is very important and by the looks/sounds of it, far more important than the number of MPs.

Hmm, so yes all those articles that were written by expert photographers, phone/hardware experts i.e. Brian Klug are clearly wrong :rolleyes: Go back and read everything again, the only advantage of the GS 4 hardware is the MP count, everything else on the one is better, do I need to link to Brian Klug's tweet saying the same thing again? (who reviews every top end phone for a top end review site who is also a photographer)

Do these people who say 4MP isn't enough, have monitors with a res. of 30" monitor displays, print these photos out on large paper, zoom in really close for every photo?

I like HTC and much prefer them to Samsung, but no fanboy of any company. Who is the one who always seem to find something negative to say about a hTc device.... oh that is right, you. You clearly don't like the one because no SD, only 4MP amongst many other reasons so why even bother coming into this thread if you aren't going to have any intentions of buying the device? Stick to the GS 4 or xperia Z thread as you clearly want them instead.

Again you seem to be forgetting that there are problems which have been confirmed by some reviewers, HTC and other users and I have linked to the impact that these problems can have even posted photos by the one demonstrating how much the photo quality will improve once the ISO problem is sorted out.

But nope, you seem to just ignore everything and still think that you are right despite not posting any articles/evidence to back your points up :rolleyes:

CBA going over everything again with you as I have tried to explain everything and backed it up with articles but it doesn't matter as you clearly don't like HTC, always find something to moan about. To put it simply, it is like talking to a brick wall.

I appreciate Nexus18's (slightly noobie, sorry) efforts to defend the phone, but the point is that the HTC One camera is not noticeably better than the SGS III or SGS IV's, and provides way less resolution.
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"Noobie" in what way? At least when I post something, I have a ton of evidence by experts in the photography/phone department to back up what I say/think.

Yes I agree it isn't noticeably better especially in bright conditions, however, as I have said many times, wait till the problems are sorted out and then judge.
 
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your evidence are reviews ffs, i see 90% of them with turdy pictures :) you're really looking funny here! and jeez i want ONE a lot.. but i need it to be a good phone so hey ho.. i am just as entitled to an opinion as you are :)
 
i get the idea behind the camera and if it was really a great bit of tech/software i could live with it.. but now its not living up to the hype.. sorry its worse than the camera on ONE S ffs.
 
grudas said:
your evidence are reviews ffs, i see 90% of them with turdy pictures :) you're really looking funny here! and jeez i want ONE a lot.. but i need it to be a good phone so hey ho.. i am just as entitled to an opinion as you are :)
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Ehh, hardly any of the links are reviews, they are all mostly links to photography articles on the aspects of the camera hardware i.e the megapixel number, pixel size etc. by people who do actually know their stuff unlike the majority of reviewers who aren't "experts" in the camera/photography department.

What have you posted to prove that the htc one won't get any better or that it doesn't have any problems at all and the reason that some photos are poor is simply due to the MP number/hardware design? Oh that is right, nothing because there isn't anything.

Hmm think you got that the wrong way ;) You obviously don't have a clue, don't go by what I say, go by all the expert photographers and by people who know far more than what you ever could i.e. Brian Klug :)

Whos opinions/knowledge should we go by?

- Expert photographers/phone reviewer who have proved that they know their stuff through their work/reputation

or

- grudas

tough decision.......
 
It's a shame so many people seem to be put off by the camera on the One as it's a truey brilliant phone - it even makes calls and sends texts perfectly well too!

I can see the arguement though as with more and more people having a phone on them all the time it needs to be capable of giving you good pictures whatever the conditions - I've yet to properly test mine in low light (in the pub for instance) but will report back with my opinions once I have!
 
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