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It probably will be for awhile. Many of apples new services are US only for the first year. Just look for long it took us to get the basic Apple Pay and we still don’t have Apple Card or cash.
 
It probably will be for awhile. Many of apples new services are US only for the first year. Just look for long it took us to get the basic Apple Pay and we still don’t have Apple Card or cash.
Agreed, there appears to be some infrastructure setup required for the satellite functionality for the hubs that contact emergency services on your behalf.
 
What did you honestly expect? This is the summary of the conversation.

Journalist: Apple, please use your biggest competitors technology.
Apple: WTF you on mate?
RCS is an open standard, it would be like Apple releasing the initial iPhone without MMS and then someone saying it's Nokia technology. Or calling USB-C Samsung technology.
 
RCS is an open standard, it would be like Apple releasing the initial iPhone without MMS and then someone saying it's Nokia technology. Or calling USB-C Samsung technology.
It may be an open standard but it’s still Google’s open standard which they are pushing on the industry and is trying to compete with one of Apples biggest moats in the USA.

I don’t think the first iPhone had MMS but yeh, back then they didn’t have their own alternative, it’s not the same.

USB-C isn’t a Samsung technology, USB is co-developed by a load of companies. Apple are actually a part of the USB Forum, again, it’s not the same.

To be clear, I’m not defending apples position here, I’m merely putting across the obvious position they would take. Apple is going to Apple at the end of the day unless forced to otherwise by their customers or a regulator, normally the latter.
 
Is RCS even fully supported by UK networks or does it all go via the Google cludge?
Vodafone and O2 do. But if iPhones supported it instead of their own proprietary messaging system then no doubt all the others would come onboard as well. It reminds me of all the wasted years that Apple didn't support NFC - mobile payments could have been a common thing 10 years ago if they had.
 
It may be an open standard but it’s still Google’s open standard which they are pushing on the industry and is trying to compete with one of Apples biggest moats in the USA.

I don’t think the first iPhone had MMS but yeh, back then they didn’t have their own alternative, it’s not the same.

USB-C isn’t a Samsung technology, USB is co-developed by a load of companies. Apple are actually a part of the USB Forum, again, it’s not the same.

To be clear, I’m not defending apples position here, I’m merely putting across the obvious position they would take. Apple is going to Apple at the end of the day unless forced to otherwise by their customers or a regulator, normally the latter.
RCS (like SMS, MMS etc.) is an open standard created by the GSMA, not Google. And with regards to USB-C, that's exactly what I'm saying! It's an open standard too, and not created by one company.
 
Isn’t the obvious apple stance on both of those is that they built an ecosystem which they monetise around both of those things before those other standards existed. Particularly lightning which is over a decade old at this point, and I don’t think the first USB-C standard was even published until 2014 let alone implemented. iMessage is a moat, we know it, they know it. Green bubble shame is a thing in certain circles.

You can see why they wouldn’t want to drop them when they make them a lot of wonga where the open standard wouldn’t. That’s the crux of it.
 
The whole SIM tray removal for certain markets does seem a little odd. I don’t travel much but remember rocking up at airports, going to the nearest phone place in the airport and buying a local SIM for the duration.

We can still do this as we’ll still have the tray but this is going to alienate a lot of US customers. I wonder how long it’ll be before it becomes standard for all their markets.
 
The whole SIM tray removal for certain markets does seem a little odd. I don’t travel much but remember rocking up at airports, going to the nearest phone place in the airport and buying a local SIM for the duration.

We can still do this as we’ll still have the tray but this is going to alienate a lot of US customers. I wonder how long it’ll be before it becomes standard for all their markets.
The ideal is to be able to open the sim settings on your phone, pick a network, see their plans, and sign up immediately.
 
The whole SIM tray removal for certain markets does seem a little odd. I don’t travel much but remember rocking up at airports, going to the nearest phone place in the airport and buying a local SIM for the duration.

We can still do this as we’ll still have the tray but this is going to alienate a lot of US customers. I wonder how long it’ll be before it becomes standard for all their markets.
To be fair, I was looking for a sim for Europe recently (Brexit benefits init) and the process was super easy.

Search online for the plan, buy it, they send you a QR code, you can it and the sim is installed. Job jobbed.

P.S. airport sims are a rip off. You are better off venturing into town to get one.
 
RCS is an open standard, it would be like Apple releasing the initial iPhone without MMS and then someone saying it's Nokia technology. Or calling USB-C Samsung technology.

Whether it's an open standard or not is irrelevant, it's too late. The world has already standardised on iMessage between iPhone users and WhatsApp for everyone else.

Apple had the foresight to build their own messaging app around SMS and make the two work seamlessly, so iMessage rich messaging would automatically be used between iPhones but it would fall back to SMS for other stuff, thus obviating the whole "are you both using the same messaging app" issues. This quickly became the iPhone's killer feature.

The world is quite happy with the iMessage/WhatsApp combination these days. RCS is too little, too late and a complete waste of time. Why on earth would Apple ditch one of their biggest selling points (particularly in the US where apparently the 'blue bubbles' are a major status thing) to support an open standard which their competitors could use?
 
I had planned to get a 14 Pro Max but I think I'll just stick with my 12 Pro Max for now.

Same, the extra cost has made me consider it. Nothing wrong with my 12 Pro Max, other than battery life which seems to have gotten progressively worse this year.

Struggles to get me through a whole day these days. Generally just use for web, Spotify and YouTube.
 
Not worth me upgrading from a 13 Pro, despite the trade in offer bringing the cost down to ~£650 for a 256gb 14 Pro.
 
Pro Max for me and bog standard one for the wife. Pre order pre order made and just need to confirm tomorrow. I’m upgrading from a 12 Pro Max whilst the wife is upgrading from an 11. Not sure my upgrade will be noticeable but I’ll pass my “old” phone to The Teenager and everyone will be happy…
 
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