***The Official LG Nexus 4 Thread***
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It was in reference to this:
Where you appeared to imply that vanilla Android phones are less feature complete then manufacturer phones with all the "crap" in.
Not many devs specific single devices, the nearest example I can think of offhand is Sky Go which is just a pain in general.
The reason phones like the S3 suffer less from app compatibility after updates is that they generally come out a few months (at least) after the Nexus devices and this is after they have been extensively tested by not only the vendor but operators as well. Then you usually have 'leaks' of Samsung firmware so people start reporting issues long before it makes it to an actual OTA or Kies update.
Sorted, my current card is still on there.
Am I being crazy (or blind) thinking there should be a link to that from the Play store site?!?!?!
rp2000
Actually the Gs 3 seems to have more problems with apps than any other phone especially when it first came out, always read on the "what's new" tab that there is some fix for the GS 3 (read about people having force closes etc.) and certain apps aren't compatible with the GS 3 either, same goes for sense powered devices etc. although it doesn't seem to be as bad. I think the exynos chipset plays a big part in this as apparently it is terrible to work with/develop for as even the CM team are mouthing of about it.
Apps are mainly developed for stock android (pretty much every app developer uses a nexus device and this is their main testing device for the apps as well as maybe a few other phones running different hardware and android skins) and there don't seem to be any problems with the apps on nexus devices, unless you get a brand new android update where the app has to be updated in order to work with the newer version of android.
Not quite true, the custom skins have far more features etc. included, whether it be a separate feature or included in the stock apps i.e. all of Samsung smart stay features, HTC's social integration/widgets etc. I find stock android to not have enough features and to pale in comparison when it comes to certain things.
The stock apps of sense/touchwiz will usually have all the features of stock android but more i.e. just compare the camera, calendar, gallery, SMS, mail apps etc.
Plus, some people actually like the custom skins, the only thing I like about stock android is the theme/colour scheme, gets updates faster and that is it, the stock apps are crap (IMO) compared to sense/touchwiz stock apps. I love sense V4 and sense V4+ is looking even better. Touchwiz is nice as well but the colour scheme for it is awful and it doesn't have the same unified feel as sense or stock android, not to mention the apps look very disorganised and poorly "put together".
Yup the CPU/GPU, RAM are the best there is and the screen is supposedly as good as the iphone 5 and one X, if not better.
Although the camera seems to pale in comparison to the one X/S and GS 3/note II as well as the audio.
Can't judge battery yet till people get theirs hand on it.
Still taking everything I hear about the nexus with a huge pinch of salt though till I see some user reviews and gsmarena as well as anandtech's review (with the latest software)
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As per my last post, I think Im gonna give this a miss, Im not the target market for this phone after what everyones said, just as it seems that Im definitely not the target market for the OS. I just wanted a friendly 'all-encompassing' introduction into Android, Im just not interested or have the time to waste to deal with a 'mobile Linux' where I need to be a power user to get the real benefits of open source.Ps3udo when the Nexus 4 is released 99.9% of the apps will work for it, when Android is updated to 4.3 99.9% of the apps will work with that too, on day one. Android doesn't work how you think it works an update to the OS does not render all the apps in need of an update to begin working again.
It's pointless going round in circles you will never be able to have an informed opinion till you try it, so either try Android on the N4 for a few weeks and see how you get on, or just stick with IOS. There's not really a whole lot more to explain to you.
No thats whats I meant, crap as in all the bloat that isnt necessary as the underlying way Google have set out the OS is fine/more than fine.
Thanks for the effort in replying though all...
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I agree when the handset first comes out, but for subsequent updates it's far easier for a developer as firmware is always leaked on Samfirmware so you get users reporting issues long before they make it to an OTA or Kies update. You've also got the benefit of a newer version of Android already being out on Nexus devices for a good few months before they hit more consumer based devices.
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As per my last post, I think Im gonna give this a miss, Im not the target market for this phone after what everyones said, just as it seems that Im definitely not the target market for the OS. I just wanted a friendly 'all-encompassing' introduction into Android, Im just not interested or have the time to waste to deal with a 'mobile Linux' where I need to be a power user to get the real benefits of open source.
ps3ud0
tbh, Android is just as good as iOS in terms of an out of the box experience. I was up and using my SGS2 within an hour.
The app incompatibilities you mention occur on iOS as well. I imagine getting a Nexus device is (at worse) like loading iOS6 on your iPhone, before it is released (like developers) and having some apps not work. I notice whenever there is a new iOS loads of apps get updated to work properly with it. Furthermore, I see just as many comments in iTunes reviews that say "does not load", "crashes my iPhone 3", "instability" etc as I do on Play store.
The only apps that have problems on Android (broadly speaking) is DRM/Video apps, where some apps use some sort of CPU specific security so it doesn't work with all CPUs (initially). Like SKYGo, HULU and a few others.
If anything, getting a Nexus device is probably guaranteeing you the longest support cycle (updates) and most compatibility (maybe wait a month for all 3rd party apps to upgrade to 4.2 1st) ?
rp2000
Sorry, not quoting but on my phone now.
I don't think the Nexus 4 is the device Google hope will bring people over to android. How many Nexus 4 adverts have you seen on TV considering its due out tomorrow?
I think they hope devs will get one and make more and better apps. Also, its a device they can dish out to people/devs as they wish.
When they release one phone a year, I guess it can be Google's flagship but not Androids.
I don't think the Nexus 4 is the device Google hope will bring people over to android. How many Nexus 4 adverts have you seen on TV considering its due out tomorrow?
I think they hope devs will get one and make more and better apps. Also, its a device they can dish out to people/devs as they wish.
When they release one phone a year, I guess it can be Google's flagship but not Androids.
Yup - the Nexus is for the DEV's and people in the know...everyone else will be like WTH is a Nexus
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Yup - the Nexus is for the DEV's and people in the know...everyone will be like WTH is a Nexus
Which suits me, as i might actually be able to order one and get it without having the wait weeks for it to arrive.
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I think it's the reverse actually. I think this is Android's flagship. This is the phone that Google thinks best represents the Android experience in 2012 (and looking forwards) Samsung and the like may have their own flagships but it's very much a Samsung flagship rather than an Andoid flagship, they tinker with things and add their own features to make it a Samsung product.
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Yup, as kona said this phone is for the people in the know and devs.
Shame that google don't market their nexus phones as well as Samsung and Apple especially when they are selling it for this sort of price!
I hope they do push it, but just wait a few more days till the die-hards have got their orders in (me included)
I hope they do push it, but just wait a few more days till the die-hards have got their orders in (me included)
That actually wouldn't be a bad idea. Google could have thousands of beta testers that understand bleeding edge software will need niggles patched out.
Fix them then go megaadverts.
People refer to Nexus phones having "Vanilla" android & forget that "Vanilla" is the cheapest flavour from the shops...........
As said above, it's a reference platform which allows people to add their own apps etc , not the so-called "Bloat" that Samsung / HTC etc add.
Android has problems (compared to IOS) because there is such a rich variation of platforms. After all, how many different screen resolutions / buttons does IOS have to cater for compared to Android ?
As said above, it's a reference platform which allows people to add their own apps etc , not the so-called "Bloat" that Samsung / HTC etc add.
Android has problems (compared to IOS) because there is such a rich variation of platforms. After all, how many different screen resolutions / buttons does IOS have to cater for compared to Android ?
there used to be when it was the market, then they changed it about and made the wallet section, in preparation for there paypal style system (person2person payment) and the google credit card
