** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **

[tbh]

I think the big Pascal gaming chip will be at the end of Q2 at the earliest

Now we play the waiting game... ahh the waiting game sucks, let's play Hungry Hungry Hippos!

 

[P.B]

Can't wait for these cards do you think we'll manage 2000mhz on 16nm

 

[Boomstick777]

Can't wait for these cards do you think we'll manage 2000mhz on 16nm

Read somewhere that the smaller you go, beyond 28nm, the harder it will be to dissipate the heat from within the GPU core? No idea if this is true.

So in that scenario clock speeds may not improve massively? Extra cores, transistors etc will make more huge performance increase. So performance increase from lot's more cores / transistors, HBM 2.0. But clock speeds not increasing due to complexity of design on a die shrink.

Will just be glad when these finally launch. At the point now where I hate 28nm and blame it for stagnating the GPU industry. It really needs to go lol

 

[bru]

I wouldn't be surprised if clock speeds on the first round of Pascal chip will be lower than Maxwell, probably under the 1GHz mark.

 

[Orangey]

There's been some preliminary work that has already been done on cooling 3D stacks. Presumably that will come in handy as and when.

 

[Boomstick777]

NVIDIA Pascal GPU Will Be Manufactured on TSMC 16nm FF Node – Flagship Single Chip Card To Feature 16 GB HBM2 VRAM

Read more: http://wccftech.com/nvidia-pascal-g...p-card-feature-16-gb-hbm2-vram/#ixzz3luIFydpH

NVIDIA’s upcoming Pascal GPU has been confirmed by sources to be manufactured on the TSMC 16nm FinFET node as Samsung has failed to win the contract for the latest GPU. The NVIDIA Pascal GPU is the latest NVIDIA Compute oriented graphics architecture which will be launching in 2016 and feature new technologies such as HBM2, NVLINK and Mixed Precision support.

TSMC Wins Contract To Manufacturer Next Generation NVIDIA Pascal GPU

There’s no specific reason given for NVIDIA choosing TSMC over Samsung and there were reports that NVIDIA would use both semiconductor companies to mass produce Pascal GPUs but at the end of the day, NVIDIA had to choose TSMC and their 16nm FinFET node even though Samsung already has 14nm FinFET in production as was demonstrated by Apple with their A9 SOC demonstrated just a few weeks back.

It was revealed a few weeks ago that NVIDIA’s Pascal GP100 chip has already been taped out on TSMC’s 16nm FinFET process, last month. This means that we can see a launch of these chips as early as Q2 2016. Doubling of the transistor density would put Pascal to somewhere around 16-17 Billion transistors since the Maxwell GPUs already feature 8 Billion transistors on the flagship GM200 GPU core.

NVIDIA has their GTC conference being held in Japan on 18th September 2015 and have already released some material in regards to the new announcements that will be made at the graphics focused event. While not much in details in regards to specific architecture specifications or features, the presentation does show some new details about the NVIDIA Pascal GPU.

 

[Orangey]

I didn't know GTC was twice a year.

 

[Boomstick777]

I didn't know GTC was twice a year.

Nvidia seem to do lot's of conf.. http://on-demand-gtc.gputechconf.com/gtcnew/on-demand-gtc.php

http://on-demand-gtc.gputechconf.co...ssionYear=2015&sessionFormat=&submit=&select=

The upcoming one.

GPU Technology Conference Japan 2015
September 18, 2015
Toranomon Hills Forum
Tokyo, Japan


http://www.nvidia.com/page/events.html

Doubt we'll get confirmed spec or anything but WFFCTech seem to think something might be revealed, launch window maybe, some teasers?

 

[Boomstick777]

 

[Kaapstad]

I hate these cobbled together tables as they are all speculation and no real information.

Still it gives people something to argue about.

 

[ratters]

I hate these cobbled together tables as they are all speculation and no real information.

Still it gives people something to argue about.

Yeh i like these cobbled together tables !

 

[Lightnix]

I feel like if you get an AMD Greenland chip you must play call of duty. hahah hah get it it's funny because of the cod wars guys

 

[Orangey]

Typical WCCF "story":

1% new info
99% rehash padding

 

[bru]

So the only thing that I have taken from that article, is that it sounds like NVidia are happy with the Pascal chip that taped out and TSMC can start production. So in about 6 months we will have our first new Pascal based card.

 

[D.P.]

So the only thing that I have taken from that article, is that it sounds like NVidia are happy with the Pascal chip that taped out and TSMC can start production. So in about 6 months we will have our first new Pascal based card.

Assuming there is enough HBM2 and interposers around. Another delay could be if yields are low and they have to give most supply to Tesla parts, then there could also be a delay.

A lot also depends on AMD, if AMD keep hemorrhaging market share then Nvidia will probably wait a bit to clear Maxwell stock, improve drivers and have plenty of Pascal cards for a hard launch. Hopefully AMD sales pickup and they can sort something out with the Fiji cards so Nvidia starts loosing sales, then Nvidia will push for an earlier launch, even if poor stock.

 

[Seanspeed]

Assuming there is enough HBM2 and interposers around. Another delay could be if yields are low and they have to give most supply to Tesla parts, then there could also be a delay.

A lot also depends on AMD, if AMD keep hemorrhaging market share then Nvidia will probably wait a bit to clear Maxwell stock, improve drivers and have plenty of Pascal cards for a hard launch. Hopefully AMD sales pickup and they can sort something out with the Fiji cards so Nvidia starts loosing sales, then Nvidia will push for an earlier launch, even if poor stock.

HBM2 isn't likely to be available til Q2.

AMD apparently also has priority on its availability, so it's entirely possible the first enthusiast 14/16nm cards will be from them regardless. Nvidia wont want to wait around, but they might not have a choice.

 

[layte]

HBM2 isn't likely to be available til Q2.

AMD apparently also has priority on its availability, so it's entirely possible the first enthusiast 14/16nm cards will be from them regardless. Nvidia wont want to wait around, but they might not have a choice.

Maybe with Hynix, but given it's a JEDEC standard (http://www.jedec.org/standards-documents/results/jesd235) Nvidia are free to purchase from any vendor. I'd be shocked if they do not already have iron clad supplier contracts in place. I'd guess Samsung http://www.eteknix.com/samsung-to-start-mass-production-of-hbm2-in-2016/

 

[Seanspeed]

Maybe with Hynix, but given it's a JEDEC standard (http://www.jedec.org/standards-documents/results/jesd235) Nvidia are free to purchase from any vendor. I'd be shocked if they do not already have iron clad supplier contracts in place. I'd guess Samsung http://www.eteknix.com/samsung-to-start-mass-production-of-hbm2-in-2016/

True, though it depends on who gets HBM2 production-ready the fastest.

 

[Gregster]

I expect come June at the latest to have Pascal on shelves.

 

[TwsT]

1% hehehehehehe

You have to love things like that.

You could say that we are all in a 1% bracket, because we are the enthusiasts who love to game and talk about the hardware enough to come online to a forum and post about it.

And don't forget that 87.343% of statistics are made up anyway.

we are all in the 1% bracket


steam survey suggests less than 3% game above 1080p given a decent sample size we can only assume it's accurate.

Russia sells a lot more 750ti's than the UK the UK sells a lot more 970's