Caporegime
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1070 for £300? Clocked beating a 980 Ti? yay!
Yup, to be expected tbh (a stock 1080 to be level or beat a 980Ti and a clocked 1070 to be level with a stock 1080)
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** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **
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Yup, to be expected tbh (a stock 1080 to be level or beat a 980Ti and a clocked 1070 to be level with a stock 1080)
I wouldn't be at all surprised if they led with the titan'esque card giving us a glimpse of the full potential of Pascal with the GP104 variant (ala 970/80) to follow shortly afterward, leaving a decent few months till the GP100ti.
This would make a lot of sense if AMD are going to be slightly latter with the initial releases and it would even work if AMD are ready in a similar timeframe.
This would make a lot of sense if AMD are going to be slightly latter with the initial releases and it would even work if AMD are ready in a similar timeframe.
Caporegime
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Wasn't the 970 £300 on release? In that case I'd say yes!
Geforce P1 = Titan
P2 = x80Ti
P3 = x80
P4 = x70
P5+ = x60Ti
P6 = x60
Etc
Then it'd be V1 for Volta series. That'd be my idea at least.
Another idea:
Geforce Elite = Titan
501 = x80Ti
505 = x80
507 = x70
515 = x60Ti
525 = x60
551 = x50Ti
575 = x50
£250
But £300 would still be good if it outperforms a 980Ti.
Soldato
I don't expect the 1070 *or whatever it's called* to surpass a 980 Ti, On par with a 980 or just behind a 980 Ti yes IMO.
Having they been bigging up Pascal to be 10x faster? Although that was for CUDA iirc.
The actual gaming performance was supposed to be 2x.
So if the 1070 is roughly on par with a 980, that would be pretty poor. Because if Pascal is 2x Maxwell in gaming, then a 1060 ought to be able to match a 980, no?
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Isn't Pascal supposed to be 50-100% better than current gen? If so, that'd put a 970 (1070, whatever) right next to a 980Ti.
Although I can't see them putting the mid-high end card on par with the star of the show from the last generation. - But I guess the 970 was considered high end before the Titan X/980Ti showed up?
If the rumoured specs are to believed I think it will.
It 100% depends on how much extra performance they want to give us. Pascal might be 2x maxwell, but that doesn't mean they will want the 10xx series to be a massive jump from Maxwell. In other words, they might hold some performance back.
They could even promote the GP106 chip into the 1070 product.
Well a 970 (small maxwell) matched a 780 ( a big Kepler ) and that was on the same process. I am pretty confident that a lot of the high end pascal range will match or beat a 980ti. Big pascal will be a huge jump i reckon.
Or to put it another way (seen as god knows what the naming scheme will be for the cards) we will have a ~£300 card that matches/beats the 980Ti.
Or to put it another way (seen as god knows what the naming scheme will be for the cards) we will have a ~£300 card that matches/beats the 980Ti.
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Yeah I would expect the X70 '970', '£300' level card to compete with the 980 Ti especially when overclocked. and the X80 / X80 Ti (980 and 980 Ti replacements) to offer much higher levels of performance than their predecessors.
We have die shrink, new architecture or at least revised architecture and HBM 2.0. This will be a nice jump in performance for sure. A much needed shakeup.
Soldato
If the rumours are true then I'm kind of regretting getting the 980 Ti I got a few days ago even though we have roughly 8 months to go 
If the rumours are true then I'm kind of regretting getting the 980 Ti I got a few days ago even though we have roughly 8 months to go
6 months!
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If the rumours are true then I'm kind of regretting getting the 980 Ti I got a few days ago even though we have roughly 8 months to go
Why? It's gonna hold a decent value and you still get 6-12 months of use out of it.
If you're going to look at it that way, why buy anything tech related?
Soldato
Well IF we're going by the previous launch window then it will be may to June for the X80 Ti version which is what I'm looking forward to but probably march for the new Titan
Why? It's gonna hold a decent value and you still get 6-12 months of use out of it.
If you're going to look at it that way, why buy anything tech related?
True, I just wish GPU's now had a little longer shelf life
It easily beat a 780 from Day 1. Was basically on par with a Titan. With driver improvements to the GM204 group, it now beats the 780Ti more often than not.
But Maxwell was also a pretty huge architectural leap, which Pascal wont be. Its main leap will be the node process, plus HBM2. There will definitely be architectural improvements, but probably not on the same scale as before.
Either way, I'd be downright disappointed if the Pascal x70 equivalent did not beat a 980Ti on Day 1, especially at higher resolutions.
The first Pascal card (unless it is a 750 style tester) will be the fastest single GPU card NVidia have made.
That is unless anyone really thinks this marketing plan might work. "here's a our new spangley 16nm Pascal card with HBM, isn't it super, oh yes so small and shiny and not as fast as the currant cards."
I can't see it somehow.
That is unless anyone really thinks this marketing plan might work. "here's a our new spangley 16nm Pascal card with HBM, isn't it super, oh yes so small and shiny and not as fast as the currant cards."
I can't see it somehow.
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Soldato
I just hope we still get big cards like the Classified, Lightning etc...Yes smaller cards with this new node will offer better performance but the size of the cards like the Lightning, Classified, HOF etc...look awesome and small things like the Fury X while good cards just don't hold the same "Ooooh I love the looks" for me personally.