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** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **

I expect the below on release date, reference available at the higher price and preorders available for custom designs at varied prices depending on brand. Similar to the 980Ti release.

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Odd how in those pictures the overclocked editions are all more expensive than the reference one, as has always been the case.

Only recently when people were obsessed with getting a nearly unavailable reference 980ti because Nvidia stopped making them did they command a slight premium. As standard for 15 years overclocked versions of a card with 3rd party coolers, as with the 980ti at launch, cost more, always have and always will. The exception will be when a low availability product randomly finds demand and stores price gouge them.
 
i think its diff for 980ti vs 1080

980ti cooler can be copy/pasted from 980.

1080 most likely can not. (different hole placement gpu size etc)

i think it will take longer :)
 
A 980 was not good enough for 1440p/60fps, no. Not because of bandwidth, but again, because of horsepower. A 980Ti is only *just* good enough for 1440p/60fps and that still involves lowering settings in plenty of games. So of course anything less wont be.

And I didn't say anything about better memory bandwidth not being good for higher resolutions. But I think it's important to note that these bandwidth bottlenecks only *really* start to pop up when you get into really high resolutions like 4k. I think it's very easy to forget that 1440p is only 1.7x as many pixels as 1080p, while 2160p is a full 4.0x!!!! 4k has become such a household name around here, but I dont think people are quite appreciating the sort of leap it is. 1440p->2160p is a greater leap in resolution than we've ever, ever seen by far. And from 1080p, it's the freakin Grand Canyon.

What holds GP204 back at 1440p is definitely not memory bandwidth. I'm not saying it plays no part at all, but it's not going to be a notable bottleneck.

The 980ti would not be as fast with a 256bit bus though, when I said 1440p or higher I meant 2560x1400 or 3440x1440, 4k is a silly resolution for any card including the 1080 and probably 1080Ti as well. A very obvious way of measuring this will be the 1080 vs 1070 where one has GDDR5 and one has GDDR5x, other than that they will be similar. But I don't know why they are putting all this effort into GDDR5x and HBM if memory is not something that needs to be improved, or why bother giving the 980ti a 384bit memory bus if it is not necessary? I think it does make a difference, because if the 1080 was released as a GDDR5 card with 256bit bus, and not a GDDR5x like it is... it would not be as fast and I would not be very interested in it.
 
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i think its diff for 980ti vs 1080

980ti cooler can be copy/pasted from 980.

1080 most likely can not. (different hole placement gpu size etc)

i think it will take longer :)

They have probably had boards to work on for a few months or something already, hopefully not too long.
 
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Probably controversial opinion but I've always thought the only reason companies made third party coolers was because they were cheaper and they could save money.
 
The 980ti would not be as fast with a 256bit bus though, when I said 1440p or higher I meant 2560x1400 or 3440x1440, 4k is a silly resolution for any card including the 1080 and probably 1080Ti as well. A very obvious way of measuring this will be the 1080 vs 1070 where one has GDDR5 and one has GDDR5x, other than that they will be similar. But I don't know why they are putting all this effort into GDDR5x and HBM if memory is not something that needs to be improved, or why bother giving the 980ti a 384bit memory bus if it is not necessary? I think it does make a difference, because if the 1080 was released as a GDDR5 card with 256bit bus, and not a GDDR5x like it is... it would not be as fast and I would not be very interested in it.
1080 is going to be faster for more reasons than just GDDR5X.

And again, I'm not saying better memory bandwidth isn't useful. Just that at 1080p and 1440p, 256-bit bus shouldn't become a significant bottleneck(a big issue, in other words).

I think a more useful comparison will be looking at the 1070 vs 980Ti and seeing how they do at different resolutions.
 
Probably controversial opinion but I've always thought the only reason companies made third party coolers was because they were cheaper and they could save money.

Its not controversial, its correct
Prices often end up based on what the manufacturer views their position in the market, rather than directly related to cost to produce

Also, i dont know if people remeber the reference 670, the cooler was garbage (but i bought them intending to water cool anyway and was able to match gigabyte windforce overclocks)

Ive still got some core only blocks so if the cheaper cards are available on launch day I'll get them again this time
 
I'm sure this has already been asked before guys, but is it worth upgrading my 980ti SLI set up to 1080 SLI or waiting for the 1080ti's that will inevitably be here within the next year?

Thanks.
 
Is a gtx1080 too much overkill for 1080p 144hz

I know a 1070 will do but I'm thinking a little future here
 
1080 is going to be faster for more reasons than just GDDR5X.

And again, I'm not saying better memory bandwidth isn't useful. Just that at 1080p and 1440p, 256-bit bus shouldn't become a significant bottleneck(a big issue, in other words).

I think a more useful comparison will be looking at the 1070 vs 980Ti and seeing how they do at different resolutions.

But the 980ti and 1070 are different architectures so you cannot compare like 1070 vs 1080 where the only difference is a % of cuda cores and the memory.

AFAIK only difference between 1070 and 1080 will be some disabled cores and the memory.
 
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I'm sure this has already been asked before guys, but is it worth upgrading my 980ti SLI set up to 1080 SLI or waiting for the 1080ti's that will inevitably be here within the next year?

Thanks.

I was thinking the same thing, while the 1080 looks to be nice upgrade over a single 980Ti I am personally going to wait for the 1080Ti as I would consider this a direct replacement and should be a very nice performance increase over the 980Ti and probably even the 1080 looking at the 980 to 980Ti benchmarks.

Nvidia has done the 780Ti and 980Ti so I would shocked if they didn't do a 1080Ti.

If Nvidia does the 1080Ti this time around it's going to be an amazing card and should be worth the extra few months wait.
 
I was thinking the same thing, while the 1080 looks to be nice upgrade over a single 980Ti I am personally going to wait for the 1080Ti as I would consider this a direct replacement and should be a very nice performance increase over the 980Ti and probably even the 1080 looking at the 980 to 980Ti benchmarks.

Nvidia has done the 780Ti and 980Ti so I would shocked if they didn't do a 1080Ti.

If Nvidia does the 1080Ti this time around it's going to be an amazing card and should be worth the extra few months wait.

Of course nvidia will release a 1080Ti, it's just a matter of when. Could be released in 6 months, 9 months or perhaps even 1 year from now. So it all depend throw much you value having the fastest card in the interim. But the same situation will be true at the 1080ti launch, you might only be 9 months away from a 1180 that is faster.
 
I wonder how many cores will be disabled, the GP100 currently has 3500 cores, I wonder if the Titan will be the Full GP100 with 3800 cores or if it will have 3500 and the 1080ti will have somewhere between 3000-3500. Looks good obviously but I need another 30% performance now so that I can play all the games at good settings and acceptable FPS, which the 980ti cannot quite do in some newer games like GTA V and ROTR at 3440x1440. Think I will skip the 1080Ti unless it is amazingly good. Also a bit worrying that the 1080 just replaced the 980ti at the same bracket, how much will a titan and 1080ti be?! I expect that depends on how good AMD vega is and if Nvidia need to be competitive or if they easily beat it. Maybe the Vega will not even beat a 1080 who knows, but the clockspeeds on the polaris do not look anywhere near what Nvidia are getting with the 1080.
 
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