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** The Official Nvidia GeForce 'Pascal' Thread - for general gossip and discussions **

wunkley said:
In terms of pricing people need to be looking at the 980 and the 1080. The 980 could be had for £420 at launch. The 1080 is going to be c£620.

That's an increase of a third. That is monumental price creep and it sucks total balls. If it carries on this way and AMD don't offer up viable competition, then eventually you will be paying £1000 for the 'mid tier' cards at launch. ****ing bonkers.
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pretty much nailed it.
 
Toss3 said:
GTX 1080 offers a much larger performance increase over the GTX 980 Ti than the GTX 980 did over the GTX 780 Ti. It's still not good enough to justify that price though, imho, but I assume people are still going to buy them because 619£ is nothing to a lot of people.
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No... The 980 was quite a bit faster then the 780ti. The 780ti was trading with the 970
 
It seems some people are just too blinkered or stupid to realise what is going on here.

Well the joke is on you guys as there is no way on earth I'll spend £619 of my hard earned cash on a video card.

Nvidia will be laughing their asses off as they release the ti version for £700 and all you guys will be saying, ohh but it's faster than the last one, so it must cost more.
 
DM is right. The chip cost has no right being sold at 620 quid, it's a mid tier core and half as complex as a 384bit core.
 
IvanDobskey said:
It seems some people are just too blinkered or stupid to realise what is going on here.

Well the joke is on you guys as there is no way on earth I'll spend £619 of my hard earned cash on a video card.

Nvidia will be laughing their asses off as they release the ti version for £700 and all you guys will be saying, ohh but it's faster than the last one, so it must cost more.
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You think the 1080ti will 'only' be £700??? Dream on son, it will be way more than that if the 1080 pricing is anything to go by.
 
Toss3 said:
GTX 1080 offers a much larger performance increase over the GTX 980 Ti than the GTX 980 did over the GTX 780 Ti. It's still not good enough to justify that price though, imho, but I assume people are still going to buy them because 619£ is nothing to a lot of people.
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When both chips were maxed it didn't. I would say it's pretty similar. The gtx980 also came in cheaper than the gtx780 ti launch price. I can't remember what they were selling for when the gtx980 launched. This effectively mid range part is coming in above the gtx980ti launch price. It's nearly half the size chip wise in comparison. Just glad I don't buy top end these days as it's starting to get out of hand.
 
IvanDobskey said:
It seems some people are just too blinkered or stupid to realise what is going on here.

Well the joke is on you guys as there is no way on earth I'll spend £619 of my hard earned cash on a video card.

Nvidia will be laughing their asses off as they release the ti version for £700 and all you guys will be saying, ohh but it's faster than the last one, so it must cost more.
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Its beyond absurd, NV all knowing full well this is an asthmatic version of Pascal , dump it on them, they ll lap it up surely, gotta vote with your wallet on this
 
wunkley said:
You think the 1080ti will 'only' be £700??? Dream on son, it will be way more than that if the 1080 pricing is anything to go by.
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If the 1080 is £620, The 1080ti will be current Titan X prices and the new Titan will be 1200 quid.
 
wunkley said:
In terms of pricing people need to be looking at the 980 and the 1080. The 980 could be had for £420 at launch. The 1080 is going to be c£620.

That's an increase of a third. That is monumental price creep and it sucks total balls. If it carries on this way and AMD don't offer up viable competition, then eventually you will be paying £1000 for the 'mid tier' cards at launch. ****ing bonkers.
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No, the regular msrp is only 50 dollars more than the 980. I have no doubt that we will see basic custom blower style cards at around the £500 mark.

Our exchange rate just sucks at the moment and that isnt nvidia's fault to be fair.

The founders edition is stupid,yes. Just dont buy it.
 
Pr0SteR said:
Its beyond absurd, NV all knowing full well this is an asthmatic version of Pascal , dump it on them, they ll lap it up surely, gotta vote with your wallet on this
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Yep, definitely. If AMD do a good enough job with the Polaris XT and price it right, I will just get that instead of 1070. Was not going to wait for Polaris, but nvidia are taking the biscuit.

IvanDobskey said:
I think the penny may have dropped :)
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Haha ;)
 
Locky said:
DM is right. The chip cost has no right being sold at 620 quid, it's a mid tier core and half as complex as a 384bit core.
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/Awaits someone to say but its their first 16nm gpu.

:o

It will be interesting to see if £620 is the actual price or not, from the thread yesterday i think there was one site quoting this as a price and nobody else. There was also mention from hardocp that other aib cards will be available on launch day because people were ****ed at the early adopter tax. Though I'm sure that won't have much of an impact on the uk price, any reference card is a "founder edition" so they can ratchet the price up, then add the usual lines of:

"supply and demand"
"but we have stock"
"pound vs the dollar"
"the chinese guy had these loaded on his rickshaw, he crashed and we're increasing the price to pay for his medical bills"
"we feel like pumping your wallets as we know you like it because you buy them"

etc etc Same old **** every launch.
 
wunkley said:
In terms of pricing people need to be looking at the 980 and the 1080. The 980 could be had for £420 at launch. The 1080 is going to be c£620.

That's an increase of a third. That is monumental price creep and it sucks total balls. If it carries on this way and AMD don't offer up viable competition, then eventually you will be paying £1000 for the 'mid tier' cards at launch. ****ing bonkers.
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Just to point out that AMD competition has very little to do with prices. Apple has competition but still have rocket high prices, in fact Apple frequently have worse phones than Samsung in terms of performance, yet charge way more. It's because customers pay more when asked, nothing else.

If Nvidia guys give a flat no to £620 for this card.... Nvidia will drop the price to sell them completely independently of what AMD can provide. The consumer has a huge amount of the power to control if they overpay for a product or not. There is a tipping point, IE Nvidia might need to make $250 to cover costs at all and might want $400 to make a healthy profit to cover all R&D costs. Which means if they price it at $600 and no one buys they'll drop the price towards fair, but once it hits $400 it depends on what sales are. If they think they can double sales by dropping a further $50 it makes sense, if they think they will only increase sales by 20% more by dropping to $350(which would be a 33% drop in profit) then it makes no sense.

The consumer doesn't have absolute control of the cards price but they absolutely have control to put the prices down into the reasonable range of sensible profit for Nvidia simply by exercising some self control.

The problem is when people don't, it just lets Nvidia know their customers have no sense and will pay more so they'll charge more again for the next card and they'll keep raising prices until even Easyrider is like "wait, this actually doesn't make sense anymore". Companies will keep raising prices exactly up to the point the consumer doesn't let them... the consumer choses exactly where that point is, not Nvidia.
 
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